We had our window in Pakistan

[Taverner]

The window was shortly after 9/11, when we first went into Afghanistan. We had the Taliban on the run, and OBL in the caves, ready to martyr himself. Then they got away - and you have what you have in Pakistan. If we had done our job, rather than go off to Iraq, we could have prevented this. Democracy might have never been threatened in Pakistan. The return of Bhutto might have been one of those great moments.

But no, we had to go to Iraq, and let OBL get away.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. I don't think the issues that simple.

So let's say we went after OBL... by invading Pakistan...

How would that help?

[Taverner]

2. Oh we didn't have to invade Pakistan

We had OBL cornered. If we would have taken him and finished off the Taliban, they wouldn't have spilled into Pakistan and tried to take over.

By window for Pakistan, I meant window to do something about Pakistan.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. For all we know, OBL's always been in Pakistan.

[Taverner]

4. OBL's driver stated that we had him surrounded in Tora Bora

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. Yeah, and his gardener said he was in the Virgin Islands.

:shrug:

[Taverner]

6. True he could have been bluffing

But OBL being at Tora Bora while we had it surrounded was verified by other sources.