One of the best lines of the debate tonight was by Edwards.

[mmonk]

"We will not change this country if we replace a crowd of corporate republicans with corporate democrats." He used the fact that when we last had the presidency, House and Senate, healthcare reform didn't pass but NAFTA did.

[Ravy]

1. That moved him up a bit in my book. nt

[Plucketeer]

60. Ya can't....

.... move him up in MY book! That's cause he's already at the top of the page and on both covers as well. Godless tho I might be, I "pray" that he takes the oath of office on Jan. 20th, 2009! I pray that Jonh will no longer let corporate interests prey on what used to be OUR country. :kick:

[greenbriar]

2. count me as firmly in the Edwards camp

yup

[aquart]

3. That's my boy!

[AuntPatsy]

4. A good point and one that should be highlighted.

I was a bit dissapointed that other issues of importance to me were not addressed but I understand the time was not all that much.

There are still many months to go, I eagerly await the next debate but I wish John Stewart or someone of that caliber would be the one to ask questions.

I don't think some realize just how smart and up to date that man is in regards to politics, I might not always like when he bashes dems but he knows his business and if given the change I think he would shine and our issues would get air time.

[Cha]

5. I bet cnn wanted to

zoom right past that statement from Edwards.

[bvar22]

6. Yes.

Irrefutable.

I also liked it when Obama nailed Hillary on the Middle Class NOT being the top 6%.
Hillary had daggers in her eyes when Obama confronted her on that lirrle fact.


Hillary would rather PLANT questions than answer them!

[tblue37]

58. I didn't see the debate.

Please explain this reference. It looks interesting & important.

[bvar22]

69. This comment concerned the raising of the SS cap.

The cap is currently at $97,500/year.
Earnings above 97,500 are not taxxed (for SS).

Hillary said that she opposed raising (or eliminating) the cap on SS because that would be "solving the SS crisis on the backs of the Middle Class"!!!!!

Obama jumped in to inform Hillary that only 6% of the US earn more than 97,500/year, and that could hardley be called the middle class.

[truedelphi]

67. And thenshe made it about "Firefighters" and about

"School Administrators"

It's true - firefighters work overtime and by risking their DAMN lives too many times in a weird summer of firestorms, manage to make 100K. Or more.

And School Administrators do too.

So move the talking points up another 40K to people who make 137K.

The fact of the matter is Hillary has already been in meetings to plan out jettisoning Social Security.

BTW those who are more affluent are more likely to live longer -with probbly the exception of people like Firefighters. THe poorer people who have no health care are less likely to ever collect Social Security.

[defendandprotect]

88. Interesting info --- Hillary has already been in meetings to plan out jettisoning Social Security..

Is there any more on that to tell?

[truedelphi]

94. There was an entire DU discussion on it with all the details

An OP that was about three pages long and received a lot of attention at the time.
(I'll try google to see if I can find it)

She wants it privatized like her Wall Street buddies insist it should be.

[defendandprotect]

95. No -- I'll try to look for it --- Obviously, I missed it!! Thanks -- !!!

[truedelphi]

97. Got the link - And since Hillary is so much a part of the DLC

she wants what they want - notice last night during the debate she would not directly say wihether she would continue her past good fight to keep Social Security but rambled on about curing the deficit problem.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2277660

[defendandprotect]

101. Thanks for taking the time to find it ---

Yeah -- I remember it now and skipped it because the subject really gives me a pain in my stomach ---

But I understand the Hillary connection now . . .
QUOTE ---
The DLC champions privatization of Social Security as a centerpiece of its program for the new century. Or in DLC speak, as Will Marshall, one of its founders, puts it, "using choice and competition to advance...the big social insurance programs like Social Security and Medicare." The DLC provides bipartisan support for a Bush folly that, as Senator Tom Daschle says, would turn Social Security from a guarantee into a gamble. UNQUOTE


As Roseanne Barr described it --- it would be "faith-based Social Security" . . .

The public SEEMS to understand the dangers of this --- but I'm not really sure they understand the program totally ---
The Wall Street people --- and DLC, I guess --- have been catapulting the propaganda on this for decades !!!! Imagine what it's worth to Wall St!!!!


The whole thing reminds me that George W supposedly said to Gore after the 2000 election ....
"....surprised that PEACE and a SURPLUS lost?"

Of course, I consider the entire thing criminal ---
a criminal start to six years of treason ---




PS on this . . . today Tom Hartmann commented that he thought the DLC was .... I don't know if he said slipping or fading .... ? But, with Hillary on the rise supposedly -- how can that be?
Maybe they're just laying low --- ?

