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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:17 PM
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Edwards: "Senator Clinton had her chance to stand up and she chose not to use it."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/12/463039.aspx

<snip>

From NBC's Mark Murray
Whoa, Nellie... Edwards just released this statement: “On Saturday at the Iowa Jefferson Jackson dinner, Senator Clinton unveiled her new campaign slogan to ‘turn up the heat’ on the Republicans. Well, somebody will have to tell me how you ‘turn up the heat’ by voting with Bush, Cheney and the neocons on their path to war with Iran. Because I don't believe that's turning up the heat – I think that's giving them exactly what they want."

More from Edwards: “Senator Clinton had her chance to stand up and she chose not to use it. Our nation needs leaders who have the strength and backbone to fight the president on his march to war with Iran -- not quicken the pace.”
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:21 PM
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1. Edwards is really taking her on and exposing her..... timely post. thanks.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:37 PM
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20. ummm...so did he.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 12:13 PM
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34. um, but he later said he was wrong, and he apologized.
But... according to Dick Durbin, Edwards and Clinton BOTH KNEW that intelligence was being fixed around policy wrt the Iraq war and they BOTH STILL VOTED TO ALLOW THE INVASION!!

That's why I'm into Kucinich, UFOs be damned. He was against war in Iraq for as long as I have been against war in Iraq. He stands for the same things I stand for.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:22 PM
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2. Smart tact to take. Both Clintons supported Bush firmly on terrorism and Iraq war
decisions from 2001-2006.

It was only after Lieberman lost his primary race that they adjusted their rhetoric to make it sound more antiwar than they are.

Edwards can have alot to work with on this road - it's not like either Clinton stuck their necks out to oppose Bush in any serious or public way and let other Democrats take the risks with NO BACKUP from nationally known Dem figures.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:22 PM
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3. K & R AND 2 BIG THUMBS UP!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:25 PM
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4. This could backfire on Edwards.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:41 PM
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21. And, why would the truth,
"backfire"? It will still be the truth when he wakes up the next morning.

I say more Power to 'im! And Truth To Power!
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:26 PM
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5. If I can't have DK for Pres - I'll take John!....K&R
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 05:48 PM
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15. second that
actually, the elimination polls on DU a couple weeks back showed Edwards to be the compromise candidate of DU.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:26 PM
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6. It isn't like Hillary did not have time to consider what her vote would mean...
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:28 PM
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7. Edwards had his chance to stand up and avoided it, too.
Pot... meet kettle.

This from the guy who supported the war and the PATRIOT Act?

:eyes:

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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:37 PM
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10. Exactly! eom
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 05:38 PM
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11. Edwards learned his lesson. Hillary didn't.
Obviously.

:kick:
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:36 PM
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8. I'm just glad that someone's stepping up..
and putting some heat on her. This is nothing compared to what the GOP has in store for her, should she win the nomination.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:37 PM
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9. Excellent .. Vote John Edwards '08.
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 05:40 PM
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12. Preach it John...
COSPONSORS(16), ALPHABETICAL : (Sort: by date)


Sen Allard, Wayne - 10/2/2002
Sen Baucus, Max - 10/7/2002
Sen Bayh, Evan - 10/2/2002
Sen Breaux, John B. - 10/9/2002
Sen Bunning, Jim - 10/4/2002
Sen Domenici, Pete V. - 10/2/2002
Sen Edwards, John - 10/3/2002
Sen Helms, Jesse - 10/2/2002
Sen Hutchinson, Tim - 10/2/2002
Sen Johnson, Tim - 10/7/2002
Sen Landrieu, Mary L. - 10/2/2002
Sen McCain, John - 10/2/2002
Sen McConnell, Mitch - 10/2/2002
Sen Miller, Zell - 10/2/2002
Sen Thurmond, Strom - 10/10/2002
Sen Warner, John - 10/2/2002

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:SJ00046:@@@P
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 05:41 PM
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13. officer, if only I knew then what I know now,
I never would have had that third and fourth and fifth and sixth and seventh martini before driving . . .


Hillary is either guilty of supporting the illegal invasion of another country (one that has cost nearly 4000 American lives, tens of thousands of maimed, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives and a couple of trillion dollars), or she is stupid beyond belief, or both.

