Study: Feminists are better mates

[donsu]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-feminism_17nov17,0,2903459.story?coll=chi_tab01_layout


Supporters of equality for women also have stronger relationships, new research says


Take a feminist out to dinner.

That's the advice of a social psychologist who concludes in a new study that feminists make better partners and have stronger romantic relationships.

Laurie Rudman of Rutgers University had found in earlier research that negative stereotypes of feminists--that they're unattractive, man-hating lesbians, in a nutshell--cause young adults to distance themselves from the "F-word" and tone down their demands for equality. A majority of college-age respondents agreed with such statements as "Most men would probably not want to date a feminist" and "Romance depends, in part, on men being allowed to be in charge."

This was alarming to Rudman, who is old enough to remember the heyday of the women's rights movement in the 1970s. Continued efforts to achieve gender equality could be seriously hurt, she reasoned, if women (and men) think it comes at the expense of love.

So, with the help of graduate student Julie Phelan, she set about trying to determine if there was any truth to the notion that feminists are more likely than traditional women to have crummy relationships.

The results, appearing in the online edition of the peer-reviewed journal Sex Roles, show that for both women and men there was a benefit to having a feminist partner. Feminist women were also more likely than others to be in a romantic relationship.

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"Contrary to popular beliefs, feminism does not disrupt men's pleasure in the bedroom," said Rudman.

That makes perfect sense to counselors like Gina Ogden, who says "the cultural missionary position--man on top" isn't conducive to romance.
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[Deep13]

1. Naturally, women are better partners than servile dolts. n/t

[aikoaiko]

2. "the cultural missionary position--man on top" isn't conducive to romance. wtf?

I must not be understanding that correctly.

[donsu]

3. well, it can be boring

nt

[aikoaiko]

7. yeah, but thats a long way from saying that position is not conducive to romance.

I'm glad to see feminists coming out on top. wink wink.

[seabeyond]

4. men may say, but... in texas, surprisingly men love my forthrightness

and are really really attracted to the confidence and being outspoken. they may say one thing, but their reality is different.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

5. "Contrary to popular beliefs, feminism does not disrupt men's pleasure in the bedroom,"

Well thank goodness for that! :eyes:

[TahitiNut]

6. Maybe that makes sense. Maybe my marriage failed because she wasn't a feminist ....

... and I am. :shrug:

Isn't in interesting that the article seems to presume that only women are feminists? (Fucking nonsense.)

[mrreowwr_kittty]

8. I've yet to meet a 'man hating' woman who was a feminist

Every one I've ever known was a so-called traditional woman.

[TahitiNut]

9. While I don't know about "traditional,' I agree it's NOT about hating anyone.

Sadly, there ARE some who attempt to strut under the banner of 'feminism' who seem consumed with antipathy.

[seabeyond]

11. that is cute and tahiti i love your point. excellent. n/t

[Alenne]

12. No it doesn't

"If you're a woman paired with a male feminist," said Rudman, "you have a healthier relationship across the board"--better in terms of relationship quality, equality, stability and sexual satisfaction.

The quote comes from the article.

[TahitiNut]

17. Yes, there are 2 quotes from Rudman about male feminists ...

... (a 'qualified' feminism) but the rest of the article focuses on feminism as though it's exclusively (or at least predominantly) females.

For example, Rudman also says "If you're a feminist, men are slightly more likely to want to be in a relationship with you."

Well, not to imply there's anything wrong with being gay, bu I'm just not interested in men wanting to have a relationship (of the kind I infer) with me. Furthermore, I'd guess that most lesbians would agree with my perspective. (I don't assume that lesbians are necessarily feminists. Mary Cheney comes to mind.)

So, as I read through it, the 2 Rudman remarks seemed to be "exceptions that proved the rule" since 'feminism' required qualification each time the meaning accommodated males. When taken in context, without qualification, the implication is most frequently female and rarely gender-neutral. (Just sayin'.)

[donsu]

21. but the study is not about gay women, it's about male relationships

with feminist women

[TahitiNut]

22. Q.E.D.

:shrug:

[EFerrari]

16. The composition of this article is kind of funny.

Especially the part about reassuring feminists that they're not screwing things up for men. lol

[TahitiNut]

18. Yes, indeed. That's a strange remark in many ways, but ESPECIALLY ...

... in how dissonant it is with stereotypical feminism. It causes me to suspect that perhaps Rudman was being more deeply ironic in that remark than the reporter was able to comprehend.

[devilgrrl]

10. We give better back rubs...

:-)

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

13. I could have told you that.

On the other hand, I've found that feminists really like the man-on-top thing. Your mileage may vary.

[MedleyMisty]

14. Umm - duh?

God, I wish people would just hurry up and get over the whole stupid gender role and inequality and submission shit. It belongs in the Dark Ages.

[TahitiNut]

19. Well, I disagree.

I don't think it "belonged" even then. I don't think there's any time that's right for such exploitation. It was wrong then, too.

[Lorien]

15. This is sad:

"Not surprisingly, feminism scores among the subjects were tepid. The mean for women in the college group was 6.2 on a 10-point scale, and the mean for men was only 4.9. (The men's average score was slightly higher in the older, online group.)
"

So even college aged women have a tough time dealing with the radical notion that they are human beings who deserve equal rights? Maybe they are satisfied with earning sixty cents on that dollar their male colleague is making? :crazy:

[donsu]

20. family kool aide doing it's best to keep women in their 'place'

feminists say a woman's 'place' is in the House, Senate, Judiciary, Supreme Court, and White House

among other 'places'.

[Inkyfuzzbottom]

23. From personal experience...

my opinion on this is, men grow to appreciate feminism as they get older. I've always been one of those self sufficient female types. When I was younger men my own age seemed afraid of me. Men my age wanted some little thing they could "take care of" (translation: tell what to do and boss around) Older men adored me. I spent 12 years with a man 11 years my senior. We never married or had children. I like to be in charge and in control and older men didn't seem threatened by that. In fact, they seemed to like it. When I hit forty the older guy and I split and I was back to dating. Now the men my own age were all over me. The single ones had already had at least one helpless, clingy, pain in the ass type woman who wanted to "be taken care of" and they had grown to hate that. The thought of a woman who was their equal and would knock their dick in the dirt if necessary seemed to excite them. Suddenly I was in great demand and able to have my pick of a large pool of available men. Men get better, and smarter with age. I am a feminist but I have ALWAYS loved men. Men ROCK!

[wuushew]

24. kick

:kick: