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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:12 AM Original message |
The Immigration Issue -the hard questions...... |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. Here in AZ, there are many whom I am acquainted with who |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I think a lot of us can't be pigeonholed in a box |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. Amnesty for illegal aliens is opposed by the majority of voters in Alabama. n/t |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. it is opposed by the border states, also. nt |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. Campaigning on immigration is the same as campaigning on crime |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
4. This polling contridicts your argument. |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I am unclear as to how that poll applies to this issue? n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. The level of interest that you posit among Democratic voters |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. No, I may have been unclear on the demographics, let me clear that up... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Now I see. That's right. Independent voters seem to be more |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
7. Legal immigrants generally oppose amnesty, privileges for people here illegally |
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williesgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
11. I keep saying this is the ONE issue that could cause us to lose in 08, it's already |
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trayfoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Right on, williesgirl! |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
13. Man you lay it out then attack anyone who disagrees with you even before they say anything. |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. deleted on purpose |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. not at all, what I am saying is... |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. So one must take the Republican position to avoid a Republican win? |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. My state has taken many Somali, Ethiopian,Liberian and Hmong.... |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. And that says little about overall immigration policy |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Well, you are making absolute statements and generalizations... |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
15. Here is my real reply. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Not in San Diego. Immigration is why Francine Busby LOST her election here... |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. EXCELLENT! Absolutely first class response....THANK YOU!!!!! |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. the idea of bringing the "undocumented" into her campaign emerged right here on DU! |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
43. San Diego is republican and not representative of the whole state or the nation |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Thom Hartmann isn't though, and he echoes the original poster and my concerns... |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I'm sorry but I just can't buy your ideas because I don't believe you are being honest. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I already HAVE lost a job due to H-1B Visa workers! |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. H-1 has northing to do with illegal immigrants and you did not lose your job to them |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:04 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Removing H-1B Visa caps WAS in the Senate immigration bill! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. How do you know she lost? Hastert swore in Bilbray without regard |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Good point, but it wouldn't have even been close without immigration... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I agree that the situation just allows all workers to be exploited. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I agree, we need to focus more on the root causes of the problem... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. The good news is that while BushCo has been insanely |
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MLFerrell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
18. You're forgetting about one key demographic. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
19. OnTheIssues reports CA, TX, NY, FL, IL have 80% of illegal aliens. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
20. Cool, let's send 12 million people to the camps so we can win an election! |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Candidates win elections by taking positions the voters support. Parties get political power by |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. This reasoning is why Texas politicans are AFRAID to touch the death penalty issue |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Last time I checked, a democracy is a government where 50% of the votes +1 make the law. Our |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. ... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I agree re Lincoln but he knew what it takes to get elected, he received 39.8% of the popular vote. |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. promoting xenophobia |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. What does Xenophobia the fear or contempt of foreigners or strangers and people have to do with the |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The public's focus should be placed squarely on |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. OK, they are here illegally and should be arrested and dealt with as the law requires. Is that |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. .. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Thanks for the exchange. Do you have a link showing that our immigration quotas are not being met & |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. ... |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Immigration processing 'cooked' numbers |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
28. I have a problem with your math. |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. They lose if they pursue latino votes with the amnesty carrot! n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
53. It's not a big deal |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
55. So you support the Wall? |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
56. I think you're wrong. |
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