**********OFFICIAL DEBATE THREAD #7***************

[flvegan]

Need a new thread.

6 is here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2291934&mesg_id=2291934

[crispini]

Thank you!

[Nutmegger]

1. Thanks for a new thread.

R&K

[AuntPatsy]

6. I agree with Hillary , we need common ground like it or not, we are all Americans

I am so tired of being divided

[jenmito]

14. Then we can't nominate Hillary.

[AuntPatsy]

100. if you believe that anyone either dem or repub will be liked by all america

I bet you believe that gas will return to fifty cents a gallon. Sorry but the simple truth is not one person will ever be enough to satisfy all of the citizens but we do need to satisfy a majority and I believe a dem can, any of them really

[rodeodance]

84. yes, she is right

[flyarm]

gosh edwards is hardly getting any time this section of debate. eom

[AuntPatsy]

2. Unity, a good question

[Adelante]

5. The audience seems to want it nt

[goodgd_yall]

28. I thought is was the shittiest question of the night n/t

[AuntPatsy]

80. Oh no way, there were many shitty questions, we need unity

[goodgd_yall]

93. I correct myself---diamonds or pearls was the shittiest

The disunity will continue no matter who is in office because of the success of FoxNews. It is the great perpretator of division. Plus we will still have neocons in office. The best thing this country can do is elect a Democratic majority.

[AuntPatsy]

109. considering the rut our country is in and the fact that now all are being touched

by the maliciousness of this administration, sorry, I do believe a certain unity can occur with the right president, we will always have religious leaders hating dems because of abortion and gays but the truth is religious people do get abortions have had abortions and many if not all gays are religious and though we won't get rid of hannity and company, he is not the know it all any longer to the once large majority he once had.

John stewart and company has seen to that....they might not talk about it, but the conservative base divided itself in droves

[Maven]

3. Thanks.

[flvegan]

4. TALK CLOCK HERE

[Basileus Basileon]

7. Thanks for this.

[spanone]

8. dennis' time has been marginalized, but not his message

[AuntPatsy]

15. He might have gotten the least amount of time but for all you Dennis fans

I think he did very good with the short time he has had and has come out strong and have no doubt he will end the same way.

[mmonk]

99. I guess after awhile you have to learn

how to maximize the short time.

[AuntPatsy]

111. He stood out to me, I would say he has mastered technique, take heart

[mmonk]

120. Thanks, that's good to know.

[hootinholler]

21. Except when Wolfie shouts over him.

This is so disgusting.

-Hoot

[rodeodance]

29. both of the ones i looked at have Obama ahead both times

[flvegan]

46. FINAL TALK CLOCK

[Vinca]

119. 5:37 for Kucinich? That's outrageous. nt

[Colobo]

9. Obama has had a good 2nd half.

[AuntPatsy]

10. When I get elected, Biden ;-)

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

11. And, why are the R candidates not having to do this?

MKJ

[Catchawave]

18. Thought the same thing...no war questions for them?

[AuntPatsy]

23. because it doesn't matter, guiliano has it regardless of his sins

[AuntPatsy]

40. was that girl kidding? to end such an important debate with such an idiotic question

[aquart]

79. They don't want to increase the Republican suicide rate?

[tekisui]

12. His plan for Iraq has 75 votes---Go with it NOW!!!

[Dawgs]

17. Is he talking about when he voted for the war?

:evilgrin:

[bobthedrummer]

13. Dennis Kucinich speaks for America

[fascisthunter]

27. I Really Wish Moderates WOuld Give a Liberal a Chance

Just once for America's sake.

[MzShellG]

101. Rep. Kunich faces a similar setback as Sen. Obama

People who support him are afraid to vote for him for fear that he is un-electable in the general.

[Cameron27]

16. Biden's very persuasive on this issue.

[monmouth]

19. I want a President Joseph Biden in the White House.....

[Dawgs]

24. Eh, no thanks. I like him, but not President.

[rodeodance]

20. 7 for 7

[babylonsister]

22. Thank you! I forgot; the DH got interested! Nom! nt

[wildbilln864]

25. Damn these threads......

get long too quickly, lol. :smoke:

[ddeclue]

26. Oh sit down and shut up already Richardson...

Can this guy ever give a short form answer to anything?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

117. Welcome!

:hi: MKJ

[Spiffarino]

30. Wolf won't let them talk

This time rule rules out debate. This isn't debate. This is a soundbiting session.

I hate the MSM in general and CNN in particular.

