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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:22 PM Original message |
Candidates that support giving drivers licenses to illegal immigrants are unelectable. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. Um, what? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Neither do I. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Which spot would that be? After they've already had an accident? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Yes |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. "Any other unlicensed driver" is not unlicensed because they were actively |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. No one is forced to get a license. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Withholding licenses doesn't keep them off the roads. |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. Wrong, unlicensed drivers pose a major threat on our roads, this is about regulation |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:25 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Licensed drivers are an even more severe threat and 80% are licensed |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #55 |
69. You don't understand the point of the article. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #46 |
67. yes, they need a drivers ed course to prevent accidents. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. You're right. I want them to have enough skills to pass the driver's test. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Who has more accidents, licensed drivers or unlicensed drivers? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Unlicensed. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
54. Wrong. 80% licensed between 1993 and 1997 |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. I hardly know where to begin. You've completely misunderstood your own data. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
72. Me too. But I also doubt many illegal immigrants would opt to risk identification through |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Well no, it happened to me and they collected her car. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. The police don't come here when you've just had a fender bender. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. You ask the other person for a drivers license. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Oh, I see. And you think the cops would arrive before the |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #40 |
56. Sucker |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. You're the one who suggested calling for police. You're not making sense. n/t |
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Purveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Um, what? |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I want us to work with other countries to help them raise their living |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. Agreed. n/t |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Exactly - I want to know who hit me. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah, that's the number one issue. Yup. Uh huh. Really matters sooo much. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I live in NY and it's a disaster. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
5. Clinton did not say she supported giving licenses to illegals. She |
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journalist3072 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Exactly....I've been making that point here on DU all night |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
39. If they want to help the Republican spin, I guess that's their choice. |
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journalist3072 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:56 AM Response to Reply #39 |
63. And right aagain you are.....It's pathetic; they are doing the Rethugs job for them |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #63 |
77. We know they watch our site, I'm sure they have enjoyed the Hillary |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
7. in Kal-fornia Arnold will really push that issue nt |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. If it's true what your saying, that Clinton and Obama support that, |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. Oh, please. Illegal immigrants have been a boon to this country despite what |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
15. I thought Dodd was the only one who said he was against it. nt |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
16. I think she had a good answer. Who wants to be in an accident with |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. So if 14 year old kids start driving illegally, we should go ahead... |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
17. If someone can give me a realistic reason why we should do that, |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Why would they want to drive illegally and potentially unsafely, |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. How about NO MONEY? |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. What does insurance have to do with actually avoiding accidents? |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Ohhh, BS! I can tell you I passed my drivers test the firwt time I took it. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #44 |
70. Some states have easier tests than others. Plenty of people fail them, |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. What good does it do NOT to do this? Are they going to stop driving? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Who's assuming they are driving? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #28 |
49. Please. Last year I drove through a fine ol' Nebraska blizzard and |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Oh I see. Just breaking another law. No big deal huh? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #36 |
50. OK, sooo...we just ignore the problem, and it goes away...gotcha. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:32 AM Response to Reply #50 |
59. I never said ignore the problem. I'm all for imprisoning the |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Why? I'd rather have the roads filled with people who have passed |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. Truest me, you got lucky! I used to work for an insurance Co. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I do realize |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
25. Thank God I'm not running. I favor an open border. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. lol |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #25 |
47. Too bad America is far to racist to elect you. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #47 |
76. Out of curiosity: Which countries (outside failed states like Somalia) have open borders? |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. Check out post 84 by LanternWaste, sums up my opinion, I see the world different then you bud. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
84. Victor Hugo once wrote something to the effect of... |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
30. I don't think this is a bad idea. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
42. Agree 100%--an illegal hit a woman downtown where I live and she died |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Under the theory that not having a license would have somehow stopped her from driving? |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. No, but it would have rewarded breaking our laws. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #52 |
79. Have YOU ever violated a law? Speeding? Cheated on taxes? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
57. Would having a license prevent the accident? |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. It didn't in this instance, but as a general rule, if licenses aren't |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:34 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. More licenses, more accidents. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #61 |
73. Plain, simple, and a gross distortion of the statistics. |
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Tactical Progressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
48. Well, it IS the 7,843rd most important issue in America |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
51. It's a hot button issue the repukes will run with. I personally |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:23 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Not quite. |
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Tactical Progressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #51 |
62. I agree |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
58. We've gotten off track that if you support a candidate that supports this, you support a loser |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
66. Lou Dobbs has been sputtering about it for past week----half hour each day |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
68. It's completely illogical to argue that extending licenses will compel illegal aliens to insure |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Different states have laws with different penalties. n/t |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Per Eliot Spitzer, NY's penalties are insufficient to prevent illegals from driving. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
71. I dunno about unelectable, but it seems very poorly thought out to me. |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
78. Can your crystal ball tell me the winning lotto numbers |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Over 65% opposition in NY |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
80. Have you got stats to back that up? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. 72% oppose in 1 poll. 65% in another. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. That doesn't support what you said. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. "In a Siena College poll released today, 72% of voters said they were opposed to Spitzer's plan." |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. The part where they wouldn't vote for a candidate who supported it. |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
87. The problem isn't giving someone a license to drive |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
89. Here's a Halloween Costume for You |
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