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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:50 AM
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"Police ‘must stop more black people’" (UK)
:wow:

Note: all boldfaces mine

More people from ethnic minorities must be stopped and searched if Britain is to win the fight against violent inner-city gun and knife crime, one of the country’s top black police officers has said.

Keith Jarrett, president of the National Black Police Association, is expected to make a speech this week calling for an increase in stop-and-searches in black communities.

He told The Observer: “A lot of black people want to stop these killings, these knife crimes, and if it means their sons and daughters are going to be inconvenienced by being stopped by the police, so be it.”

The association, which represents thousands of officers from ethnic minorities, has previously questioned the high proportion of black people stopped and searched. The tactic was blamed for precipitating the race riots of the 1980s.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2709022.ece


Call to increase stop and search

More young people should be stopped and searched to help tackle knife and gun crime, a leading black police representative says.

Keith Jarrett, the outgoing president of the National Black Police Association (NBPA), said he would be pressing police for such an approach.

He said: "The black community is telling me we have to look at this."

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Black people are six times more likely to be stopped than white people, according to Home Office figures.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7054917.stm



And all of this is from the PRESIDENT of the National Black Police Association????



Any day now I guess he'll advocate for aborting all black babies to cut the crime rate!

...radio host and former Reagan administration Secretary of Education Bill Bennett dismissed such "far-reaching, extensive extrapolations" by declaring that if "you wanted to reduce crime ... if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down." Bennett conceded that aborting all African-American babies "would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do," then added again, "but the crime rate would go down."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200509280006



This is getting disgusting in the UK. Over four million police-monitored security cameras watching public spaces. Mandatory DNA collections I believe are either being done or are about to be done.

UK 2017: under surveillance

IT is a chilling, dystopian account of what Britain will look like 10 years from now: a world in which Fortress Britain uses fleets of tiny spy-planes to watch its citizens, of Minority Report-style pre-emptive justice, of an underclass trapped in sink-estate ghettos under constant state surveillance, of worker drones forced to take on the lifestyle and values of the mega-corporation they work for, and of the super-rich hiding out in gated communities constantly monitored by cameras and private security guards.

This Orwellian vision of the future was compiled on the orders of the UK's information commissioner - the independent watchdog meant to guard against government and private companies invading the privacy of British citizens and exploiting the masses of information currently held on each and every one of us - by the Surveillance Studies Network, a group of academics.

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The report uses two "protesters", Ben and Aaron, as an example of how police might treat dissenters. When they are taken into custody by private security guards in Westminster, Ben undergoes the usual DNA swab, which is analysed instantaneously, and hands over his ID card for scanning. ID cards are still theoretically voluntary, but not having one makes life almost impossible. Aaron is a refusenik and doesn't own a card. That means he can't apply for a government job or claim benefits or student loans. He can't travel by plane or even train. To make matters worse, Aaron is a young black man - meaning he is deemed a "high category suspect" and is routinely stopped and brought in to the nearest police station for questioning.

Once Ben is released, police monitoring systems piggy-back on his hand-held device to track him as he travels across the city. He's also been put on a communications watchlist which means all his internet and e-mail traffic is saved by his ISP and passed to police. As most phone calls are online now, police also get access to these communications as well.


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http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.1741454.0.uk_2017_under_surveillance.php
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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:54 AM
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1. Add To The List Of Modern Day Offenses
Ho, ho, ho...

First we pioneered the offense of DWB, driving while black.

Now the Brits will take that one step further to include BEWB. Being English While Black.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:03 PM
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2. I'm sorry but that whole Bill Bennett controversy was a distortion.
He wasn't advocating aborting black babies, he was making a hypothetical to argue against abortion. Bennet's a jerk, but come on.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:12 PM
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3. It was racist and stupid, regardless of advocacy
He could have more accurately replaced "black people" with "poor people" and not gotten all racially involved.

And so could this Keith Jarrett person.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:28 PM
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4. Or he could have replaced "black people" with
"rich old GOPers".
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:01 PM
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6. true, or males.
all three of those groups have a higher incidence of crime than average. I agree it was a poor way to put it; I just thought the feeding frenzy it started was a bit overwrought.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:47 PM
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5. Reduced policing in black communities here
created the call from black communities for increased sentencing and intervention.
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