[Labors of Hercules]

31. Bill loves to count on his fingers. nt

[MadBadger]

32. Disgusting choice of question by CNN

diamonds or pearls. Fuckin bullshit

[ddeclue]

33. PLANT ALERT PLANT ALERT!!!

Plant grown at UNLV!

[crispini]

34. Ok, WTF kind of question was that? Diamonds or pearls?

Honestly. :eyes:

[goodgd_yall]

52. An MSM plant question

:mad:

[aquart]

98. Any man asked that question?

[goodgd_yall]

35. OH, god----stereotypical girly question

[Colobo]

45. That idiot was a Hillary supporter.

[AuntPatsy]

53. Well I think that is more than obvious but besides the point

[goodgd_yall]

54. I think she was a plant

[AuntPatsy]

75. changed my mind the question was a set up with a smiley seemingly innocent look

[AuntPatsy]

47. I would have given anything to ask a question, what a waste, she should be ashamed

[AlCzervik]

36. Fun question, Diamonds or pearls? thats not fun.

[many a good man]

49. Anyone who said diamonds lost my vote

blood diamonds

[AlCzervik]

60. just a really stupid question, you get a chance to ask one of them something

and thats what you do? My Gawd i her parents weren't watching.

[AuntPatsy]

69. Not it wasn't because if she would have said Diamonds the msn would

have destroyed her with the fact on how diamonds are mined, perhaps not a hillary supporter at all

[The Ghost]

37. ACH!

you always want it both ways Hillary

[Basileus Basileon]

38. OMG WORST QUESTION EVER - and Hillary refuses to answer.

[ddeclue]

50. EXCELLENT CATCH - Hillary triangulates on diamonds AND pearls.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[goodgd_yall]

62. NO---she said both

[Basileus Basileon]

"I like both" isn't an answer to "do you prefer X or Y"

[goodgd_yall]

86. OK, have it your way---always got to attack HRC, I guess

[Basileus Basileon]

95. Christ. Tonight I've been called

a Hillary plant and a Hillary basher. Can't win.

[goodgd_yall]

107. OK, man, PEACE

:*

Too stupid a question to get mad about.

[Dawgs]

39. Are you fucking kidding me?

[Blackhatjack]

41. Edwards was on his game tonight!

[Renew Deal]

48. Not really.

Started weak finished OK.

[BlueStater]

58. I agree

And I say that an Edwards supporter. Tonight was definitely not his best night.

I blame CNN somewhat for not giving enough time to talk.

[goodgd_yall]

76. He wasn't given enought time---did you look at the TALK CLOCK?

[LWolf]

118. He got significantly more time than

the candidate who is right the first time.

[goodgd_yall]

74. I think the opposite

His feisty beginning was too pugnacious and Hillary-centered. After his initial attack, he was better.

[BlueStater]

89. I realize he got booed but so did Obama (to a lesser extent I admit)

Frankly, I think it just made Hillary's supporters look childish.

[Spiffarino]

73. I thought he did fine

He was better the last time, but no damage here. Hillary was back and forth...firm on some questions, very weasely on others.

Hill's still employing the "Rose Garden" strategy. She's making a mistake.

[Renew Deal]

42. My dislike of Obama could be more blatant.

Someone asked me that in the last thread. It could be, absolutely. Only thing is that I don't dislike him and I don't care what you think about it.

[Maven]

43. Ew. I just got douche chills from that question.

[Dawgs]

44. That debate was terrible!!!

[Cameron27]

55. I thought it was good

[Dawgs]

57. Hillary WON according to CNN. Big fucking surprise!

[Cameron27]

103. She did win

and I've never said that in any other debate.

[goodgd_yall]

82. I thought it was GREAT! Lots of sparks

[flvegan]

51. FINAL TALK CLOCK

[hootinholler]

59. Disgusting! n/t

[fascisthunter]

64. Funny. Dennis Got the Most Cheers

yet had the least amount of time.

[BlueStater]

78. That isn't the final talk time

It's outdated and needs to be updated.

[flvegan]

87. Uh, no

the coding updates as the info is updated at the source site.

[BlueStater]

92. That's what it said at the beginning of the debate

Overall, while Kucinich may have gotten the least amount of time out of anyone on stage, he certainly got longer than six seconds. Give me a break.

[flvegan]

106. Yeah, um...hit the "refresh" icon.

[DesertRat]

108. It says Dennis had 5 min. 37 secs. n/t

[ddeclue]

56. Hillary crashed and burned on Iran!

Game over!

