Who was the Loser?

[MadBadger]

I think most of them did very well, but I feel like John Edwards was the loser. Even if he made sense, I think it will be perceived that he went at her too hard especially with the boos he received from a clearly pro-Clinton crowd. And that line about throwing factual mud will be replayed many times.

[Captain Hilts]

1. Obama seemed tentative on questions he knew he'd get. nt

[Cameron27]

2. Edwards

he was too hot, too mean spirited and had to back off real quick.

[GreenArrow]

30. and he does it all with a smile

A smug, self righteous smile, but a smile nevertheless. It seldom leaves his face, no matter what he's talking about.

[Cameron27]

36. Well he certainly was smugly condescending

when he tossed off that 'cute' to Kucinich.

[GreenArrow]

41. that's his specialty

But what else could he do? He wasn't going to win that argument. And he never did give a real firm answer to the China trade vote question.

[Adelante]

44. I wanted to smack the smile off his face nt

[Cameron27]

46. I think Dennis wanted to do the same thing.

[Life Long Dem]

55. I never liked Bush's wink and a nod from day one.

Edwards smile doesn't bother me. Maybe it does the repubs.

[GreenArrow]

50. he got smacked pretty good, rhetorically anyway.

And deserved, it, I might add. His mouth might have been smiling, but the rest of him wasn't.

[daninthemoon]

3. And he had the worst makeup. But, I agree with you.

[ddeclue]

4. Hillary - she weaseled again on Iran and Social Security and flip flopped on playing the gender card

[Evergreen Emerald]

54. really? That is not what I saw.

I thought she did a great job.

[silverweb]

ReTHUGs are the losers!

Our candidates ALL did well, despite a couple of crucial differences.

[Colobo]

5. Edwards. Too aggressive.

[rwheeler31]

15. Thats Gop crap.

[whirlygigspin]

6. agreed

Edwards had a bad night, Hillary did well but for the time he was given Dennis went way up in my book tonight.

[AlCzervik]

7. the GOP, they would never survive that kind of debate.

[GP6971]

12. Who would

ever stage that kind of debate for the repugs? Not anyone we know of.

[Zookeeper]

16. Wouldn't it be lovely if they did...

so, the country would have the opportunity to see what a bunch of boneheads the Rethug candidates really are?

[kelligesq]

37. Giuliani has a very sharp tongue....although his troubles with Kerik maybe have finished him n/t

.

[BlueStater]

42. Please

Ghouliani is appallingly ignorant when it comes to issues of national security and foreign policy. And he certainly isn't going to last very long in any debate involving character.

He can still bullshit his way into winning like the Chimp did but that doesn't make him a great debater.

[Horse with no Name]

8. The American People.

Canned and planned questions. Unequal airtime.
The American people lost this one by not being able to get an accurate glimpse of ALL of the candidates.

[Strawman]

31. Ding Ding!

We have a winner

[flvegan]

9. Who? Fucking America, that's who.

We lost. They just played the game.

5 minutes, 37 seconds from the only candidate against the Iraq War, against the Patriot Act...

[lonestarnot]

19. The applause was loudest for the robbed!

;)

[rwheeler31]

10. Hillary

[Life Long Dem]

11. Edwards is a straight shooter and answers questions directly.

[GreenArrow]

33. right. He sure answered that China vote question directly.

.

[Zookeeper]

13. The MSM will do their best to turn them all into losers....

by picking at irrelevant details instead of reporting their views on the issues.

[liberalnurse]

Bush is the "All American Loser".....

Oh, in tonight's debate..........Richardson was off his game, Kucinich was subdued as was Dodd...........Edwards had no spark and Obams stumbled repeatedly.


Biden won............Clinton won with her redemption/recovery aspect. I still cringe with the Iraq War vote...like nails on the chalk board....for a Clinton Supporter/ as I am.

[GreenArrow]

14. Edwards. Too scripted, too earnestly unctuous.

Got booed, jokes fell flat.

[Cameron27]

17. earnestly unctuous

that's it, good description

[GreenArrow]

26. the best example of it was when he

climbed out of his seat, rushed out breathlessly to the edge of the stage, hands clasped together in reverence and God blessed the three-tour Vet who led off the audience participation part of the show. 'Twas a Dinner Theatre quality performance.

[TwilightGardener]

29. I was out of the room when that happened--ick.

[Cameron27]

34. Yes, yes, yes,

that little drama was embarrassing to watch.

