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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:19 PM
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Mark "Marshall Plan" Penn on Winning the General Election
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 12:20 PM by CorpGovActivist
When George C. Marshall announced the "Marshall Plan" to undertake an unimaginably complex operation to rebuild Europe and the global economy after World War II, he had long since earned the reputation for providing both the visionary strategic leadership and the working grasp of tactical details necessary to bring about such a transformation.

He'd also earned a reputation for piping up to his superiors.

This is a man who grabbed General Black Jack Pershing by the arm - literally - in France during World War I, and forced him to listen to a lecture about the shortcomings of Pershing's HQ operations. Pershing made him his aide-de-camp (meeker witnesses no doubt expected him to be shipped off to outer Alaska for KP duty instead).

This is a man who bucked FDR, telling him: "I am sorry, Mr. President, but I don't agree with you at all," once again astonishing meeker witnesses, who once again wrote him off as lost.

This is a man who reminded FDR of his candor when the President sought to promote him to Army Chief of Staff over dozens of other superior officers: "I have it in mind to choose you as the next Chief of Staff of the United States Army. What do you think of that?"

"Nothing, Mr. President," Marshall replied, "except to remind you that I have the habit of saying exactly what I think. And that, as you know," he added, "can often be unpleasing. Is that all right?"

Marshall recalls that Roosevelt grinned and said, "Yes." Marshall remained persistent. "Mr. President, you said yes pleasantly. But I have to remind you again that it may be unpleasant." The President continued to grin. "I know," he said.

This is a man who by all rights should have been Supreme Allied Commander - but because FDR, by his own admission, could not bear to part with Marshall's candor - his protege, Eisenhower, got the assignment instead.

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When Mark Penn says he has 360 Electoral College votes in the bag, we should all judge his candor against that of George C. Marshall.

And when Senator Clinton says she can't function without him, we should all ask ourselves whether FDR would agree.

- Dave
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:29 PM
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1. I'm still disgusted that Penn is the marketer of choice of fascists and their corporate interests.
It's all about selling the worst thing for people and democracy but getting them to buy it anyway.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:46 PM
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3. Weak Chess Players Freak When They Lose Their Queen...
... and Mark Penn's most effective marketing job is that of marketing *himself* as a "queen" on the campaign chessboard.

- Dave
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:49 PM
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4. Gotcha.
Thanks.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:43 PM
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2. I'm completely torn here..
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 12:43 PM by Virginia Dare
part of me says there's no place for slimy bastards like this in our party. Then another part of me says if this asshole can find a way to beat down the right wing smear machine, then I'm willing to sell my party soul to get it done...What can I say, I'm human and I am flawed.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:53 PM
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5. There are effective 'marketers' who aren't depraved. But I understand your POV
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 12:54 PM by cryingshame
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:15 PM
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11. Claiming to Have 360 Electoral Votes...
... isn't effective marketing, even.

; )

- Dave
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:54 PM
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6. Should a Dem candidate have a Chief Strategist who protects Union Busting? Blackwater?
Union Carbide? Aqua Dots? WE SHOULD DO BETTER!

Isn't it Time for Mark Penn to Leave Burson-Marsteller?
Posted November 12, 2007 | 11:18 AM (EST)


My colleague at The Nation, Ari Berman, has done more than any journalist to shine some light on how pollster-strategist Mark Penn, head honcho at PR giant Burson-Marsteller, and perhaps the most important figure in Hillary Clinton's campaign, poses a real dilemma for the candidate. Penn heads a firm that has represented everyone from union busters to big tobacco, and more recently Blackwater. (According to a Marsteller spokesperson, it was a subsidiary, BKSH & Associates, run by GOP operative Charlie Black, which helped Erik Prince prepare for congressional hearings after his employees killed civilians in Iraq).It would seem difficult to find a more controversial client than Blackwater but Penn's firm has just been retained by Spin Master.

Who is Spin Master? It turns out that Spin Master distributes Aqua Dots, a toy that was recalled last week because it contains a glue ingredient that when ingested is broken down by the body to make GHB, the "date rape" drug, which can cause unconsciousness and even death. (The Consumer Product Safety Commission says the number of children sickened by Aqua Dots has risen from two to nine in the past week.)

Penn has repeatedly stated that he has no direct contact with controversial clients like Blackwater or unionbusters. But what about the good old-fashioned American principles of responsibility and accountability -- principles which his candidate likes to invoke on the campaign trail? As Ari Berman has pointed out, the dilemma for Clinton is that Penn's firm represents many of the interests whose influence she has vowed to curtail. But as kids get sick from poisonous toys, how can Clinton keep in her corner, as her chief strategist, a man who has even limited involvement with a firm like Burson-Marsteller? Isn't it time that Clinton ask Penn to choose: my campaign to make this a safer country or a PR firm which has too many clients undermining that agenda?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/katrina-vanden-heuvel/isnt-it-time-for-mark-pe_b_72206.html

"In '06, with Penn at the helm, the company gave 57% of Campaign Contrib to GOP"



Polling Czar



After the 1994 election, Democrats had just lost both houses of Congress, and President Clinton was floundering in the polls. At the urging of his wife, he turned to Dick Morris, a friend from their time in Arkansas. Morris brought in two pollsters from New York, Doug Schoen and his partner, Mark Penn, a portly, combative workaholic. Morris decided what to poll and Penn polled it. They immediately pushed Clinton to the right, enacting the now-infamous strategy of "triangulation," which co-opted Republican policies like welfare reform and tax cuts and emphasized small-bore issues that supposedly cut across the ideological divide. "They were the ones who said, 'Make the '96 election about nothing except V-chips and school uniforms,'" says a former adviser to Bill. When Morris got caught with a call girl, Penn became the most important adviser in Clinton's second term. "In a White House where polling is virtually a religion," the Washington Post reported in 1996, "Penn is the high priest."