[Triana]

7. I bet the corprats hate Edwards...those poor poor abused predators

:sarcasm:

[Bake]

8. That was a great line. I hope he uses it again and again.

I like John E. I didn't see the whole debate, but what I saw, JE rocked.

Bake

[Blackhatjack]

9. Edwards hit a ton of Progressive issues tonight. Compare that with HRC ...no contest.

[Evergreen Emerald]

10. more hypocritical rhetoric by Edwards...and he was soundly booed.

as he should have been. His money also comes from corporate sources.

[Blackhatjack]

12. Totally and completely false allegation regarding Edwards $ coming for corp sources. LINK????

You don't have to waste your time looking for a LINK, I'll save you the time.

HE has not taken a single donation from a corporate entity or PAC.

Take it to the bank.

Next time be careful not to lie in the presence of those who know the truth.

[Evergreen Emerald]

16. NY hedge funds

As was brought out in the last debate by Dodd and Kucinich. Edwards is hypocritical

[Blackhatjack]

17. In case you did not know it, being paid royalties earned for writing a book isn't a campaign contrib

Your logic is equivalent to saying 'if you bought a car from Ford you made a campaign contribution to them.'

Try harder. Where is the corporate money Edwards has taken. We're waiting....

[Evergreen Emerald]

20. you might want to do more research

before you continue to act like an ....oops, i better stop this sentence, I don't want to be banned.

(but it rhymes with something you put in your car to make it go).

[Blackhatjack]

22. You made the allegation. I asked for proof. You have none, because none exists. period.

You got caught lying --admit it and let's move on.

[kelligesq]

21. Nonsense. Investing your money in a fund is taking money from wall street now?

that's bulloney

taking money from wall street is when the hedge fund manager contributes 200,000 like bush got, or hillary taking contribution from Murdoch....which is a totally off the wall mind exploding thing.

[Evergreen Emerald]

23. where have you people been? This is old news!

he is taking money from hedge funds...it is a different path from the same pockets.

[Blackhatjack]

24. JUST A BIG LIE. Even his detractors have never connected Edwards to more than one hedge fund...

And that was run by an Investment Group (Fortress Investments). John Edwards had nothing to do with the running of the hedge fund itself.

What are the names of the other hedge funds you allege? Boy you just keep digging that hole deeper.

[Seabiscuit]

56. Getting hit with a DLC Hillbot's lies is like living in the twilight zone.

I feel for you.

[Blackhatjack]

25. You need to quit before you lose all credibility. Multiple Hedge Funds? LOL

My my, you are creative there. Go ahead and share with us the names of those NY hedge funds. We'll wait....

[Seabiscuit]

57. In order to lose credibility one must have some to begin with. Not applicable here.

[creeksneakers2]

70. Edwards brags he takes no money from PACs but was forced

to admit he takes money from the people the PACs represent. Half a dozen of one, six of the other, except Edwards is a phony.

[countmyvote4real]

13. It didn't sound like he was booed on my teevee. Oops (on edit)

He did get booed the second time he brought it up. I'm watching the rebroadcast because I was at work during the live show.

However, he made sense to me both times he said it.

[AntiFascist]

30. Notice that while he was getting booed....

he was also getting cheered and applauded.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

14. he got booed by the hilary crowd when he slammed her...

not when he said this. nice try though.

[Blackhatjack]

19. Yeah the Hillary BAckers booed right on cue... means nothing.

[whirlygigspin]

29. the Hillary backers in the crowed were right on queue

[LaloBorges]

44. What it means is

that if we want to get rid of the people who are "leading" today, we must stay united, we cannot trash each other because it will only lead to more of what we have had these past 6.5 years.

What I got from last night's debate is that any of the candidates for the Democratic party will do a much better job than any of the candidates in the republican party, and if it takes voting for Hillary then it shall be, I just want to make sure that I contribute with getting rid of the neocons once and for all.

[creeksneakers2]

71. There were no Hillary backers

The audience was made up of undecided voters. Genuine boos for Edwards, the holier than thou phony.

[TahitiNut]

85. That's a heaping pile of horse shit.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2293423&mesg_id=2300082

[creeksneakers2]

75. There was no Hillary crowd

That's a bogus excuse the Edwards supporters made up.