She does not deserve to be President.
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Edgeoforever Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 05:45 PM
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14. He's right! She could have sponsored the IWR but failed to do so. John did!
Talk about standing up!
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 05:54 PM
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16. Edwards: "To ensure that Iran never gets nuclear weapons, we need to keep ALL options on the table"
Edited on Mon Nov-12-07 05:54 PM by Truth Hurts A Lot
"...Let me reiterate – ALL options must remain on the table."

Edwards: 'Iran must know world won't back down'

During a speech via satellite at a security conference last week in Herzliya, Israel, Edwards joined the chorus of those threatening the Iranian government. "Iran threatens the security of Israel and the entire world," Edwards said, echoing a line peddled by many neoconservatives. "Let me be clear: Under no circumstances can Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons."

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Edwards_Iran_must_know_world_wont_0123.html

:eyes:
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 06:00 PM
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17. Yeah, John Surely "Stood Up"..
"As a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, I firmly believe that the issue of Iraq is not about politics. It's about national security. We know that for at least 20 years, Saddam Hussein has obsessively sought weapons of mass destruction through every means available. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons today. He has used them in the past, and he is doing everything he can to build more. Each day he inches closer to his longtime goal of nuclear capability -- a capability that could be less than a year away.

I believe that Saddam Hussein's Iraqi regime represents a clear threat to the United States, to our allies, to our interests around the world, and to the values of freedom and democracy we hold dear.

Saddam has proven his willingness to act irrationally and brutally against his neighbors and against his own people. Iraq's destructive capacity has the potential to throw the entire Middle East into chaos, and poses a mortal threat to our vital ally, Israel.

<snip>

The time has come for decisive action. With our allies, we must do whatever is necessary to guard against the threat posed by an Iraq armed with weapons of mass destruction, and under the thumb of Saddam Hussein.

The United States must lead an international effort to remove the regime of Saddam Hussein -- and to assure that Iraq fulfills its obligations to the international community."



http://web.archive.org/web/20021214041757/edwards.senate.gov/statements/20020912_iraq.html
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:32 PM
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18. Slimy Edwards lies some more
Condi Rice just ruled out Kyl-Lieberman being used as a pretext for war. Condi said flat out it didn't authorize war.

Edwards, whose lust for power has driven him to to the lowest depths of humanity, won't give up a good thing for himself though. He continues to lie about Hillary's vote.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:35 PM
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19. You are using CONDI RICE to slime EDWARDS?
Because of her sterling integrity?

:wtf:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:44 PM
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22. Using condi as a source of
veracity has got to be the most disingenous thing I've read..Today!

Anything to change the subject from hillary's bushenabling through the years.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 10:21 PM
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26. Read reply to the same knee jerk reaction n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 10:35 PM
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27. hillary's a bushenabler.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 10:55 PM
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29. Oh gee
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 10:20 PM
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25. I'll help you figure it out
If the Bush cabal thought there was any chance they would use Kyl-Lieberman to get to war with Iran they would never say it didn't authorize war. Why would they? There's no reason for them to admit that if it isn't true. Kyl-Lieberman doesn't authorize war with Iran and everybody who has been screaming that is does turned out to be wrong.

Quit reacting to names and start reacting to what's going on. I'm not sliming John Edwards. He already has the maximum amount of slime that could possibly adhere to him. I'm only illuminating his bullshit.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:00 PM
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30. You're using the Bush Cabal to illuminate using Condi Rice?
:rofl:
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:11 PM
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32. Yeah. Kind of drives home the point that the evil ones
would use the resolution if it actually was any help to them. I tried to explain it. I was expecting too much from you.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:02 PM
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31. Yeah, you're helping people figure something out, all right.
nm
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:12 PM
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33. Not my fault if they can't get simple logic.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:45 PM
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23. K+R
edwards has just about earned my vote, at this point he and kucinich are the ONLY candidates telling it like it is.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:50 PM
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24. Again, he acts like he didn't vote for the war
Edited on Mon Nov-12-07 09:50 PM by KingFlorez
When he was in the Senate, he voted for the war with no problem. He had an opportunity to stand up against the Iraq War, but he didn't. Instead of attacking, he should spend some more time explaining why he voted for the war that's going on right now.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 10:38 PM
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28. Note to John:
Nobody is listening to your rants.
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