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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:22 PM
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The problem with Hillary as prez is that the Clinton's are the Bush crime families favorite dems
Bill is the son that Poppy always wanted. The Clinton's go out of their way to play nice with the Bush family. Can we really believe that if Hillary is elected that the fundamental thrust of our government will change? True, she is much smarter than the chimp, but then so is a nat. But will the fundamentals of the war change? when she can't even gurantee we will be out of Iraq by 2013? It will be Clinton II all over--incrimental change nothing substative. Triangulization politics at its worst. Then Laura will run for the Senate in Texas and probably win--and if Hillary serves two terms they will try and thrust Laura down our throats in 2016--with the schrub as first chimp.

The Bush-Clinton dynasty that the powers that be want for this country must end--and the best way to begin is to nominate somebody other than Hillary in 2008.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:25 PM
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1. OMG... Gag me with a spoon... More of the same forever... Thats not...
a good thing for sure.. and it will be war, war and more war.. So where does this money come from to support this?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:28 PM
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2. Oh, please. How many times is this overused propaganda gonna show up?
Not one original thought in the whole mess.

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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:31 PM
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3. like your response.
Edited on Tue Oct-30-07 11:33 PM by book_worm
Bill was the best GOP president this country has had since Ike. Hillary would be the second best.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:33 PM
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5. What I would really like you to tell me is what does your candidate...
bring that is worthy of a vote? I see more war, probably with Iran on the next go around, more pandering to the Corporations... There's nothing new here and I see the American people (even though most are still asleep) being the losers...
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:33 PM
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4. How long did it take you to come up with this masterpiece?
:sarcasm:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:37 PM
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7. So what is Hillary's plan to get out of Iraq before the end of her first term?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:36 PM
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6. Big Dog has been going out of his way to kiss up to GWB lately.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:38 PM
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8. Of course the Clinton's need to keep the corporate masters happy
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:40 PM
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9. yeah. i see no reason to believe that hillary will fight the corporations.
they own her, just like they own bush.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:43 PM
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10. because the clintons are courteous and gracious hillary can't be president?
jeez louise that has to be the dumbest argument ever offered

like it or not, * is sitting his naked primate ass in the white house, and it behooves the clintons to use what little influence with the b.f.e.e. they can (which isn't much) to alter some of the shit that's going down

poppy bush carries a lot of guilt for what he did (nothing) in andrew and if he is working with bill today to help disaster victims to clean his karma, at least disaster victims are getting helped

not seeing how any of this disqualifies hillary from the top slot
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:47 PM
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11. I guess you missed the part about offering the same as what we got in Iraq
and what changes will be made will be minor and in league with what Bill did as president--by giving us NAFTA and Welfare Reform. Just more of the same.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:51 PM
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12. like it or not we're in iraq now
what do you suggest we do, pull out and let iran or al qaeda have the entire country that we have crippled and disarmed?

reality is that a timeline in iraq is not so easily given and i'm not going to crap on hillary for being a realist

it's cheap and easy to say "pull out now," but it's just crazy
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:54 PM
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13. yep, I see that Hillary is also supporting the WH line on Iran
and I'm sure she will vote with them to go into there if she gets the opportunity.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:59 PM
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14. we're not going into iran
you're running scared of ghosts


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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:51 AM
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15. The one thing the Iraqis would hate more than us being there is
Iran being there. They've hated each other for generations. Iran will NEVER have any serious influence in Iraq, once we leave. As for AQ, just how big do you think they are? What's the current estimate? 2500 in Iraq? Out of 25 million? How would they ever take over?

You've bought into Bush's propaganda.

The only way out is to get out. Now. Unconditionally.

Once we're out, we shell out big bucks to whoever gets hold of the government to help them rebuild.
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