Is there any chance that Gore could still get in that this point? n/t

[Harper_is_Bush]

[Downtown Hound]

1. No, he's not running.

I wish he was, but he's not. Time to accept that and move on. He doesn't want to be president and I think he would feel really funny about going up against Clinton.

[Harper_is_Bush]

7. That sounds more like your opinion. I'm wanting to know if there are empirical factors.

thx

[Adsos Letter]

11. He made it clear on NPR today...

...time to place your energies at someone else's disposal. :)

[Harper_is_Bush]

13. Those were his words? n/t

[Adsos Letter]

16. I misconstrued your question...

...No, he did not say it was time to put our energy at someone elses disposal...those are my words to you...see my other post for his comments on NPR, while I look up the link for you...

[Harper_is_Bush]

18. link?

[Adsos Letter]

22. Here ya go...

"All Things Considered" Interview with Al Gore:

http://www.npr.org/search.php?text=al+gore&sort=DREDATE%3Anumberdecreasing&aggId=0&prgId=0&topicId=0&how_long_ago=1

:)

[mod mom]

68. link doesn't work. Would you please check it. I missed this info

[Harper_is_Bush]

So, you now admit Gore DIDN'T say that, and yet you're supplying a link anyway?

Why?

[Adsos Letter]

26. I am supplying the link to the interview...

in which he makes clear that he has no desire to run in 2008.

[Harper_is_Bush]

28. If you're unable to quote what you claim makes your case...

..then you're essentially admitting you got nothing.

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[Harper_is_Bush]

32. You made a claim you can't support. Not me. n/t

[Adsos Letter]

34. My claim is supported in the interview...

where you can decide for yourself if it is merited. Now...go do your own work, the interview is not long...decide for yourself instead of depending on the "proof" of others.

[Harper_is_Bush]

37. what bullshit.

You've already had to back-peddle on one thing, and now it's up to me to dig through an interview to support YOUR claims?

Just stop.

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[Harper_is_Bush]

36. delete

[Downtown Hound]

15. He has stated he is not running countless times

I'm really not sure what it's going to take for people to realize that when he says he isn't running, it means, hold your breath here, that he isn't running. Do you think him stating that he isn't running over and over and over and over and over again isn't empirical evidence?

[Harper_is_Bush]

17. You are wrong in your claim. He has not stated "that he isn't running".

let's be accurate here, please.

[Downtown Hound]

19. Um, yes he has. Many times.

I'm too tired of this topic right now to go and look up the instances, so if you're really interested, go and google them. He has said time and again he isn't running. It's just that there are folks like you that refuse to believe it no matter what. So, I'm done with this now. AL GORE IS NOT RUNNING. End of story.

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[Downtown Hound]

23. Doh! Lookie here! Just one link that I found when I googled

Al Gore says he isn't running 2008. There were many more. Next time, do your own work.

http://time4change.wordpress.com/2007/10/17/nobel-prize-winning-former-us-vice-president-and-environmental-campaigner-al-gore-has-ruled-out-a-late-entry-into-the-2008-presidential-race/

[Harper_is_Bush]

27. Supply the quotes yourself please

I won't be searching through your links looking for something that supports your claim.

You've made the claim, not support it.

Explicitely, yourself. Please.

[Downtown Hound]

42. Un-fuck-ing believable

You ask for me to back up my claims, in spite of the fact that I basically told you to get off your lazy ass and look it up yourself, accuse me of being full of it, and then when I give you what you want, you won't even read it?

You are a true piece of work.

Okay, since you seem to have extreme difficulty doing anything yourself, here is a CNN story.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/05/gore.office/index.html

He states that he has "fallen out of love with politics" and has "no plans to run for office again." Now that's it. Do your own research. Or don't. But don't ask people to provide you with proof and then not even look at that proof when it's presented to you. Or maybe you just don't like that fact that you're making a fool of yourself here because it's pretty obvious to anyone with a modicum of critical thinking skills that Gore IS NOT RUNNING, HE HAS SAID TIME AND AGAIN HE IS NOT RUNNING, I AM GIVING YOU NEWS STORIES WHERE HE SAYS HE ISN'T RUNNING, and you're doing everything possible to try and deflect attention from that. Either way, I don't care. Enjoy denial world.

[Adsos Letter]

44. Don't waste anymore time on this guy...

he isn't interested in getting to the facts; he just wants to argue. I have also provided him with a link which he refuses to investigate.

Life is too short to argue with this kind...

