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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:47 PM
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Draft Gore response to the request to end efforts re: Dem. Primary
Edited on Wed Nov-14-07 01:48 PM by JackORoses
http://www.draftgore.com/newsroom_details.asp?id=981">Draft Gore response

We commend the decision of Draft Gore California to honor Al Gore's wishes and halt its extraordinary effort to qualify Al Gore for the state primary ballot.

The decision, however, has no immediate impact on Draft Gore's activities. Our goal has been very different all along: to influence Al Gore's decision to become a candidate for President in 2008. The request from Vice President Gore's office specifically mentioned ballot efforts, not general efforts to promote a Gore candidacy.

As long as there's still time for Al Gore to enter the race and he does not give us any indication that our efforts are not welcomed, we will continue our activities.


*

And the Beat goes on.....
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:51 PM
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1. Jesus H Christ what a clueless bunch!
I guess they're free to spend their time & money however they see fit to, though...

Bless their hearts..

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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:00 PM
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3. clueless?!? Or so Clued-in that you just blew your mind?
;)
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:56 PM
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2. He isn't going to run - not this time around & I have been a Draft Gore supporter

I think he believes the country is not ready to go in the direction that he would lead. And, I trust Gore.

If this is his decision, bless him.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:50 PM
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17. is your sister stopping too?
Does she think it odd that the staffer only contacted the california group?
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:03 PM
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4. Sorry, but THAT is the sherman statement.
"We have recently received a communication from a member of Al Gore's staff discouraging any efforts to put Al Gore's name on the primary ballot,"

This is the action he took in 2002 and what has been missing this time around, until now.


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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:08 PM
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5. I guess the Draft Gore people need something to do.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:09 PM
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6. Good for them.
I can wait a bit longer. A staffer writing an email to one group in the whole process doesn't make a 'sherman statement'. More than happy to wait and see what happens next.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:11 PM
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7. That it came in an e-mail from a staffer to one group...
that seems kinda weird.

I wonder why they're handling it this way. Why won't he just say, "I will not run." or make any other sort of Sherman statement?

:shrug:
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:15 PM
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9. very weird, indeed...why would he say, "I haven't made a Sherman Statement" with a wink and a nod
Edited on Wed Nov-14-07 02:16 PM by JackORoses
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:21 PM
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10. Do you know when he said that?
For people who have already made up their minds about what's going on, I guess it doesn't matter.

I find it impossible to tell what's really going on as far as his non-candidacy candidacy.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:23 PM
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12. Sunday.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:34 PM
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15. Yup... very weird.
Odd how so many are so certain of things based on ... hunches?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:27 PM
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13. here is a link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21759787/

But when asked by the Financial Times last week, he warned: "I have not made a Sherman statement."
...
Mr Gore said: "There is no need for me to make that statement."
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:36 PM
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16. There is no need?
:spray:

That's funny! Has heard of the Draft Gore movement, I wonder. :P



I like that idea about carbon tax. Love it, actually. :)
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:22 PM
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11. He said last week that we need to trust him...
I am willing to give it a bit longer to see what happens. He is an unconventional thinker. He may have a goofy staffer who was trying to help. Or he may have another plan in mind. Or he may not be planning on running.

Having a staffer write one email to one group - doesn't make sense to me. I think there is more to this and I am willing to wait to hear it. Not much else to do at this point. My primary doesn't happen until February.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 05:28 AM
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30. That staffer could have been sabotaging Gore too. Something about this whole thing is fishy.
BTW-do you have a link to where Gore said to trust him? I'd like to read it. TIA! :hi:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 12:58 PM
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32. Actually - the staffer is purportedly
Gore's right hand assistant. Don't have a link to the line - still looking for it but it was from the last couple of weeks I think.

Who knows. I sure don't.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:46 PM
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33. ...
Kicking while I can. ;)
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:37 PM
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25. Because "No action on the issue of candidacy." was to get him past this.
But the CA effort was working.

So Gore finally took some action on the issue.

Not the answer I wanted to hear. But I heard it.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:15 PM
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8. Um....
I really don't quite know what to think of this.

It seems pretty clear to me that he doesn't want to run and why keep it up at this point?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:28 PM
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14. Do they realize the fundraising deadline for this quarter is
only a few days away? And this is the last quarter to raise money before the upcoming primary? And the Democratic candidate will be chosen during the primaries?

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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:50 AM
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28. I don't think that the money would be the issue.
I'm not expecting him to run at this point, but I doubt money would be an issue:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/13/124614/83

"But Monday's announcement would seem to have little to do with political affiliation. Gore has said repeatedly he's not interested in running for president again.

San Jose State University's Larry Gerston said Gore's relationship with Kleiner Perkins probably has few political implications. Only if there is a logjam among Democratic contenders next March after the primaries could it be politically significant.

'If, under those extraordinary circumstances, party leaders come to him, then ties to all the big sources of money such as Kleiner Perkins would be invaluable,' Gerston said. 'Just don't bet the ranch on that scenario.' "
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 06:17 PM
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18. draftgore is a close personal friend of al's
unless he is a complete phony. at any rate, his office is down the street from al's. there is no way al is not aware. if he objected to draftgore, he would surely be able to get that word out. or walk down the street.
i really do expect a statement from al. or at least one from draftgore. and i believe al stated that he would endorse a candidate at some point. that would be my drop dead date. the latest i heard was that he could get in as late as dec 4.
:shrug:
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wildflowergardener Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:40 PM
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19. draftgore
I could be wrong, but wasn't his friend the head of the algore.org site, not draft gore?

Well I do wish he'd run but am not very hopeful anymore - however as there is no one else I really like I can't help still wishing he would - hoping he will, even though I know it's probably not very likely.

I do think there is a difference though between actually putting his name on the ballot and trying to influence him to run - in the first he doesn't really get to make the decision himself - which isn't fair.

Meg
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:49 PM
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22. my bad. you are correct, although
i think they both work together closely. i have no doubt the phone lines lit up when this thing hit. oh, to be a fly on the wall. (wonder what the folks at the nsa are thinking.)
what dylan told us is that he is watching, and if the effort takes off he will run. i can't shake the feeling that this is just a dirty trick.
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wildflowergardener Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:57 PM
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23. email
How much to you want to bet they trace that email back to Dick Cheney or Karl Rove?

: )
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:03 PM
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24. sucker bet
smells funny. and why isn't the media all over this?
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:16 AM
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35. It's actually the person from algore.org
who is a friend of his. A woman runs draftgore.com.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:42 PM
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20. What part of N...O... do you people not get???
He's NOT running now move on and pick someone else...I don't Gore can be any clearer..HE'S NOT RUNNING.


Geez...

Doug D.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:47 PM
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21. thanks for your input, Doug
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 05:34 AM
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31. What's it to you when people move on?
There's plenty of time for people to decide-it's their prerogative to want to wait and see for the time being. :eyes:
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toadzilla Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:41 PM
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26. at least it keeps the climate change issue at the forefront.
thats the primary issue people are looking to Al to lead us on.

furthermore, its not over till its over. political involvement is good, in any form.
so many of us are so apathetic these days, i'll take passion in whatever form it comes.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:59 AM
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27. Kick.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:52 AM
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29. What we anticipate seldom occurs;
what we least expect generally happens.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:15 AM
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34. If only...
I so hope that turns out to be true in this case.
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