The Las Vegas Sun looks at the pool of undecided Democrats who will get to ask questions in the second half of the debate. “About 100 Nevadans will be sitting in the audience at Cox Pavilion, primed to inject state and Western issues during the second hour of the debate. They will be selected by staff at CNN, which is carrying the debate. And whom the network will tap has been something of a mystery. Advocacy groups, including AARP, the ONE anti-poverty campaign and the Culinary Union, say CNN staff asked them to recommend members of their organizations.”

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/15/467877.aspx

The ONE anti-poverty campaign is a group formed by Bono that is aiming this year to get candidates to talk more about poverty. Edwards couldn't face a more favorable crowd.

Much of the audience was also made up of union members. Edwards has been more successful courting unions than other groups.

If CNN fixed it for anybody, they fixed it for Edwards.

[TahitiNut]

86. Again .. that's a heaping pile of horse shit you're peddling.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2293423&mesg_id=2300082

[Mythsaje]

27. Right, because that whole anti-corporate, populist message is SO

good for corporate America to help spread.

:sarcasm:

[Im with Rosey]

32. Booed by the "plants"

It was so unfortunate the plants were so obvious. It would have been so much more effective had they paid more attention to the binder on crowd crib notes.

[creeksneakers2]

72. Do you have any reason, other than it fits with a lousy excuse,

to say the people who booed were Hillary plants? They said before the debate the crowd was made up of undecided voters. Edwards acted like a total ass and I'm surprised he wasn't booed much more.

[LaloBorges]

41. Very true, and so was Obama

I hope that Edwards and Obama learned from last night, they were booed because democrats understand that those kind of attacks belong in the new republican party but not in the democratic party. If they continue with their attacks it will only hurt them more.

[0007]

42. Your definition of 'soundly booed' is way off the mark could it be

because of your affinity for another?

[JDPriestly]

46. Hillary can't hold her own, so she gets her goons to boo for her.

The boos just showed how weak Hillary is. She cannot stand on the merit of her arguments. She has to get her claque to boo and intimidate her opponents for her. Shame on Hillary. She should have admonished her supporters to be respectful to others.

[JDPriestly]

45. Where in the world do you get this "information"?

Do you dream this stuff up? It is hard to respond to lies. Please stick to reality in your posts. He was booed. At least that was true. Shame on the Hillary crowd for their discourtesy. Kudos to Edwards for handling himself with so much poise. Hillary's thugs gave Edwards the chance to show just how strong and cool he is under fire. Edwards was the best person on the stage.

[Blackhatjack]

11. K & R

[OHdem10]

15. agree --great line

[kelligesq]

18. Absolutely. Best point. and Straight speak. I like Edwards. and

and he was terriffic with the young marine too.

[caligirl]

26. this is what has me so interested in him, he gets what has to be done

Remove the vote of corporations, they aren't people but they are screwing people.

[wiley]

28. Why do I really distrust Edwards?

I believe his apologies as much as when those fallen pukes renounce their "sins". They should be resigning from office.

[mmonk]

31. It's your prerogative. However, what he said needed to be said.

Much of the electorate out there thinks there is a whole lot of difference say between a corporate democrat on the issues and say even a moderate republican. Sometimes, there isn't. People need to listen to what candidates say or don't say on critical issues. The art of triangulation was crafted to cloud real answers. Edwards has apologized and said directly his vote was wrong. The others that voted for it are not so definitive. They triangulate which is a character issue.

[wiley]

102. I think he uses that apology as a shield for his lack of personal substance

I respect Clinton more for saying she voted yes on the IWR and won't apologize for it, based on what were presented as facts. She would vote differently now, that she has made clear. I have to agree that John Edwards did nothing in the Senate, nor for South Carolina. It's almost as if whatever he says belies the fact that he had the chance to say a whole lot of things while in the Senate, but he didn't. This vote for me I'm a reformed politician who has seen the light is oh so tired and not trust inspiring. His use of the word neo-con is offensive. In the last election he practically pandered to them, especially his miltary advisors. It's like he's trying to use words to bleach away his previous beliefs, but he didn't really believe them except for political expediency. Yeah, that's what I should have said in my first post.

[Pastiche423]

49. Maybe it is because

He talks the talk, but doesn't walk it?

He's a walking, talking contradiction.

He pretty much did zilch while in the Senate, well except for co-sponsoring and voting for the IWR.

[GreenArrow]

33. Geez, wasn't that what Ralph Nader was saying?

.

[Clark2008]

34. And where was he for the six years he was in the Senate?

Give me a break.

He's all rhetoric and no action.

