So you think Dennis is crazy for thinking that life may exist elsewhere?

[OffWithTheirHeads]

I submit that a much crazier notion is that there is a supreme being elsewhere but check this out!
http://www.deepastronomy.com/hubble-deep-field.html

[seemslikeadream]

1. I'm so glad you posted this

I read about it earlier and couldn't fine it

[Mythsaje]

2. I think it's inconceivable that there isn't...

Carl Sagan calculated it out mathematically on Cosmos. Chances are very good there are.

Now whether or not they're here is another matter entirely. I'd say the jury is still out on that one.

[Ravy]

3. Can you post a link where he said that?

The only reference I heard him make was in the debate when he said he saw some flying object that was unidentified.

[lonestarnot]

9. Yeah. I'd also like to see that link.

[HughMoran]

47. That was my first thought as well!

This is not even a debate about Dennis or UFO's, this is a personal injection of opinion by a poster. It's an interesting topic and I am 100% sure there is other life out there somewhere, though I am somewhat doubtful that they have figured out how to do trans-light speed travel yet.

[Ravy]

51. It is another "Al Gore said he created the Internet", imho

I haven't seen Dennis say that what he saw was extraterrestrial. Perhaps he has, but I haven't seen it and would like to see a link before we start putting ourselves in a position of defending him for something he didn't say.

Pundits like to make the little spooky noises and roll their eyes when they talk about Dennis and UFOs, but we do not have to buy into their assertion. I heard him say he saw something that was unidentified. If he thought it was a spaceship, then it wouldn't have been unidentified, would it?

[Doc_Technical]

4. No, he isn't crazy.

I'd like to think that there is intelligent life

somewhere in the Universe.

[L. Coyote]

5. Life is a property of matter.

[Richard Steele]

6. Nope. Any way I look at it, it seems likely there's more life out there.nm

[opiate69]

7. What an awesome video! Thanks for posting that.

[madrchsod]

8. that was so fucking cool.......

we really are mere dust in the wind

[StarryNite]

23. That is exactly

what I was thinking while I was watching that wonderful video. All we are is dust in the wind.

[tomg]

10. Out there? No, but if he though there was

very much intelligent life on this planet I would.

[Roon]

11. They are watching us

We watch animals all the time without them knowing it.

[RestoreGore]

12. Well, as was said in Contact:: if there isn't then it's an awful waste of space

Thank you, Carl Sagan. And no, I don't think he is crazy for thinking that. It is arrogant to think we are omnipotant in the universe.

[The Traveler]

13. Doesn't this whole topic piss you off?

It is a silly discussion in the context of this race. Compared to Kucinich, Russert (a.k.a Mr Potato-Head) has the moral IQ of a turnip.

Someone should ask Russert ... how many times has Dennis Kucinich taken the unpopular stand? And how many times has the passage of time and course of events proven him right?

[razors edge]

14. I would buy this explanation before any

of the big three religions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlcPWa6SomE

[Atman]

15. You'd have to be crazy to think life DOESN'T exist elsewhere.

.

[Disturbed]

18. Kucincih did not say that.

Ms. McLane did claim in her recent book that he said that he saw a UFO & received a communication from the occupants of that craft. Kucinich was not asked about that part. His answer to that would be real interesting.

[pscot]

16. I truly don't give a shit

what Dennis Kucinich thinks about extra-terrestrial life. What the fuck is with you people? Don't we have enough real issues to deal with, without getting into Kucinich's fantasy life?

[Basileus Basileon]

17. "Life may exist elsewhere" is a far cry from

"Life hopped in a tin can, travelled hundreds of millions of light years, hovered in front of me, and then zipped away again."

[MidwestTransplant]

19. Thanks. Super interesting video. Most interesting thing I have seen in quite a while.

[MonkeyFunk]

20. No

the issue is not whether anyone believes life exists elsewhere. What a strawman that is!

The issue is whether he believes he saw a craft of alien origin, and whether that craft "gave him directions".

[Caretha]

35. And whose to say?

Moses spoke to a burning bush and came away with some important message...or so they say:shrug:

[MonkeyFunk]

36. And the world would have been a lot better off

if the people had rejected his woo-woo nonsense, too.

[Toots]

40. And Ezekiel actually described a metallic flying craft in great detail

There are numerous and I mean numerous mentions of God's Chariots in the Christian bible. Why should God need a mechanical device to transport himself around?

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. He is in extremely good company

see Carl Sagan and Dr Drake of SETI fame

[MonkeyFunk]

37. Carl Sagan

claimed he'd gotten directions from a UFO?

[Skinner]

42. You need to read "Demon-Haunted World" by Carl Sagan.

Yes, he believed that there is almost certainly intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.

