WH Site....Bush speech Up.....

[bluedog]

Q A lot of our allies in Europe do a lot of business with Iran, so I wonder what your thoughts are about how you further tighten the financial pressure on Iran, in particular, if it also means economic pain for a lot of our allies?

THE PRESIDENT: It's an interesting question. One of the problems -- not specifically on this issue, just in general -- let's put it this way, money trumps peace, sometimes. In other words, commercial interests are very powerful interests throughout the world. And part of the issue in convincing people to put sanctions on a specific country is to convince them that it's in the world's interest that they forgo their own financial interest.



http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/02/20070214-2.html

[LSK]

1. thanks, i just went looking for it and couldnt find it

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. I hope someone gets a screen shot of it BEFORE they edit that statement.

Once it makes a stink...they WILL edit the speech.

[maggiegault]

19. Done.

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. Excellent. Those words will definitely be scrubbed.

Glad it's saved for posterity.:)

[itsmesgd]

3. I wanted the verbatim speech with all the "um's and uh's"

thanks for the link. I've been waiting for this

[derby378]

4. Oh. My. God.

So this is what Der Fuehrer sounds like when he goes off script.

And this dickweed is supposed to be America's face to the rest of the world.

:cry:

[volstork]

5. "money trumps peace, sometimes"

Hmmmmm, like when one needs to make dirty billions for oneself and ones corrupt cronies? Is that when?

[magellan]

31. Darfur in a nutshell

The smell of oil, and the unconscionable idea that others are getting their hands on it before the US, explains why BushCo keep treating Khartoum with kid gloves.

[bdamomma]

6. So * still manages to show his ignorance again and have a press

conference, I did not see it, so what is his grade on this one? is he still ignoring us?

[itsmesgd]

11. YOU MISSED IT

three words:
Money Trumps Peace

There was also alot of falling over himself and uhh and umm and uhh.

[salin]

7. Then, even if there are sanctions - corps like Halliburton

under CEO Cheney went around the sanctions with both Iran and Iraq - so yes, jr. we know that your admin has first hand experience with this - from even before you took office. Ya'll are just taking it to new heights.

[The_Casual_Observer]

8. Rock paper scissors.. how does it go...

Impeach & Convict & sentence.

[liberal renegade]

Impeach, Indict, Imprison....

[Richard Steele]

37. Peace takes Courage-Courage defies Money-Money trumps Peace?

[SalmonChantedEvening]

9. Huhthewhosayswhatnow?

:wow:

[hobbit709]

10. "money trumps peace"

Finally, he speaks on a subject he knows something about. After all, that appears to be his driving impulse. I never thought I'd actually hear him tell the truth about his actions.

[dsharp88]

12. "These are people that will kill innocent men, women and children to achieve their objective."

He was talking about insurgents, but I immediately thought of his administration.

[frogcycle]

13. he is the titular head of the American Insurgent Movement n/t

[Sydnie]

15. The enemy never stops thinking of ways to hurt out country and

neither do we. Remember when he admitted that little tidbit?

[diane in sf]

21. He's projecting his darkside onto others as usual eom

[Old Smokey]

14. nothing shocks me anymore with these people

they say things like this and go on with their business like nothing is wrong.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

25. What is shocking is that M$M won't mention it after today

They will let that little tidbit fall into the memory hole, while discussing Anna Nicole's estate and bra size for another week.

[johnlal]

16. Most of us make more money in times of peace...

A chosen few make more money in times of war.

WHOSE money trumps peace?

[itsmesgd]

17. the ones who make the bombs and tanks

Come you masters of war....

[Hatalles]

18. He wasn't admitting that money trumps peace in the case of the US Gov't.

Even though it applies much more aptly to us then it does to Europe. IMHO, Bush's biggest slip-up was referring to Iran's Nuclear Program as a "Weapons program." Of course, perhaps this wasn't a slip-up and intended to further shift the discourse against Iran. But I was surprised no one called him on it.

See here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x211055

[lies and propaganda]

20. i couldnt believe my fucking ears when i heard it

i truly despise him.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

22. An apt verb...

:evilgrin:

[lies and propaganda]

38. haha!

nice nick!