[hfojvt]

47. so you think somebody who talks the talk but does not walk the walk

is worse than somebody, such as, say, Hillary, who not only does not walk the walk, she doesn't even talk the talk.

I prefer to hire somebody who promises to fix my house, over somebody who promises only 'fiscal responsibility' and then a bipartisan commission.

[DutchLiberal]

55. I would prefer someone who BOTH talks the talk AND walks the walk.

And his name is Dennis.

[bigwillq]

35. I liked how he answered that

and I don't think Edwards did as poorly as some here or in the media think.

[Kansas Wyatt]

36. The Media has orders from The Powers That Be...

Kill Edwards' chance of getting the nomination. Because Edwards would tell the Corporations to fuck off and he'll actually represent 'We The People.' Unlike the corporate puppet allegedly leading in the polls.

[mod mom]

37. Corporatism is one of the biggest problems facing the entire world. We need a POPULIST

to fix this problem.

[defendandprotect]

89. Royalty morphed into Corps . . . Capitalism is ridiculous "King-of-Hill System" ---

Only with FIRMLY regulated capitalism can we continue on with it ---
but there will always be the elites trying to overturn regulations ---
and buying the overturning of the regulations ---
so maybe it's better to just toss capitalism?

[RiverStone]

38. Edwards has always been a strong 3rd in my book!

Gore did not run and Dennis will not win, though my heart is with both those guys.

I think voting for John is not much of a compromise vote and I'd be thrilled if he beats Hillary in Iowa.

Yes - good line indeed!

[Divine Discontent]

39. my eyes burned when...

I saw post # 34. I wasn't signed in. Whew, I feel better now.

Anyhow, the more I read the comments of John from last night, the better I admit that he did. I go from giving him a C to a solid B. He brought up the neocons, which gets big support from me for him saying it, and now this. He had some other comments which rocked also. I hope he continues to take away from Hillary's lead!

He definitely appeared presidential last night, I thought that from the beginning of the debate. Few of them really did, he, Biden, Obama and Clinton did. The first two I really like.

[Yael]

83. Dear soul

Promise yourself -- never, NEVER surf the board without logging in. Besides, the threads read much quicker -- if you can get past people arguing with themselves. Heh.

Join me in my happy place. First round is on me. :toast:

[onehandle]

40. Don't want Hillary? John Edwards is your candidate. nt

[JDPriestly]

43. Edwards was great.

I liked Edwards statements about the poor. Boy, Blitzer really did not want to hear what Edwards said when Edwards started citing the statistics on poverty in the U.S. Bravo, Edwards -- the next president of the United States.

[Major Hogwash]

48. Wake up and smell the corporate backlash, Hillary! You're finished!

Your dreams of conquest are over!

Go back to New York and do your job!

[redqueen]

50. That's an excellent observation.

Glad he said it. :)

[mmonk]

51. Thanks.

I was awake through the whole thing.;-)

[redqueen]

53. Oops!

Sorry... I meant the observation Edwards made. :D

:hi:

[mmonk]

62. Ooops

My bad. And you are correct.:hi:

[DutchLiberal]

52. Ironically, that line is not a recommendation to vote for him.

[Lindsey]

54. That was a great point- n/t

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

59. I sure hope edwards can get some traction..

He is the only one (of the big 3) who really gets what its like to be poor... Great and wise line at the debate..

[katty]

61. Amen to that, brotha! a perfect summation by John Edwards,Esq

[bongbong]

63. Me Too

I'm getting more and more taken with Edwards.

He can appeal to the cross-over voters who have lingering or subconscious anti-woman and/or anti-black attitudes too deep to fix.

I am getting more and more anti-Hillary. I read a lot of conservative blogs, and the hatred and loathing is VISCERAL. The anti-American republicans hate her guts far, far more than anything else in their pathetic fairyland lives. Obviously it is due to to a combo of anti-Bill and anti-woman brainlessness, but that doesn't help electoral prospects.

Obama seems more tentative to me in the later debates. I think a lot of the People Who Run Things are having little talks with him now, to make sure he understands which way the wind blows. Maybe Edwards is a bit more immune to these things (as long as he wears a parachute when flying, anyway)

It would be nicest to get Kucinich, but if he showed ANY chance of winning, we would suddenly have a deluge of hatred for him from the wingnuts.

[jmatthan]

64. The best line was however by Kucinich

The best line was however by Kucinich when he said that, unlike others, he had read the patriot Act and that was why he had voted against it.

The rest on the stage were struck dumb by this!

