Feinstein and Schumer, may God have mercy on your miserable souls

[derby378]

Both of you had your chance to stick it to the Bush junta by denying Mukasey the AG position. You could have ended it today. And both of you blew it. You kissed Herr Decider's ass and gave your assent to the wholesale violations of the Fifth Amendment and the Eighth Amendment by giving legal clearance to the torture technique known as waterboarding.

We want no such people as you in the Senate if you're going to fold up like yesterday's newspaper.

As far as I'm concerned, you are no longer Democrats. You are traitors to the party you have called home for so many years, professing loyalty while poisoning it from within. God have mercy on you both.

[Bozita]

1. Well stated!

Recommended.

[derby378]

3. Thanks!

And if any California or NY Dems want to shake their fists at me for stating the obvious, they're welcome to do so. Here I am. Come and get it.

[Le Taz Hot]

37. If you recall correctly, the

Democratic-Party-do-or-die party wonks around here went apoplectic when they thought Cindy Sheehan was going to run against her in the Democratic primary. 'Course I find it more than a little amusing that they're now apoplectic in the fact that she's NOT running as a Democrat against Pelosi. :crazy:

This is her last term and, like her buddy Bush, isn't even trying to hide that she is the epitome of DINO.

[tavalon]

46. This is her last term?

[derby378]

61. Honestly, I supported a Sheehan run against Feinstein in '06

Barbara Boxer had a come-to-Jesus meeting with Cindy, however, and the campaign went poof. This was back before the corpo-Dems on the Hill alienated her from the party once and for all.

[bullwinkle428]

2. Feinstein doesn't surprise me in the least; Schumer's actions

are an incredible disappointment. I hope they don't think we'll forget about this when their next election cycle rolls around...

[derby378]

6. Schumer's up for re-election in 2010

If New York Democrats can't find someone to run against him between now and 2010, then the New York Democratic machine is in serious trouble and in dire need of an intervention from the rest of us.

[tavalon]

47. Ya think?

[bdamomma]

24. throw them out guys, throw them out and NO DONATIONS!!!!!!!!!

[Mike03]

4. Same reaction as previous poster: Schumer amazes me

Are we absolutely sure this bill is what you say it is?

Sometimes there is a very good reason to vote for or against a bill that sounds good on the surface but really isn't.

Shit... Not that long ago I was hoping Schumer would run for president. It's not like him to support a corrupt, despicable bill.

Is there something we may not be seeing?

[Toots]

39. WTF are you talking about?

This is not about any bill. It is about another Bush* crony being established into the Just Us Dept. Don't you pay attention at all?

[mitchum]

5. They are both AIPAC tools...

and I have no mercy for them

[bonito]

7. Neocons as well!

[disndat]

12. Schumer may be an AIPAC tool

but Dianne Feinstein is a tool of Bush, a war profiteer and corrupt from the get-go. She got billions of military contracts for her husband's military supply business and used her position in her role in the Senate Intelligence committee to manipulate others to vote as Bush/Cheney bid.

[truedelphi]

21. The "Fair Lady's" time is spent with the George Schultzes

At the Opera and the after Opera parties here in San Francisco.

At election time, when she needs our votes, She uses photo ops with her cute little grand kids to get the messsage across that she is human.

But she is a GHOUL.

[pink-o]

48. She screwed this city and the gay community so bad when she was mayor...

...a job she got because some crazy homophobe killed the real mayor and a gay city councilman back in 78. I swear, I don't know how she even ended up in a political career after her shenanigans here.

Remember when Michael Huffington, Arianna's still-in-the-closet husband ran against her for the senate? We all circled the wagons around her, just to get someone with a D after their name into that seat. Now I wonder if we wouldn't have been better with Michael. He could have eventually come out, resigned the seat and supported his newly liberal ex-wife for it.

We could've had Senator Arianna. Instead we got the stupid DINO witch who looks like Dear Abby.

[truedelphi]

50. Wasn't in the Bay Area till 1981, and

wasn't political till late eighties.

Appreciate hearing your report on things. Di has always made it sound like she was
everyone's choice to take over - she sure doesn't mention that sometimes assassination brings
the un-desired players into play.

[opihimoimoi]

8. Both are worst than Whale Shit.....and lower as well....

How the Fuck Could they???

Approve Torture??? Don't they realize the consequences??? I guess not...

I say, we don't need no stinking fools in the Senate....and both are FOOLs...

[Mike03]

9. I still can't believe Schumer is a sell out.

I just can't believe it.

[derby378]

11. Well, he DID come within a hair's breadth of supporting Lieberman over Lamont...

:mad:

[Mike03]

19. Fill me in. I'm unable to keep up with every thing.

I just respected Schumer so much. This is a huge disappointment== just the latest in many, I suppose.