[Downtown Hound]

46. I'm not, I just wanted to point out one last time what a clown he is. n/t

[Adsos Letter]

47. Agreed. n/t

[Harper_is_Bush]

48. "You ask for me to back up my claims, in spite of the fact ..I told you to ..look it up yourself".

LOL!

Full assinine quote:

"You ask for me to back up my claims, in spite of the fact that I basically told you to get off your lazy ass and look it up yourself,"

How bloody old are you? Do you yell at your mother when she hasn't washed your favorite shirt, in spite of that fact you told her to do it? Herself?

Good gawd.

[Downtown Hound]

50. You are a very sad man.

[Harper_is_Bush]

52. And you are a very dishonest man.

[Downtown Hound]

54. Everyone, read Harper's version of dishonesty

"Al Gore has said he isn't running."

Harper: "No he hasn't."

"Yes he has, look it up on google."

Harper: "No, I'm not. You look it up for me."

"Okay, here's an article where he says he isn't running."

Harper: "I'm not going to read that. Give me an exact quote." (He's a hard worker isn't he?)

"Okay, here's an exact quote, along with another story."

Harper: "You're dishonest!"

I've had my share of flamewars on DU but few of them have been as bizarre as this one. I really don't know what you're playing at Harper, but it's pretty tiresome. Now I really am done with you. Bye bye! I really hope that there are some beautiful sunsets in denial world.

[polichick]

2. I would say it's clear that he kept all options open until...

He decided to take the position in San Francisco. And perhaps he will be able to accomplish more to further his cause in the private sector ~ in any case he'll have a lot more fun.

[Adsos Letter]

3. No.

He isn't interested in the presidency, at least not in 2008. If you get a chance, listen to the NPR interview with him today.

[polichick]

5. Thanks for that tip...

Is the interview available on their site?

[Adsos Letter]

8. Not sure...

...I caught it listening to NPR on-line while doing some research...my brain tuned in when he started responding to the issue of a public move to place him on the ballot...he said he had no "Sherman Statement" to issue, but made it clear that 2008 was not in the cards; although, he did leave open the possibility for a 2012 candidacy...if I heard correctly...

[polichick]

10. Hmm...very interesting. nt

[ben_meyers]

21. 2012? So he would run against an incumbent Dem

or is he predicting a Repub win next year? I don't think you heard right.

[Adsos Letter]

25. It's possible I misunderstood his answer...

What I did NOT misunderstand is that, while he may become involved again politically in the future, he has ruled out a 2008 run.

Here is a link to today's interview on "All Things Considered":


http://www.npr.org/search.php?text=al+gore&sort=DREDATE%3Anumberdecreasing&aggId=0&prgId=0&topicId=0&how_long_ago=1


:)

[Harper_is_Bush]

41. And yet, you refuse to point to a specific quote.

Why?

Instead of pointing the finger at others for not paying closer attention to your link, wouldn't it just be easier to provide the Gore quote that leads you to your conclusion?

Just sayin....

[Adsos Letter]

43. see post #40, please...

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[Harper_is_Bush]

12. WTF is your problem? I'm asking a question here.

get a grip.

[Bluebear]

14. ME, get a grip? Why are you obsessed over this? You don't WANT him to run, why are you so concerned?

[Bonobo]

33. As an outside observer, with no axe to grind, I have to say WTF is your problem?

Bluebear is clearly correct about you. You have a massive agenda, are being passive-aggressive and have lost LOTS of bank credit with me with this stunt.

So, either explain WTF your problem is or my MISUNDERSTANDING is, or fuck off and deal with the fact that I have seen through your crappy little veil.

[Harper_is_Bush]

39. "you have a massive agenda"

and what is that?

As an "outside observer", maybe YOU should fuck off, since you clearly have the "agenda", not I.

[Bonobo]

49. I didn't stutter. Answer the question.

What do you personally gain from sharpshooting at people that hope to persuade Gore to run?

Huh?

[Harper_is_Bush]

53. Good grief. I'm asking people who claim he says he won't run to provide proof

You're a bit lost. Take another look at the thread content.

[tammywammy]

6. No, he's not running. n/t

[Harper_is_Bush]

9. delete

[youthere]

24. Nope. Not a snowball's chance in hell.

I wish he were, but he's not. I'd love to be wrong...but it doesn't look like I am. I'm really sorry. For you, for me, for all of us.

[Kurovski]

38. Thank God!

Dearie me. Can you imagine what would have happened if he were president on 9/11?

[polichick]

29. It's actually a clever choice Gore has made...

He's obviously decided that he can further his cause the quickest in this capitalist society by sponsoring the most innovative research and showing how much money there is to be made on green technology.