Penn, who had previously worked in the business world for companies like Texaco and Eli Lilly, brought his corporate ideology to the White House. After moving to Washington he aggressively expanded his polling firm, Penn, Schoen & Berland (PSB). It was said that Penn was the only person who could get Bill Clinton and Bill Gates on the same line. Penn's largest client was Microsoft, and he saw no contradiction between working for both the plaintiff and the defense in what was at the time the country's largest antitrust case. A variety of controversial clients enlisted PSB. The firm defended Procter & Gamble's Olestra from charges that the food additive caused anal leakage, blamed Texaco's bankruptcy on greedy jurors and market-tested genetically modified foods for Monsanto. PSB introduced to consulting the concept of "inoculation": shielding corporations from scandal through clever advertising and marketing.

In 2000 Penn became the chief architect of Hillary's Senate victory in New York, persuading her, in a rerun of '96, to eschew big themes and relentlessly focus on poll-tested pothole politics, such as suburban transit lines and dairy farming upstate. Following that election, Penn became a very rich man--and an even more valued commodity in the business world (Hillary paid him $1 million for her re-election campaign in '06 and $277,000 in the first quarter of this year). The massive PR empire WPP Group acquired Penn's polling firm for an undisclosed sum in 2001 and four years later named him worldwide CEO of one of its most prized properties, the PR firm Burson-Marsteller (B-M). A key player in the decision to hire Penn was Howard Paster, President Clinton's chief lobbyist to Capitol Hill and an influential presence inside WPP. "Clients of stature come to Mark constantly for counsel," says Paster, who informally advises Hillary, explaining the hire. The press release announcing Penn's promotion noted his work "developing and implementing deregulation informational programs for the electric utilities industry and in the financial services sector." The release blithely ignored how utility deregulation contributed to the California electricity crisis manipulated by Enron and the blackout of 2003, which darkened much of the Northeast and upper Midwest.

Burson-Marsteller is hardly a natural fit for a prominent Democrat. The firm has represented everyone from the Argentine military junta to Union Carbide after the 1984 Bhopal disaster in India, in which thousands were killed when toxic fumes were released by one of its plants, to Royal Dutch Shell, which has been accused of colluding with the Nigerian government in committing major human rights violations. B-M pioneered the use of pseudo-grassroots front groups, known as "astroturfing," to wage stealth corporate attacks against environmental and consumer groups. It set up the National Smokers Alliance on behalf of Philip Morris to fight tobacco regulation in the early 1990s. Its current clients include major players in the finance, pharmaceutical and energy industries. In 2006, with Penn at the helm, the company gave 57 percent of its campaign contributions to Republican candidates.

-snip
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070604/berman
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:31 PM
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10. Wag the Dog and Thank You for Smoking...
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 02:32 PM by CorpGovActivist
... all rolled into one real-life guy.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:58 PM
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7. Karl Rove to Mark Penn: "Luke, I *am* Your Father"
; )

- Dave
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:12 PM
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15. ROFL ... So True.....
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 07:30 PM
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12. Gore and Kerry both beat them and RNC had to steal those elections for Bush
and the DNC let them do it.

All the Dem PARTY needed in 2000 and 2004 was a secure ELECTION PROCESS. Giving credit to the smears accepts that the rampant election fraud was not a factor.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 07:41 PM
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13. The smearing made it close..
thus making it possible to steal. I saw a recent Rove appearance where he denied A)involvement in the push-polling of McCain in South Carolina and B) that it was a factor at all in the primaries there. If Rove denies it, then the opposite must be true..
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 07:58 PM
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14. I doubt it. Kerry likely won by 5million votes - they would steal whatever number
they had to whether it is 1 million, 5 million or 10 million.

Face it - in a free country there is no way that 5million more votes makes it 'close' - that's more spin set up to blame the Dem candidate instead of the REAL culprits who didn't do THEIR job.

If either election process was secured with diligence Gore or Kerry would be in the WH today.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:33 PM
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16. I too am torn.
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 08:49 PM by mzmolly
And after reading the article, even more so.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:07 PM
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8. he`s hillary`s karl rove
nothing ever changes in washington but the names on the doors
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:59 PM
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9. Maybe Mary Matalin...
... but he's no Karl Rove.

- Dave
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:49 PM
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17. Maybe a Mary Matalin self-promoting
as a Karl Rove?

Scum masquerading as slime?
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