[derby378]

20. Here ya go - from the NATIONAL JOURNAL archives

Schumer said that the DSCC "fully supports" Sen. Joe Lieberman in his primary bid, and he refused to rule out continuing that support if Lieberman were to run as an independent.

There were degrees of independence, Schumer said. "You can run as an independent, you can run as an independent Democrat who pledges to vote for Harry Reid as Majority Leader."

Schumer said he had neither sought nor recieved assurances from Lieberman that an independent bid would not ensue if Ned Lamont tightened the noose.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/06/post_14.html

[Mike03]

22. Fuck, excuse my profanity

Anyone who fully supports Joe Lieberman I cannot respect in any way.

One more disappointment. I don't know how many more I can take.

Maybe it really is time to give up and just go into the woods, live in a cabin and lay low.

[derby378]

25. On the other hand, it just makes me more determined...

...to help take the party out of the hands of the compromisers and put it in the hands of those who actually give a damn about what's going on in America.

[dogindia]

10. K&R. The shame rises from the ashes. NYC is shamed.

I probably have never been so mad and ashamed. These people are not democrats. They are worms eating their own bodies up.

[Swamp Rat]

13. *&)%#^$*@!!!!!!!!

:grr:

[derby378]

14. Couldn't have said it better myself

:hi:

[Imagevision]

15. Human Rights Watch said Schumer and Feinstein's support for Mukasey is extremely disappointing

Mukasey appears more interested in protecting administration officials from possible prosecution than in providing a straight answer on the law - hardly the kind of independent legal adviser that America needs

``This is an extremely difficult decision,'' Schumer, D-N.Y., said in a statement, adding that Mukasey ``is not my ideal choice.'' -- Schumer what a fucking waste!?! some Dems are repugs...

[Mike03]

26. It's so hard to believe

Schumer was one of the very few politicians I trusted completely.

I really am tempted to give the fuck up. I'm fucking sick of this.

For the first time in my life, I'm thinking maybe it is better to be totally ignorant, stupid, uneducated, and to bury my head in the sand, and live for the moment rather than think of the future.

It's hard to even care sometimes.

[derby378]

27. But you DO care...

You wouldn't be among like-minded individuals on a site like this if you didn't.

[Mike03]

28. Yes I care. I'm obsessed with politics and what is happening

to my beloved country, but it is ruining my health, my mind, everything. I don't trust any politicians anymore. People here have convinced me it hardly matters who I vote for anymore.

I'm sure I'll be fine, I'm just getting so... lost... right now.

[young_at_heart]

16. As a former Feinstein supporter I am sick!

As a lifelong Californian (until recently) I wholeheartedly supported Feinstein---I am speechless at her deception.

[derby378]

18. I feel for you...

It's a hard thing indeed to speak like this about long-standing Democrats, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

[kenfrequed]

44. Holy Frijoles!

A lifelong Feinstein supporter?

Even when she was merely running for mayor of San Francisco she was a corporate Democrat. Jello Biafra (formerly of the Dead Kennedy's-back when they were a real band) ran against her and you can hear his side of the story on his CD "I blow minds for a living."

It also has his award winning spoken word thingee "Die for Oil Sucker" which was as relevant in 1990 as it was in 2003 or today for that matter.

[juno jones]

59. uber alles california... n/t

[kenfrequed]

64. yeah

After the Gropenfuhrer (minus the umlaut-sorry can't find it on the keyboard) I thought that Jello should redo "California Ubber alles" Sadly his old retarded band still clings to those tattered rags hoping to cash in.

[Pastiche423]

17. No mercy!

Neither one deserves an once of mercy.

[bdamomma]

23. Damn both of them!!

why do they keep kissing *'s ass because * and Cheney do not deserve shit, * spoiled rich fratboy, keeps on fucking us over and over again, he is going to veto SCHIP again, and they give him his AG choice, what total BS, now is this the straw that broke the backs of Americans who care at all what is happening in the country. God, they are playing us like fools!!! Aren't we tired of being battered and abused? I know I am, fuck * and Cheney.

[lonestarnot]

38. Here here!

Fucking twits would standbye at American working class firing squad. Waterboarding is apparently they torture of choice.

[Gregorian]

29. Thank you. That is exactly what it is.

You've spoken my mind so well.

Be gone, you fools. You do not represent us.

[bonito]

30. You all have to realize the DLC are neocons

Their think tank is the progressive (think patriot) policy institute, born of the same people as the PNAC.

[bvar22]

31. just saying:

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[AuntPatsy]

33. I would say it a bit differently, may God grant them the same mercy they deem approprite for others.

[upi402]

34. I remember getting flamed for saying we need a REAL Democratic party

I mean my ass got chewed.