[goodgd_yall]

102. I don't know about "game over," but her answer was very unconvincing

And I think that was what the mom and son were thinking too. The mom cheered when Kucinich mentioned impeachment, so I don't think she bought HRC's answer, at all.

[Blackhatjack]

61. It's no surprise that Hillary Backers Booed both Obama and Edwards...

... they packed the hall.

[GreenArrow]

63. "Why does John Edwards, when asked a question,

not answer it and constantly use his time to attack Hillary Clinton"?

[Blackhatjack]

77. Why does HIllary NEVER answer a question?

[Cameron27]

85. Hillary DID answer her questions

Edwards can't open his mouth without attacking someone.

[Blackhatjack]

114. You need to get back on your meds....

[BlueStater]

65. JC Watts. Yuck. n/t

[rodeodance]

70. He is lazy lazy.

[rodeodance]

66. Post debate coverage: A. Cooper started the media CRAP by calling it a mudslug!!

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Post debate coverage: A. Cooper started the media CRAP by calling it a mudslug!!
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2292541#2292541
2292541, Post debate coverage: A. Cooper started the media CRAP by calling it a mudslug!!
Posted by rodeodance on Thu Nov-15-07 09:11 PM

I had sincerely hoped the media would get smart and talk issues.

[goodgd_yall]

110. Richardson and, I think another candidate, helped fuel that

He said something about throwing mud.

[rodeodance]

67. Post debate coverage: A. Cooper started the media CRAP by calling it a mudslug!!

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Post debate coverage: A. Cooper started the media CRAP by calling it a mudslug!!
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2292541#2292541
2292541, Post debate coverage: A. Cooper started the media CRAP by calling it a mudslug!!
Posted by rodeodance on Thu Nov-15-07 09:11 PM

I had sincerely hoped the media would get smart and talk issues.

[bdamomma]

68. well it's over, and Dennis did well, but he did not get the questions

or even time, terrible, the first 20 minutes of the debate was between Hillary and Obama, there are more people on the stage isn't there. Wolf is a jerk.

[Spiffarino]

81. He got a lot done in 5:37

They gave him 1/2 the average time they gave all the others. Obama got 18:09.

Ridiculous.

[AuntPatsy]

91. I agree, was very impressed with him especially since he had such a short time..

to be honest, I hadn't heard him much before, I learned more tonight and Liked what I saw and heard.

[goodgd_yall]

112. Kucinich did very well

[Blackhatjack]

71. OH MY, CNN has J.C. Watts critiquing Obama and Edwards? Sheesh. What a waste...

[babylonsister]

88. And Carville and Gergen fawning over Clinton. Looks so obvious

to me.

[bdamomma]

90. CNN is terrible, we can have our own post analysis talk here

[Spiffarino]

94. What douchebaggery.

J.C. Watts? Perhaps they will have Dennis Kucinich on hand to comment on the next Republican debate.

I'll be holding my breath...

[AuntPatsy]

115. who cares what they think? i watched it and have my own thoughts and they differ

anyone that matters should have watched it and I would hope they left with their own ideas and not allow cnn or anyone else for that matter to alter what they already know. They should have a little faith in themselves

[Zookeeper]

72. I haven't been able to bring myself to watch a Rethug debate...

yet, but I'm willing to bet that this one was a lot more exciting.

[Blackhatjack]

83. David Gergin just said Hillary had a very sympathetic audience in there...

[Basileus Basileon]

97. She did. They leapt to her defense repeatedly.

I have to wonder if that's representative of Democrats as a whole, or if this debate audience was skewed.

[Horse with no Name]

104. My guess would be the latter.

It's all smoke and mirrors anyway.

[goodgd_yall]

113. Her supporters are the noisy type n/t

[hedda_foil]

116. You've got to have pull with the party PTB to get into a debate.

Reid is the big gun in Nevada Democratic politics, and he supports Hillary. I'd expect the vast majority of the audience to be Hillary supporters too, since most of them would have to have connections to get tickets.

[Zookeeper]

96. These pundits are getting paid for doing nothing...

If you want to know anything about the damned debate just watch it, instead of listening to these morons practically analyzing body language!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

105. I am so tired of debates with a clueless corporate moderator.

Who the fuck does Leslie think he is interrupting the candidates as they answer his questions?

Imagine a moderator who asks for information and then actually listens.

I'm feeling like Diogenes, looking for that capable debate moderator.

Well, Diogenes but with less Diogenes like standards.

:-)

MKJ