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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:08 PM
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If 'waterboarding' is legal, why don't local police use it on suspects in every murder investigation
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 04:10 PM by Blackhatjack
Answer Choices:

A. It is torture. It is coercive, and therefore not likely to lead to trustworthy information.

B. Local police do not have the water facilities to properly use it.

C. Hey that's an idea!


**Why restrict its use to 'suspects', we could use it on 'potential witnesses.'
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:10 PM
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1. We have Tasers, Bro.
'Waterboarding' is so Third World.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:11 PM
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2. Hmmmmm ... tasers AND water? Didn't think about that possibility. n/t
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:13 PM
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5. Maybe just throw a toaster into a bathtub with the suspect until he talks
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 04:23 PM by Atman
Sorry to make light...it's a serious question. Our government has now said torturing suspects is okay in order to force them to give up information. What if there's a "ticking time bomb" scenerio and a burglar won't give up the location of Officer Smith's brother-in-laws stolen HD tv, and the big game is about to start? WATERBOARD HIM! It's really insane what is going on here.

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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:23 PM
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8. Well now... the ticking time bomb scenario is really 'an enhanced interrogation technique'...
...are you talking about a real time bomb?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:11 PM
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3. Well don't give them any ideas.
:P

Besides, they may lie once and then get even nastier treatment later.

Doubly besides, the real way to get truthful information is not with torture but with a hot sexy female spy talkkin' real hot down your earlobe...
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:12 PM
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4. It would be great. All crimes would be solved
Because any suspect would admit to any crime.

Perfect!!!
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:17 PM
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6. The 'friendly' interrogation efforts in the past always yielded more accurate, useful info...
A person who is about to undergo hours of excruciating pain will likely tell an interrogator whatever he wants to hear --not what is true.

The CIA used to use the 'friendly' approach, offering 'carrots' to individuals from whom they wanted to extract information, and they were very successful. You have to wonder how the CIA felt about this change in policy. They had to know the info they were receiving was highly suspect.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:21 PM
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7. They will...if we keep on going like we are torture will be very acceptable..
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:26 PM
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9. The reason suspected CRIMINALS continue to have their rights protected ...
... is because it's CRIMINALS who are using the facade of 'war' to engage in crimes against peace and crimes against humanity. The last thing these CRIMINALS would do is erode their own protections.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:49 PM
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10. AND just what is it that triggers 'enhanced interrogation techniques?'
Is it the type of information you are seeking that justifies it?

Or is it the type of individual you are interrogating that justifies it?

Or is it any time when you are not getting the answers you want from an individual?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:54 PM
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11. Illinois filled up its death row with innocent men who were tortured into admitting to crimes
Crimes that they knew would be executed for. And they still signed admissions of guilt.

Here is a promise. Anyone who thinks this was and still is just happening in Illinois is on drugs. Hard drugs.

Don
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 06:10 PM
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14. Exactly, torturing is nothing new and yet it should be seen as new, funny that some
people actually believe our government and police enforcement organizations to never have engaged in such behaviors before or believe that they have already gotten away with it countless times.
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 05:18 PM
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12. Why limit it to murder investigations, why limit its use to police
Business can kidnap and interrogate rivals. Mothers can water board tight lip offspring to tell exactly what they are going.
Be the first kid on your block to have a water boarding kit. Bottled water only, batteries sold separately.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 06:07 PM
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13. Well if it is legal.... I am sure there are some companies out there ready to try it...
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:12 PM
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15. Because they didn't know that it was no legal.
However, it's still illegal to do it to animals.
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