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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 02:14 PM
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"It is dangerous to hope that the absolutely worst Republican gets the nomination" LINK
Rosenberg sums it up correctly here. There is a very real danger in the strategy of hoping we get Giuliani to run against, given the possibility of a domestic terror attack between now and the general election which he would attempt to manipulate for political gain.

He is also correct to point out that all the "national polls of Democrats" can taken from now until the Democratic Nomination is decided, and it will not change the fact that high percentages(near 50%) of the total voting population 'will never vote for Hillary' in the General Election, and 35% saying the same about Obama.

Edwards is the strongest General Election Democratic Candidate the Democratic Party could field as its nominee, but is currently polled at 3rd among Democrats nationally.

Read the whole piece at the link below.


http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2007/oct/24/romney_best_of_a_bad_bunch

"Romney: Best of a Bad Bunch"

By M.J. Rosenberg | bio

Steve Clemons, who I admire, writes that the very idea of Rudy Giuliani as Republican nominee makes him salivate, especially when he considers the group of madmen who advise Rudy on foreign policy. Not me. If I was a praying type, I'd pray that Giuliani is not the nominee.

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"....I'm just saying that it is dangerous to hope that the absolutely worst Republican gets the nomination. With near 50% of the electorate saying they would not, under any circumstance, vote for Hillary and 35% saying the same about Obama, do we really want to gamble with our future like that?

Fact is, I wish the Republicans had an Eisenhower to nominate. I prefer an election where both candidates are good, decent and smart so that America and the world does not lose no matter who wins.

I still like Jimmy Carter's old slogan, "Why Not the Best?" The idea of "Why Not the Worst?" is terrifying although the "worst" is very possibly what we are going to get."

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 02:25 PM
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1. Hmmm... Adlai vs Ike. Been a while since we had...
an election like that where we wouldn't get nervous no matter who won.

It's been bothering me for a long time that out of at least a hundred million eligible possibilities we can't come up with an Adlai and they can't come up with anything close to Ike.


Yeah, Jimmy, why not the best? Are we just getting what we deserve?



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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:50 PM
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4. I have said the same thing about Romney here on DU--that he's the
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 03:51 PM by wienerdoggie
least scary out of the lot, because he isn't all that wedded to any convictions--he's, uh, FLEXIBLE (to put flip-floppery in a different light). Sure, he's charmless and oily, and says dumb things--but he's not driven by religion (Huckabee) or deep-seated hawkery (McCain and Rudy), and is fairly cautious and at least intelligent enough to be a decent "manager". I agree with this guy's take. I don't know why Steve Clemons thinks that Rudy wouldn't have a prayer--Clemons seems to think that people will be offended by all the neocons on his staff. Most Americans don't know what a "neocon" is.

oops edit--meant to reply to OP!
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 06:39 PM
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5. You could have a NeoCon Family Reunion with all of them advising Rudy....
Rudy is Bush's only hope to have a succeeding president that is worse than him, and makes him look good in comparison.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:01 PM
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2. It all depends on the meaning of best. For many GOPers
Rudy is their best hope.

Rudy (through the eyes of rank and file voters) including to my
chagrin, some rank and file Democrats is very appealing. He has
a strong take charge image, the 9/11 myth makes him biger than
life. Unfortunately, more voters than not vote on gut insticnt
and emotion. Only activists like us weigh the pros and cons
of each candidate. If he can get through the GOP Primary
He will be a formidable candidate. That old Commander In Chief
argument will be his strong suit.

To those who salivate to run against him--I say you better
throw your dirt out now and take him down now. IMO, after
the Primary will be too late. Frankly, I think a lot of people
are dismissing the dirt. But have at him and do it now.

For those who think the RR can stop him. Just as with GWV they
will horsetrade, getting some demands met--they will then get
in line and fight for Rudy.

Yes, I think Romeny has a good chance at the Nomination--but
he is having to work awfully hard.

Underestimate the GOP at our Peril.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:50 PM
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3. This is one GOP run where the top 3 are all seriously flawed....
... and none of the 3 may get a majority.

Although the odds are tremendously against it, but in comparison to past Repub Nomination races, the race this cycle could result in a brokered convention with a present non-candidate becoming the nominee.

This situation could favor Jeb Bush, especially if Hillary is the Democratic Nominee running against them. However, there are many other Repubs who could exert enough clout to have their names enter the mix.

That could be a Repub Nominating convention to remember.
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