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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:11 PM
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To every theist outraged or befuddled at the UFO question....
You know that feeling you felt when you heard that question asked? That "What in the hell?" feeling? That "How dare he ask such an inane, idiotic question" feeling? That feeling of your eyes rolling so far into the back of your head that you might be looking at your brain?

That's how we rational people feel every single time a political candidate is asked about his/her religious beliefs. And the audience doesn't laugh when the candidate answers those questions..

Because belief in UFO's, ghosts, aliens, ESP, or any other such thing and religious belief are all based on the same thing: Nothing. No facts, no evidence, no rationality. Just willful ignorance, ritual, superstition, and stupidity.

I'm glad you guys got to feel it for a change.
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:12 PM
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1. I completely, completely agree.
A question about UFOs is totally inappropriate to ask a presidential candidate. It demeans the entire forum. Same with a question on religion. And that's why I loved Obama's answer--we have real problems here on real Earth with real people. Let's talk about those.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:18 PM
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2. Obama's best moment of the night. NT
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:44 PM
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7. I can't believe I'm reading that a question about *UFOs* was asked at the debate tonight
:banghead:
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:21 PM
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3. Oh, completely disagree about the broad brush
Not it had no place in the debate.
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:22 PM
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4. I dont like Russert at all.
No I detest him
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:27 PM
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5. Nothing?
Edited on Tue Oct-30-07 10:30 PM by Duppers
I agree with your reference to a candidate's religious beliefs. It should be a 'WTF' question.
Yes, I'm a rationalist.

But UFO's are based on nothing? Then you disagree with these men:

October 30, 2007
Top Eight Presidential Encounters of the Third Kind

1. Dennis Kucinich has felt a connection:
Writes Shirley Maclaine of her old friend: "He had a close sighting over my home in Graham, Washington, when I lived there. Dennis found his encounter extremely moving. The smell of roses drew him out to my balcony where, when he looked up, he saw a gigantic triangular craft, silent, and observing him. It hovered, soundless, for ten minutes or so, and sped away with a speed he couldn't comprehend. He said he felt a connection in his heart and heard directions in his mind."

2. Rudy Giuliani has a strategy in case of an alien invasion:
"Of all the things that can happen in this world, we'll be prepared for that, yes we will. We'll be prepared for anything that happens."

3. Bill Richardson is determined to uncover the Roswell mystery:
Answering questions at a townhall meeting Friday, a Dell employee asked Richardson about the 1947 incident in which many people still believe a flying saucer landed near the eastern New Mexico town.
I've been in government a long time, I've been in the cabinet, I've been in the Congress and I've always felt that the government doesn't tell the truth as much as it should on a lot of issues," said Richardson, who is governor of New Mexico.

4. Ronald Reagan spotted a UFO from his plane window
I was in a plane last week when I looked out the window and saw this white light. It was zigzagging around. I went up to the pilot and said, 'Have you ever seen anything like that?' He was shocked and he said, 'Nope.' And I said to him: 'Let's follow it!' We followed it for several minutes. It was a bright white light. We followed it to Bakersfield, and all of a sudden to our utter amazement it went straight up into the heavens. When I got off the plane I told Nancy all about it. But we didn't file a report on the object because for a long time they considered you a nut if you saw a UFO.

5. Jimmy Carter's UFO sighting prompted him to run for President
"I don't laugh at people any more when they say they've seen UFOs, Carter said at a Southern Governors Conference a few years ago. "I've seen one myself. It was the darndest thing I've ever seen. It was big, it was very bright, it changed colors and it was about the size of the moon.. We watched it for ten minutes, but none of us could figure out what it was. One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. I think it was a light beckoning me to run in the California primary. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information that this country has about UFO sightings available to the public."

6. John F. Kennedy incorporated alien threat into his defence plan
The US Airforce assures me that UFO's pose no threat to National Security.

7. Harry S. Truman put great thought into the mechanics behind UFOs
I can assure you that flying saucers, given that they exist, are not constructed by any power on earth.

8. Gerald Ford opened up the floor for extra-terrestrial debate
No doubt, you have noted the recent flurry of newspaper stories about unidentified flying objects. I have taken special interest in these accounts because many of the latest reported sightings have been in my home state of Michigan... Because I think there may be substance to some of these reports and because I believe the American people are entitled to a more thorough explanation than has been given them by the Air Force to date, I am proposing that either the Science and Astronautics Committee or the Armed Services Committee of the House schedule hearings on the subject of UFOs and invite testimony from both the executive branch of the Government and some of the persons who claim to have seen UFOs.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2007/10/presidential-en.html



Yes, I've seen one. So?
However, I do think it was a totally inappropriate question in a presidential debate.





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metalpurist83 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:39 PM
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6. good call
nonsense has no place in politics.

on the other hand - he did answer the question.
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:00 AM
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8. Tweety was just being a smart alert by asking that question
And he showed disrespect toward the candidates by asking that question.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:05 AM
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9. this is actually true
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 12:07 AM by pitohui
altho i've had the religious experience too and came out the other side, but yeah, it is most annoyting to see religion constantly inserted into the political realm

people who are pointing fingers at UFOs and yet believe some guy was killed and rose up again 3 days later (in that rare circumstance where 3 days was only the 39 hours between 3 PM Friday afternoon and 6 AM Sunday morning which in normal circumstances is not even quite a full 2 days), well, come on, people, get over yourself
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:11 AM
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10. UFOs does not equal sci fi. That was just a smartass trick
a M$Mbot used to hurt Dennis. Kinda like in 2004 and Dean. Corporate can't handle a DK type figure in the WH. Would ruin their plans for stealing even more money. Ditto Dean in 2004.

UFOs? God? If you see something flying and you cannot figure out what it is, guess what. You just saw a UFO. Or God, take your pick. Maybe an angel. Maybe a ghost. Whatever floats your crazy ass boat.

BFD.

Hey M$Mbots, stop slobbering over your picked candidates - it is disgusting.

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