[parkerll]

65. Yep, best line.

Yep, I agree. "That's because I read it."

Did Edwards vote for the Patriot Act?

[iamthebandfanman]

66. yup, thats the line

that was best.

[Oldenuff]

76. Patriot Act question

I'll answer your question by saying this:

There are only 3 candidates who did not vote for the Patriot Act.

1.Kooch
2.Gravel
3.Paul

So,if a person feels strongly about Freedom and Constitutional Rights....who can we support?Among all the "frontrunners",not a one had the decency to call bullshit on the PA.

In spite of this fact,we still have folks running around waving the flag at Hillary...Edwards..Obama...etc.What a travesty!

[mmonk]

68. That too was good.

However, I like Edward's line because a lot of democrats are fooled sometimes that a democrat is progressive or has their interest in mind when they don't.

[defendandprotect]

91. Yes . . . he gets a ++++ for that one !!!

[creeksneakers2]

73. Edwards set himself up to be booed, to look like a phony

and come out with the big loser award from the debate.

Edwards likes to describe himself as the white knight for the public on trade, but Kucinich made Edwards look really stupid because Edwards voted for most favored nation trade status for China. Edwards got his chance to respond and tried to switch the subject to lead paint on toys. I got confused by his sneaking around it all, but I could swear he said he still likes China in the WTO.

Even the second and third tier candidates are spending some of the few minutes they get to go after Edwards, who is not a threat to win. They'll spend the few minutes though, because Edwards is pissing off just about everybody with his pious act. Nailing Edwards is a positive for any candidate.

[Andy823]

77. The way you go on about Edwards

Seems to show that you are "afraid" he may win, and you would be right! I have seen alot of Hillary's attack machine lately, all going after Edwards. Now that tells me that the Hillary camp is worried, and with due cause. I really noticed after her gaff in the prior debate on the drivers license thing, that the attacks really picked up over on DK. I have not been here long, but have seen more attacks here than over there, and that shows me that someone is worried!:scared:

Now I can see coming into a thread that is attacking your candidate, no problem with that, but to come into a thread that is simply showing the good points of another candidate, and trashing them like you have, well that shows just how much the Hillary camp fears him.

Were you one of the "booers" last night that Hillary, and CNN, had planted? ;)

[Blackhatjack]

80. I think you got his number! LOL n/t

[creeksneakers2]

81. I'm not afraid of Edwards. I hate him.

Edwards cannot win. Clinton, Obama, Dodd, Biden, Richardson, even Kucinich could win. Edwards won't win because he's acting like a pious jerk.

What I am worried about is Edwards hurting the eventual nominee. The early stages of a campaign are where candidates define themselves and are defined by the public. In Hillary's case, she's redefining herself. While the slanders and smears of Edwards won't help him, they will hurt whoever he aims at. Hillary is just his favorite target.

If Edwards cares about any of the things he pretends to care about, he should want the Democratic nominee to win.

[1932]

100. Please post this every time you post about Edwards...

...so I don't have to worry that you'll have any influence on readers' decision whether support Edwards.

[Blackhatjack]

79. I guess you live in your own little world.... divorced from reality.

Pointing out that Clinton voted for the Peru Free Trade Agreement in Washington and told the Iowa Union that she would not vote for any new free trade agreements is whats known as AN INCONSISTENCY( OR AS THEY SAY IN THE RURAL AREAS OF IOWA --'FLAT OUT LYING TO US AGAIN.'

It was exactly that which Edwards was saying --which is the truth-- that the Hillary Backer packed audience broke into boos.

So tell me how Edwards deserved to be booed for saying that? Hmmmmmmm?

You're unhooked from reality if you believe what you posted.

[creeksneakers2]

82. The audience wasn't packed for Hillary

that fiction is part of your own little world.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2007/nov/14/566667431.html

They will be selected by staff at CNN, which is carrying the debate. And whom the network will tap has been something of a mystery.

Advocacy groups, including AARP, the ONE anti-poverty campaign and the Culinary Union, say CNN staff asked them to recommend members of their organizations.

The cable network wants uncommitted Democrats who are likely to attend the caucus and were willing to submit a question in advance, said David Bohrman, CNN's Washington, D.C., bureau chief and producer of Thursday's debate.

The 100 will be picked to sit in the "red zone" - the designation by CNN staff for the seats directly in front of the stage at Cox Pavilion at UNLV. From their ranks, some will be chosen to pose their questions to candidates.