But he was not aware of *any* credible evidence of its existence, let alone any credible evidence that Earth has been visited by extraterrestrial life. None of the alleged evidence stands up to scrutiny.

[TZ]

45. Thank you for that!

I can't tell you how many times I have tried to say that exact same thing and been shot down as being "narrow minded" because of it!!:applause:

[Heidi]

22. I very much like that at least one of our candidates has evolved beyond

believing that humans are the center of the universe. If I were guessing, I'd say he probably also believes there's life beyond US borders, as well. :hi:

[MonkeyFunk]

38. The issue at hand is not whether

extra-terrestrial life exists.

It's whether or not Kucinich believes he saw an alien ship and received directions from it.

They're really very different issues.

[Heidi]

43. My post wasn't about whether exta-terrestrial life exists.

I don't have an opinion about that. But I do believe that human beings aren't the center of the universe, and I very much look forward to the day when our government no longer behaves as though the US is the center of the universe.

[LWolf]

44. Excellent point. n/t

[Lydia Leftcoast]

24. There are billions of galaxies with billions of stars, some of which have planets.

It would not be surprising if even just one star in each galaxy had a planet with intelligent life.

In fact, it would be pretty weird if only our tiny little planet had intelligent life.

However, even the closest star is four light years away, and to reach it in those four years, we'd need a spaceship that traveled at 669 million miles per hour. If we had a spaceship capable of traveling at 1 million miles per hour, which we don't, it would take over 2,000 years for a one-way trip. I don't know how fast present-day space vehicles travel, but it might take longer than all of human history so far to reach that star, only to find no planets or no inhabited planets.

No wonder no one has come visiting. And perhaps it's just as well.

[stranger81]

25. very well put -- k&r [n/t]

[LeftishBrit]

26. I don't think it's remotely crazy to think that life exists outside our solar system

In fact, I think it probably does.

I think it is somewhat crazy, or at least improbable, to believe that 'UFO's' represent extra-terrestrials visiting Earth.

But it's true that most politicians have somewhat crazy beliefs. While I don't believe in a Supreme Being myself, I don't think it's necessarily crazy to do so. BUT I think it is extremely and dangerously crazy to think that a Supreme Being is supporting you in bombing other countries.

[frogmarch]

27. Carl Sagan didn't

believe Earth had ever been visited by ETs. He rejected the idea of UFOs as extraterrestrial space craft. That's not to say he didn't consider it possible that life exists somewhere other than Earth.

I don't believe ETs have visited Earth either, but even if Dennis Kucinich does (I don't know that he does), I wouldn't hold it against him. There are weirder things than believing in flying saucers, in my opinion.

[Lilith Velkor]

28. Nice frame, Hitler

[stranger81]

29. an even COOLER photo -- the Hubble Ultra Deep Field

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2004/07/text/

[LibertyorDeath]

30. You would have to have an Exceptionally

Retarded Mindset to think life in some form does not exist

elsewhere in the Universe

Step right up all you

Motherfucking Tards!!!

[MonkeyFunk]

39. Life may or may not exist elsewhere

Nobody knows.

But that's not the question raised by the Kucinich/UFO story.

It's not whether life exists elsewhere. It's whether Kucinich believes he encountered such life, and that it gave him directions.

[MrSlayer]

31. No, I think anyone would have to be extremely obtuse to NOT think so.

That video is excellent.

[orleans]

32. no, i look at shirley mclaine & think what a bitch she is to have printed that. n/t

[LeftCoast]

33. The disbelief comes not from thinking there's no life out there, but that it can violate physics

Or at least what we know of physics - which says nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

In a universe so vast, and so difficult to travel, it just seems unlikely they'd end up here.

[earth mom]

34. No because I believe it's possible. Though it's not something I actually believe in right now.

I'm sort of agnostic about it I guess. B-)

[spanone]

41. yep, big guy with a white beard and gates to his place....in the sky....

[TZ]

46. "I submit that a much crazier notion is that there is a supreme being elsewhere.."

You are aware that Kucinich is also a Catholic and a fairly religious one at that (used to be pro-life actually)....

[MisterHowdy]

48. Any astronomer or cosmologist will tell you that life elsewhere is a certainty

n/t

[nealmhughes]

49. Well, sure, how else would Heavenly Father and Mother procreate near Kolob?

O! Ye generation of perfidious Lamanites! Ye who would starve the Salamander and smash the golden tablets!

:sarcasm:

[treestar]

50. There could be, we have no way of knowing at the present time

Maybe Dennis is cleverly picking up the Supermarket Tabloid readers' vote. Now to just get them registered.

:rofl:

[Individualist]

52. Do you have a link for that statement?

If not, you're putting words in his mouth that he didn't say.