A caller, Ed Schultz, the second question, and the 52% approval for war with Iran...

[bridgit]

...if while even implied.

My husband and I travel quite a bit in the coarse of maintaining contracts. We listen to mostly progressive talk radio and CD's that we burn. A couple days back (sorry it's taken this long to post this as we just sat down this evening basically, Oy!) on The Ed Schultz Show, he was talking about a poll that was/has been taken; mostly referring to the first two questions offered to 'the respondent mind', regarding this neocon hoopla and run up to what may seem an inevitable war with Iran. Albeit "inevitable" absent reasonable, cooler heads stepping forward. The first question being, and I paraphrase:

"Do you think America should go to war with Iran?"

Simple enough, where the second question mentioned was:

"Do you think President Bush will go to war with Iran before leaving office?"

A woman then called in and gave Ed specifics about the very poll he was talking about, stating further she had answered, "No." to the first question and, "Yes." to the second. The poll numbers have generated a 52% agreement that bush will attack Iran before leaving office. But this type of polling samples is very dangerous.

Without the inclusion of more expansive LOQ's, skip patterns, or verbatim modules opening up; the second question gives the impression that America has already, and passively so, intellectually approved of bush attacking Iran before he leaves office...approved inside the 'collective american mind'. It is my further belief that bush's neocon handlers, no-bid war mongers & profiteers, and donor/fan base, will use/misuse this data from behind slow, wide smirks & grins, to forward their position to attack Iran by implying that Americans have already accepted the notion therefore why not...

A 52% given here, without qualifiers such as: "Why do feel bush will not attack?" or, "Why do you feel he will attack before leaving office?" would have generated a whole separate set of data. Data that could have spoke to the opinions of respondents as to bush's mental instability. His intransigence in foreign affairs. His nutty Nixon-esque ramblings. Or even his Boo-yah!! status among some to be sure; but the data is skewed.

Even Mr. Schultz seemed to gloss over the top of such findings never questioning the sample itself, how it was worded; just that it produced a resultant that ultimately favors a war mongering cheney/bush admin, sad...

Beware the push poll!!

[WCGreen]

1. It's just a snap shot poll..

The problem is people, well, conservatives, will be citing this poll as the drum beat for war grows louder and louder...

[bridgit]

2. that's part of my point, a 'snap shot poll' should never be allowed...

in so deadly a scenario as war, any war imo of coarse and yeah they will, i can just hear it now over the podium at some Heritage Found shindig :puke:

[...of J.Temperance]

4. It's called Propaganda....you know we had this crap in the run-up to doing Iraq

They're trying to pull the same fast one with Iran, the poll is pure Propaganda.

[bridgit]

5. i'm say'n, it's the same ole same ole funky shit...

[...of J.Temperance]

6. Yeah I know, I'm agreeing with you ;) n/t

.

[bridgit]

10. cool beans...

:toast:

[...of J.Temperance]

13. Yeah

:toast:

[...of J.Temperance]

3. I think the poll has been mixed with the special sauce

There's NO WAY I believe that 52% of people SUPPORT bombing Iran....not with a good majority of people now AGAINST being in Iraq.

The Iran poll is horsecrap, in my humble opinion.

[bridgit]

8. as mentioned, without qualifiers, RW wing-nuts are in that group hoping that he will...

not right...or good x(

[...of J.Temperance]

11. But we already KNOW that that crowd are borderline insane....

So it's to be expected that they have another War Hard-On....just so long as OTHER peoples' kids go and fight in another of their Deity in the WH's pointless wars of course.

[bridgit]

14. true enough...

[HCE SuiGeneris]

7. Bridgit, you're brilliant

and I love your insightful OPs, but I have to play spelling Nazi...

"course" of maintaining contracts

[bridgit]

9. heh-heh, well...in this case i *sit* corrected...

:)

[HCE SuiGeneris]

12. it's my anal tendencies as well

sitting here playing Devil's advocate...:evilgrin:

[bridgit]

15. you just reminded me to add one item to my Long's Drugs list for tomorow...

Thanks! :bounce:

[sandnsea]

16. I completely agree

The question that asked 'should america bomb Iran to prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon' is so abstract as to be meaningless. If the question were, 'Iran has no nuclear weapon, should we be considering military action', then the answer would have been overwhelmingly no. These polls are as dangerous as the neocon rhetoric and I wish people would just ignore the damn things.

[bridgit]

18. most agreed, ignore the damn things, their charade must end...

[sandnsea]

17. dupesiedaisee

[robinlynne]

19. I heard John Dean speak, and he said the joint chiefs are against the war, and they are

going to keep it from happening.

[bridgit]

20. i've heard that too, and after watching our military conducting their actions like the same...

Jolly Green Giant of Vietnam; i believe they have no interest in ending up like the Russian army in Afghanistan either...but there are some die hard careers & egos tied up in this one too, and, sadly, enough crazies to carry the fodder

[malaise]

21. General question: why does MSM love to cite polls supporting

Bushco's madness while ignoring all the polls against the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq? I don't consider Ed an MSM hack.

[bridgit]

22. imo it's the long time now tabloid-ization of america's free press, people don't care to stand...

in line at some grocery store with a cart full of whatever having to digest polling sample methodology; they want to know that the sky is either blue, grey, or blustery caring far less for the barometric/atmospherics of the matter i.e.

Bat-Boy Has Alien Baby

Jennifer Says, "I hate you, Brad!!"

52% Agree Bush To Invade Iran

Crack Found In Brit Hair Follicle

Angels Talk To 3 Kids In Mall Food Court

etc...