[TahitiNut]

84. It's a pity that reading comprehension isn't a skill in which you excel.

Folks with even a modicum of ability in this area can easily glean from that article, ASSUMING one believes everything reported in the corporate media, of course, that the ONLY attendees being discussed are the 100 sitting center-front and requeested to provide questions to be asked of the candidates. NO OTHER ATTENDEES are referenced in that article. NONE.

(Let's pause while you get someone to explain this post, so far, to you in words you can comprehend.)

Now, anyone with an IQ greater than a dessicated cabbage who watched and listened to the debate last night (as I did - TWICE) could CLEARLY identify a cheering section for Hillary ... from the first moment she appeared on stage and BEFORE a single question was posed! It was so blatantly obvious that the denials posted are ludicrous -- a detachment from reality that'd be at home on Fox News.

Peddle that shit somewhere else, please. You insult the intelligence of this community with such a palpable falsehood.

[PufPuf23]

74. Populism and the DLC

Home page for Democratic Leadership Council

http://www.dlc.org/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

Introduction from wiki:

The Democratic Leadership Council is a non-profit corporation <1> that argues that the United States Democratic Party should shift away from traditionally populist positions. The DLC hails President Clinton as proof of the viability of third way politicians and as a DLC success story while progressives assert that Bill Clinton won campaigning as a populist only to abandon those positions after getting elected. Critics contend that the DLC is effectively a powerful, corporate-financed mouthpiece within the Democratic party that acts to keep Democratic Party candidates and platforms sympathetic to corporate interests and the interests of the wealthiest one percent.

The DLC's affiliated think tank is the Progressive Policy Institute. Democrats who adhere to the DLC's philosophy often call themselves New Democrats. Others use this label too though and belong to other organizations and have differing agendas contesting to define that term and control the party's future.

The DLC's current chairman is former Representative Harold Ford, Jr. of Tennessee, and its vice chair is Senator Thomas R. Carper of Delaware. Its CEO is Al From and its president is Bruce Reed.

continues ....

[defendandprotect]

92. What I saw last night in the debates .. .

seemingly free to vex populist and spontaneously seeming happy to do it!!

Kucinich barely being asked any question --- and yet he did so well.

Edwards --- populist

Hillary --- sneering face, "I'm being picked on!"

Biden --- bored and ready --- is he DLC --- ah, if I could only feel I could trust him!

Dodd --- didn't see, but his work this week on the Eavedropping bill/immunity is great!!


Basically, what I'm saying is that we seem to have been seeing for more than a year . . .
the beginnings of a crack in MSM --- Olbermann allowed to go on torturing Bush, for one --

And the candidates also seem to be moving to populist ---

I think it's the money moving into the Democratic Party's hands . . .

And I hope it's moving the DLC OUT ---

[defendandprotect]

93. As a PS --- Listened to Hartmann today --- he had a telephone poll going ---

Anyone hear the results? I didn't --

But it sounded to me like about 30 phone calls?

And, 3 distinct votes for Hillary --- and I noted they were all females

LOTTSA votes for Edwards and Kucinich --- they lead in my estimation ---

1 for Gravel

Hillary seemed to lead Obama --- but both were way behind Edwards/Kucinich

Did Dodd get a vote?

Gore mentioned a few times . . . "if not Gore" then . . .

I think Biden got a vote or two?

[petersjo02]

99. Were the voters for Kucinich and Edwards

all men? It seems to be important to you which sex votes for which. Odd.

[defendandprotect]

103. Correction: My first comment should have been "Richardson ". . . seemingly free, etc.

[Blackhatjack]

78. Here's another Edwards quote speaking truth to Hillary.....

"She says she will turn up the heat on George Bush and the Republicans, but when the crucial vote came on stopping Bush, Cheney and the neocons, on Iran, she voted with Bush and Cheney."

[defendandprotect]

87. The Corporates + their GOP reps are hugely AGGRESSIVE people . . ..

EDWARDS has to be prepared for that ---

American citizens have to wake up to that --- and be prepared ----

Even if Edwards or Kucinich get elected --- they will severely attacked ---
remember Clinton --- and he was a corporate!!!

[1corona4u]

90. I use to like John...

but not any more....he's just too....phony in my book. I mean, really, I don't think for a minute that he knows how to do anything. I guess I got past his appearance, and see no depth.(and my opinion is not about Hillary, she's not my candidate.)

[roxnev]

96. John was high on my list

But last night he dropped it in the mud. I don't want another hatter in the white house.

[Froward69]

98. sad but true

Thats why I am not for Hillary or Edwards.