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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 10:37 PM Original message |
Please sign this petition and don't shop at Penney's |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. I Refuse To Sign Or Boycott |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. The Independence, MO police dept has a long history of racial profiling |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. That's twice you've mentioned Penney's "history" |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. That particular store, yes |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
47. This isn't a Penneys problem. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
80. And yet the power of the boycott... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
82. An African American woman here sued Dillards when they falsely accused her |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. If that is correct, |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
27. This horrific incident was well publicized |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. For years? When did this happen? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
84. I've been boycottting them years before this incident n/t |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. oh. I was confused - thinking maybe this incident had happened a long time ago and I just never |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #27 |
96. i never heard about it...when did it happen? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. I hope the woman plans on suing the police department. Their behavior |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. She was sitting in her car waiting for her sister who was in the store. |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. question....... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
83. This is one incident at one store |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. I never shop there anyway... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Thanks Goddess! |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. The police apologized. Penneys also released a statement. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Thanks for the update. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. It is an incorrect update |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. No the police dept did NOT apologize |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. at this point they cannot apologize further |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. She waited three months before she filed the lawsuit |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
11. Unless something like this has happened to you you have no idea how traumatic it is. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. the police are always wrong |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. In this case, they were indeed in the wrong. |
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Feron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. As the saying goes, there are three sides to every story: |
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dmr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Word of mouth (or online petitions) can be the best or worse |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. The story has been covered by CNN, ABC and MSNBC |
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givemebackmycountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
13. Front Page for this...Great Post. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Thanks! |
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951-Riverside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
14. Cops seem to be extra rough with pregnant black gals |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
15. What the hell is the matter with people. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. I don't know |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. We are involved in the most retrograde moment in this nation |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
16. Penneys? I never step foot in that store regardless n/t |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
19. it's a deal |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
29. This thread is totally fucking stupid. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. So Penneys is not responsible for the actions of its employees? |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. No, companies are not responsible for the actions of its employees. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. The employee lied |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. That still has nothing to do with JC Penny's |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Did you even read the OP? |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You'd only lose your job because you committed a crime. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. So, are you defending racial profiling, lying to police officers |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. No, No, and Yes. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Their employee is acting as an agent of the company. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. "Their employee is acting as an agent of the company." You don't know that. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. The two categories aren't mutually exclusive. n/t |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Nor is it proof of a company wide policy of racial profiling. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. The claim doesn't have to be company wide. This individual |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. But the boycott petitioners (all 209 of them) IS company-wide. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Yes, because "the stupid one" can only be held to account |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. You don't know that. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Which brings us back to proof. |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Stop making sense, you're interfering with the Jihad against Corporate Evil. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Psst: don't tell anyone. I'm the President of J C Penney |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. As far as I know, if he was clocked in, he is their agent. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Do you not understand that anyone under the employ of a company |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. I'm not trying to let a company off the hook. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. There is a lot of legal precedent |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Civilly, you can sue anyone for anything, so that means nothing to me. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. You don't know that. |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Yet the OP wants to boycott the entire chain of stores over this. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. The OP rightfully identified policy as the source of this violation |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. The OP does NOT indicate that Penny's Policy is responsible for this incident. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Sure it does: |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. That does not reveal Penny's POLICY. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I don't think I can help you. |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Sorry, not buying your bullshit. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. On the contrary, it's up to you to prove that this employee |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. What?? |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. There you go making sense again ! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
85. I gather that if your food was spit on, |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. You just contradicted yourself. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. I will type very slowly so maybe you will get it this time. |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Pennys did hold their employee accountable. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 07:45 AM Response to Reply #94 |
101. They reprimanded this employee?? |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #101 |
111. Of course they reprimanded the employee. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
88. But WINNING a lawsuit sets a legal precedent. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
93. It's called Respondeat Superior. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 07:56 AM Response to Reply #93 |
103. Thank you for pirching in with an expert opinion |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. I had a similar experience. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
86. My husband was rammed by a car that ran a red light |
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drbtg1 (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
61. "store security tape"? |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Good catch. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
81. And they obviously didn't doctor it to make themselves look innocent. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Good. Thank you for letting us know both the depth of your social |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
76. There's a lot of truth in that. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
97. 100% in agreement. |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:10 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Me, too. :) |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 08:06 AM Response to Reply #100 |
104. He gave her tag number to the cops |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. I understand that.. What I meant was... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:22 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Could be |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #108 |
112. No, to you, that silence indicates guilt without the need for a trial. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Hello??? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
40. My son and two friends were hassled by security at Penneys |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Most Americans are in deep denial about how often these things happen. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. There was a Black lady here accused of shoplifting at Dillard's |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
59. I am agape at how far people will go to defend violations |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. It's not a matter of defending violations of civil rights. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. And I am going to argue with you about that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
92. Thank you for regaling us with your powers of persuasion. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
95. Bump! I signed |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
98. If I boycotted every store because of one dumbfuck employee, I'd never buy anything. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 07:52 AM Response to Reply #98 |
102. You took the words right out of my mouth. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #102 |
109. Thanks for kicking the thread! |
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Reno.Muse (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
99. another embarassing moment in America's hypocritical life |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
105. Signed, K&R |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. and I'll just add one thing... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Thanks Neecy; since you are from the area your support means a lot |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #110 |
113. oh, I'm with you all the way |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. A girl my son has been friends with since high school |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. what a horrible story |
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