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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:39 PM
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Still no armor for Humvees in Iraq
and mothers are pleading for help on dailykos: My son's Humvee needs a FRAG Kit 5 NOW!!

So, if you could, read the story there, and also, stop by the NYTimes article and email it around, and let's see if we can't move it up to the top 10 and hence get it on the NYTime's homepage (where the top 10 most e-mailed stories appear).

This shameful treatment (abuse really) of our troops has got to stop.

NYTimes most emailed stories
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:42 PM
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1. I'll bet they figure that the armor is useless anyway.
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 05:42 PM by The_Casual_Observer
Those roadside bombs are so big that they can blow up a bradley fighting vehicle.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:54 PM
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2. Good excuse
NOT!
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:59 PM
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3. Its Like sending someone into battle with a sling shot
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 06:05 PM
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6. helps some, hinders some
Both the Army and the Marines have weighed the expected payoff in additional safety from extra armor against the measurable loss of combat effectiveness from too much armor.

According to a summary of the Armed Forces Medical Examiner's study obtained Friday evening by The Associated Press, the 93 Marines who died from a primary lethal injury of the torso were among 401 Marines who died from combat injuries in Iraq between the start of the war and June 2005.

A military advocacy group, Soldiers for Truth, posted an article about the study on its Web site this week. On Friday evening, The New York Times reported in its online edition that the study for the first time shows the cost in lives lost from inadequate armor.

Autopsy reports and photographic records were analyzed to help the military determine possible body armor redesign.

Of 39 fatal torso wounds in which the bullet or shrapnel entered the Marine's body outside of the ceramic armor plate protecting the chest and back, 31 were close to the plate's edge, according to the study, which was conducted last summer.

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,84787,00.html
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 06:21 PM
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7. Agree Tree but give me the protection
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 06:02 PM
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5. No, but if you dig deep enough, that would actually be the reason.
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 06:11 PM by The_Casual_Observer
It's all about economics.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 06:00 PM
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4. I heard Duncan Hunter assert on c-span today that, just because he hadn't gotten any calls
at his office about his constituents needing body armor than there really wasn't a problem. Head in the sand.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 06:44 PM
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8. Let's get this to the GREATEST...
We need to spread this far and wide. For our soldiers...:cry:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 06:46 PM
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9. damn right! recommended.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 08:04 PM
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10. Kick
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