[Mojambo]

18. Top tier - Edwards. For not dialing it back in the face of an aggressively partisan crowd.

2nd tier - Richardson. For being an oratorical train wreck.

[GreenArrow]

35. dialing it back wasn't in his script

Once he got off script, he was lost.

Richardson? Well, he does go on. And on. And on. And on... And I still think this was one of his better performances.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

20. The American People!

The Clinton/Obama debate is just like reality tv. Nothing to do with reality!

[TwilightGardener]

21. Everyone except Hillary. She cemented it tonight. That's not to say

something can't happen between now and January, but I think she had her low point and is on the way back up. The audience was on her side, too--that bodes well for her.

[rAVES]

28. Yea the hand picked crowd...

[Cameron27]

38. Oh baloney

they all had their fan club there.

[emilyg]

52. False.

[Blackhatjack]

22. Not Edwards. Hillary and Richardson did themselves no favors.

[MonkeyFunk]

23. Edwards

He failed to land any punches, and came across as a little bitch.

[TwilightGardener]

24. Ouch! Gonna need some ice on that one.

[BlueStater]

27. Ice for what? Pathetic, lame-ass name-calling?

I'm glad he's a Hillary supporter.

[monmouth]

25. Edwards more unimpressive than ever...too snarky and condescending.

[Blackhatjack]

32. Edwards hit all the Progressive issues, called out the NeoCons and corp interests...What did HRC do?

[kelligesq]

40. Yep. Edwards laid out what's wrong with America and dems who let it happen. n/t

.

[Cameron27]

43. Woo hoo

he used the NeoCon word. Like every democrat in the room never heard it before.

[bklyncowgirl]

39. I thought Edwards was weak tonight. As for the others.

Clinton was her usual well prepared--some might say too well prepared self
as she went about artfully not answering the questions. Oh never mind, CNN says she won. I must have been watching a different debate.

Biden and Dodd scored points on the issues. Did someone give Biden a drink before the debate--he was pretty funny.

Dennis Kucinich did everyone a huge service by pointing out the obvious. Naturally he will be ignored.

Obama came out swinging and never let up. He took some risks and scored some points. I like his more aggressive style.

Richardson also had some great moments tonight. For once I was not disappointed.

[HughMoran]

45. Edwards, Obama, Hillary

Edwards in last. The others I'm not counting.

[be inspired]

47. Clinton was the loser.

Edwards was telling it like it is. He gave the best clear, succinct answers.

The Clinton supporters in the audience who were so incredibly rude to Edwards and Obama made Clinton look very bad, especially since Edwards, at least, was totally right on in his criticism of her.

[Evergreen Emerald]

56. I saw the opposite

Edwards was put in his place, even the other candidates were on him, and the first time he tried to attack he was stopped by the crowd and by Wolf, who did not allow the unanswered attacks like the last debate. Clinton was allowed to stand up for herself and she did. Edwards could not handle it.

[itsrobert]

48. No clear loser here; But if you put a gun to my head: Clinton

She really didn't have clear answers. Edwards railed on the Neo-Cons, Republicans, Corportalist, and the war mongers. Good job on everybody's part.

[Clanfear]

49. I'm not going to pick the loser.

Without a doubt Biden had the best performance. Obama had a moment there for a bit over the immigrant license issue that seemed a bit uncomfortable, but after that I thought he did very well. I wasn't impressed by Clinton or Edwards tonight.

[Odin2005]

51. Hillary. All triangulating all the time, even when it came to diamonds vs. pearls

the top 6% are "middle class"? your are a frigging LIAR, Hillary.

[Evergreen Emerald]

53. I think that Edwards was the loser, with Biden the winner.

The winners:

Biden
Clinton
Kucinich
Dodd
Obama
Richardson
Edwards.


And here is why: Obama and Edwards started out attempting to continue the attacks of the last debate. They were slammed by, Clinton, the moderator (who, unlike Russert, did not allow the unchallenged slams), and the audience who was not putting up with their crap. And they, got the message, and it made them off their attack game.

Obama was exposed for the rank-ameture that he is. We saw him unable to answer questions, and doing what he accused Clinton of doing all along. When he did stand up to attack her on the 6% quesiton (and he is wrong), he was booed for his attack: and it looked bad, she standing bold and looking up at him defiantly while he tried to take her down. Visually, did not look good, and he got booed.

Edwards just stopped, and was marginalized.

Biden kicked ass.

Clinton was back on her game and held her own. She is smart and savvy and presidential.