It's good to see I'm not alone in seeing that we need an opposition party to the corporate elite parties ruling what WAS our republic.

[derby378]

36. Hey, it happens to me, too...

I've been telling people on DU for the longest time to get off their butts and actually get involved in the party. I took my own advice and became a precinct chair and state delegate down here in Texas. We cannot change the party unless we become an actual part of it.

[upi402]

65. So true

I was a DCCM and a delegate multiple times. Also a delegate for the state labor convention. We were sold out to NAFTA and corporate Dems.

I used to take heat for my 'hair-on-fire' claims that the media was corporate propaganda and shifting the USA to the right.
"Liberal media" this & that was all I heard back. I was a tinfoil hatter even on "liberal" boards.

effemall if their heads are up their asses. We may deserve what we get, after all. We keep playing 'us Vs. them', 'Dems Vs. Repugs'. But it's a rigged game and one owner owns both franchises and the broadcaster too.

[Seabiscuit]

35. Their souls deserve waterboarding without mercy.

[D23MIURG23]

40. This is exactly the kind of scum ruining our country and party.

Traitors to party is right. Traitors to country as well.

Anyone know of any primary challenges?

[derby378]

63. Not until 2010, I'm afraid...

That's when Schumer's up for re-election. We're stuck with the Feinosaur until 2012 unless we find some way to chase her back to her mansion in San Francisco.

[D23MIURG23]

66. Feinosaur... LMAO

:rofl:

first time ive ever heard that one.

[stillrockin]

41. I despise them both.

I shook hands once with Feinstein at an EMILY's List luncheon. Wish I could take it back.

[Usrename]

42. Traitors!!

Heads on pikes!!!

[downindixie]

43. No mercy for them

Hit them hard and hit them heavy! Make them regret their decision! Enought already!

[tavalon]

45. Why exactly should this God you mention

have mercy on their sorry asses? They didn't choose to have mercy on us and the many folks being tortured in our name.

[opihimoimoi]

49. Yeah, FUCK THE MERCY SHIT,,,,and they have no Souls to speak of...

instead they have shit for brains and crap for souls

Traitors

Pro Torture

and the sin of trying to BS us with moot crap....

They should be nekkid and wired to 12 volt batteries connected to their privates...that oughta teach um...

[Mad_Dem_X]

51. AMEN to that!

SHAME on both of them!

[FreepFryer]

52. Cut to the chase, beyond all the 'God' and 'souls' stuff, Schumer lost my vote. (n/t)

[proud2BlibKansan]

53. Amen

Democrats like this we don't need.

[femrap]

54. May Goddess NOT have mercy on

your pathetic enabling, corrupt, WTF are you thinking of souls!

We are the soviet union now.

[liberation]

55. it's time for a 3rd party, or an overhaul of the republi to turn it into a representative democracy

I am tired of having to compromise between GOP and GOP-lite.

I am a liberal, and I feel no shame towards that. If the Democratic party doesn't want to represent me, fine. They should however stop assuming that my vote will be there for them in the future.

As far as I am concerned I am done with the Democratic machine laughing at my face. I have better things to do with my money and time than support this bunch of bozos.

Anyone who feels like sharing how the Dems are the only choice because they are not as bad as the GOP. Please spare me the bullshit, OK? The best part of a fece is still that: shit. I don't particularly enjoy the smell of shit, I don't want to find out what it tastes like, and I most definitively don't feel like wallowing in it. So I will move elsewhere in the political spectrum that does not reek. Thanks....

[derby378]

70. Like I keep saying over and over again...

If you want to transform the Democratic Party into what it was always meant to be, GET OFF YOUR ASS. Become a precinct chair. Become a state delegate. Start writing resolutions for the precinct convention NOW. The primaries will be here before you know it. Gird your loins and get ready to hit the trenches in '08.

[BuyingThyme]

56. kcik

[sallyseven]

57. Send them an e-mail. Don't be shy.

Tell them what you think. I did. Is Mukasey Jewish???

[WindRavenX]

60. yes. Orthodox.

NT

[Elspeth]

58. Both of you had a chance to save some shreds of our democracy

You both are traitors to the Constitution.

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[JohnLocke]

68. Fuck you.

[Malikshah]

67. Forget the Traitors to the Party line-- They are traitors to the country

As is anyone who supports torture.

Why? Here are the reasons.

1) Doesn't work. Proven countless times and reiterated repeatedly by those in the know.

Torture is purely a means to display power and cruelty.

It is one of the most ineffective methods employed to gather intelligence.

2) No need for any more reasons. The first is clear enough.

[deacon]

69. k + r