1300 Homes Lost in Calif Fires So Far... Where will they go after the fires burn out?

[Blackhatjack]

They can't live at Qualcomm Stadium on an extended basis, and they cannot afford to live in hotels for extended periods of time either.

Hope someone is thinking about this one ... where to put all the displaced Calif residents(which has been estimated at 500k - 750k)

And I hope they remember how badly relocation was carried out after Katrina.

[TomInTib]

1. Just wait until they start jamming those folks into FEMA trailers. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. That is when you move from the acute phase of a disaster

to your extended disaster

They have been incredible with the acute phase

But there are always issues in dealing with the rebuilding

Hell, some folks had just finished rebuilding from the Cedaer fire...

That was what, three years ago?

[SoCalDem]

3. There IS a big difference here.

MOST of the people who were burned out have decent jobs, and there are many places they can rent until their insurance issues are ironed out..

Most of the truly dispossessed in NOLA were brutally poor and many unemployed.

You do NOT live in a nice house in a canyon development without significant resources.

Some of these people are probably deeply in debt and will NOW be poor, but before the fire they were probably muddling through.

NOLA people lost services, jobs AND housing.. These people mostly lost only the housing..

[Blackhatjack]

4. IS THAT TRUE? "...there are many places they can rent..."

With housing foreclosures up, there are bound to be fewer rental units available as people who moved out of their homes had to go somewhere.

I can see the resources observation as being valid.

However, many homeowners' insurance policies probably did not have 'replacement coverage.' So many will not have the funds to rebuild the same kind of home that they lost, especially if the deductibles are high.

[Liberty Belle]

6. True, the game last time was to use your coverage for belongings

(furniture etc) and apply that to at least get a home built.

A lot of people lived without furnishings or with scrounged items for a long time in order to get roofs over their heads.

[MindPilot]

7. The laws changed after the Cedar fires and

homeowners polices are fairly standard; most cover replacement and code upgrade along with living expenses up to two years if the home is a total loss.

The renters are the ones who are truly fucked.

[Liberty Belle]

5. There are many poor people who lost homes, especially in East County.

A trailer park in Potrero burned down, for instance. Many people in the rural areas live in small old homes or trailers. There are also apartments that burned in some of the more urban neighborhoods.

Not everyone has jobs, either. There are a lot of retirees who are displaced as well as families with kids.

Nearly half the people who lost homes in the 2003 fire have never been able to rebuild, mostly because of underinsurance or hassles with insurance companies. Some had no insurance at all.

[SoCalDem]

8. That's true, BUT there are places to rent and even though some may have to move

they will be able to get help.. California is NOT Louisiana....

They may have to go to Riverside county or to an apartment, but they will find shelter.

and no one will put them on a bus and send them to Idaho..

[Liberty Belle]

9. Some faced eviction from FEMA trailers off their own land

after the Cedar Fire. All were not treated equally, and some remained destitute.

San Diegans' treatments of fellow residents was better than in New Orleans, but FEMA's response was shameful here - a sneak preview of coming horrors in NO.

[LittleClarkie]

11. It's such a large area, how can you be sure that most are at least middle class

I've seen some depressed areas in CA. I grant you, most of those were in San Bernadino and Riverside. But my sister was a manager with my brother in law in San Diego, and the complex was not a rich one. They paid a pretty penny to live there, and to me it was lower middle class at best. Amazed me at what they got for what they paid. I can only assume that wages are higher there. But I couldn't see how they would get ahead. Indeed, why would one be living in an apartment complex in the first place if they had the ways and means to live elsewhere.

I bet there are plenty of people who are going to be hurting who do NOT have the ways and means to start over.

I guess I'm having trouble thinking that these are ONLY canyon developments housing rich people.

It looks huge on the map. And I know there are homeless in that area. Tons of them. They are fucked. I hope someone is caring for them.

They weren't dirt poor, I'm sure. But alot of them did not live in a nice house, I bet.

[SoCalDem]

14. To be sure, many will suffer for a long time, but there is no comparison with what NOLA

residents went through.. It would be awful to lose everything you have, but most of these people did not lose their jobs and family support system. people WILL help them..they may never be 100%, but they are still better than the circumstances that the poor people in NOLA went through..

[133724]

10. New Orleans????????

[donheld]

12. 9th Ward????????

:shrug:

[Beerboy]

13. I'm sure most are safely back Out East. n/t.