[Adsos Letter]

31. I agree...

...the problems the next president will face will be enormous. It is quite likely he will be more effective on the course he is persuing.

[happyslug]

35. Just Remember Robert Kennedy did not enter till MARCH

By June he had won California. His campaign was cut short by his assassination, but my point is clear, Gore can enter and win the Nomination Now some things are different now, while New Hampshire is still the First Primary, the real key to the Following Super Tuesday (Super Tuesday did NOT exist in 1968). Gore maybe able to win even if he does NOT enter the Super Tuesday primaries, but I doubt it. Thus if Gore enters he has to do it by the deadline to be on the SUper Tuesday Primaries, which is sometime in January. Thus Gore does NOT have to jump into the race, if he is indeed waiting, till January 2008.

Furthermore, if Super Tuesday does NOT decide the Nomination, then Gore can enter even later, only time will tell.

[L. Coyote]

62. We RFK campaign workers knew we had won the White House the night we won CA.

It happened that fast, but today there is a very different primary schedule, and more primary states.

[happyslug]

63. My point is there is still a lot of time to decide.

Things have changed, I pointed out Super Tuesday as an example, but none of the changes mean you have to decide before January 1, 2008. Robert Kennedy was NOT even in the New Hampshire Primary when Eugene McCarthy did a good showing against Johnson. Remember Johnson won the New Hampshire Primary, but not by the numbers Johnson wanted, and do to that result Johnson withdrew his quest for the 1968 Democratic Nomination. That opened up the possibility of being Nominated to Robert Kennedy. Kennedy then announced in March AFTER the New Hampshire Primary.

Now you have more and more early primaries then in 1968, but none require nomination petitions before 1/1/08. Gore has enough support to get any petition signed and approved with 2 weeks of any announcement. Gore can win with a write in Campaign if he waits to announce AFTER the time period for such Petitions. My point is simple, Gore has time. That does NOT mean he is running or not Running, but he has time.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

67. It doesn't matter what he CAN do.

Gore has done no fundraising. He has no money. Gore has done no on-the-ground preparation for a campaign. He has no grass roots organization. He has no campaign staff. If anything, he was using the what-if factor to garner more mainstream attention for his environmental proposals. He is not running for President.

[happyslug]

69. And the same can be true of Robert Kennedy in March 1968

No one was going to fight Johnson for the Candidacy till McCarthy came in Second in New Hampshire AND LBJ quit the race. Then and only then did Kennedy announce his decision to run for the Presidency. Humphrey inherited LBJ's machine and could easily enter the race, but Robert Kennedy showed you can build a staff. raise Money and do the on the ground preparations within about a month. It may take longer today, but given the support there is for a Gore Presidency, his activities in non-political items (and connections to various people running for various offices) that raising money, getting a campaign Staff together, and even getting the petitions to be on the primary ballots will not take long. Gore can sit down on a park Bench and people will gather around him, urging him to run and given they support to Gore.

My point is NOT that Gore will run, but that it is NOT to late for him to enter the race. It is only November.

[AZ Criminal JD]

70. There are so many errors in your post

It is hard to know where to begin. When Kennedy ran there were not contribution limits to candidates so it was much easier to raise money. Gore would find it impossible to raise the millions he would need in the time left. When Kennedy ran the last primaries were in June. Now almost all of the delegates will be chosen by February 5. The deadlines to get on the ballot have passed in the early states and more are passing with each day. It is too late.

[jaysunb]

45. December 12, 2007

mark the date. If Al does not announce by then, he won't be a candidate.

[Harper_is_Bush]

51. why is that date significant? n/t

[maddiejoan]

55. 12/12/2000

was the date the Supreme Court handed Admiral Chimpy McCokespoon the Presidency.

[jaysunb]

56. Well...there will be a speech given in Oslo on the 10th

Allow 2 days for return to USA, there'll be a major news conference and we'll all know.

7 years to the date, of another speech....

[New Earth]

58. cuz it's my birthday

:o

[Freddie Stubbs]

60. It is Dionne Warwick and Mayim Bialik's birthday

[Lil Missy]

57. Nope. He has said he is not running.

[momto3]

59. No. nt

[L. Coyote]

61. He will be the most sought after VP candidate in history!

[book_worm]

64. I doubt it

and he wouldn't want to be VP again.

[Apollo11]

65. Where were you in 1992 thru 2000 ???

I don't even know if it's possible for someone to be elected for a third term as VP.

[Cronus Protagonist]

66. Albert Gore is The One

How he breaks free from the Matrix and saves us all cannot be predicted.

http://cronus.com/gore