[Virginia Dare]

24. Translation: I can't do that unless my corporate string-pullers

tell me I can.

[rman]

26. "very powerful interests throughout the world" - sometimes

yeah, "sometimes"...

[MGKrebs]

27. This is the same BS from before Iraq.

Many were saying that France, Russia, and Germany had contracts to develop Iraqi oil, and they were willing to overlook the WMD's and the terrorism in order to keep that money flowing. Well, there were no WMD's or terrorism, but we voided their contracts anyway. Now, we are saying the same thing again! They want the money even if it means supporting an "evil" regime. So I guess we're going to void these contracts too.

[gasperc]

28. NO, but tell us what you really think

he wasn't supposed to make his real policy public but safe to say this is what he really thinks, war more profitable than peace

[IWantAChange]

29. GWB - statesman?? Small wonder we (the US) no longer talk to adversaries.

Clips of Dubyha talking should be made into a commercial for our young people not to drink in excess and destroy the majority of their brain cells.

[maggiegault]

30. IF YOU HAVE A WEBSITE OF YOUR OWN, POST IT

Throughout the day, and I am not making this up, the number of pages with "money trumps peace" has dwindled on all of the major search engines. The news outlets, too. It's included on the blogs, but I have had mine up for several hours now and it still does not appear on Google (strange, considering that I use Blogger).

He can't get away with his garbage this time...Democrats, * gave us a BATTLE CRY today. Let's nail the little bastard once and for all with his own words!!!!!!!

If you have your own blog or website, put up a transcript of the news conference while it still exists. Write about it. Talk about it.

By the way, Democratic Underground is NOT showing up, either.

[MasonJar]

32. I sincerely expect sanctions to be levied against the US before long;

we certainly deserve them. It is proof of the sublime disconnect of the ignoramus-in-chief that he quite obviously does not see the irony of half of what he says.

[ClintonTyree]

33. The first time he's told the truth durig his entire pResidency....

and it has to be something as boneheaded as that. :wtf: Maybe red America might finally realize that their sons and daughters are being sacrificed for Bush's Corporate cronies.
How utterly fucking disgusting! :grr:

[connecticut yankee]

34. In his world

money trumps everything.

Especially honor.

[Turbineguy]

35. After Iran said they would close the Straights of Hormuz

if attacked by Bush. I'd guess Chimpy's handlers put the squeeze on him. He can be a parasite on the US people as long as he wants, but he's not to fuck with their interests.

[maxsolomon]

36. its not "peace" european & asian money is trumping

its the pax americana, part MCDXVIII of which is *'s plan to punish iran.

economic & military agression not the same thing as peace, president narcissist.

[cdnwannabe]

39. Let me get this straight - everyone else makes sacrifices.....

while the U.S. continues to rape and pillage for ever more oil???

Well, BushCo never fails to be consistent in their hypocrisy and evil!

[bluescribbler]

40. No surprise

He learned that from his Great Grandfathers.

[Canuckistanian]

41. "Oops, did I just say that out loud"?

"For a minute there, I thought I was in a energy policy meeting with the Exxon guys...."

[DFW]

42. Bush just summed up his (i.e. Cheney's) Iraq policy

No-bid contracts and overcharges for Halliburton and Republican
contributors. Billions of our tax dollars squandered, stolen, or,
as was recently revealed, just plain lost in the mail--$7 billion
in cash, or however much it was. But as long as it was going into the
right (multiple interpretations, there) pockets, peace was a secondary
notion.

Bush was trying to make a derogatory remark about Europeans dealing with
Iran (never mind that the USA deals plenty with Iran, just once removed),
and instead revealed the philosophy behind his whole Middle East strategy.

I GUESS we should be pleased he was straight with us for once, sorta, well,
in a roundabout way, well, OK so no he wasn't trying to be straight with us
at all (what was I thinking, there?), he just let his pants down for once
instead of stumbling over them while trying to tie his shoes.

[samfishX]

43. I don't understand what all the hubbub is about here...

I really don't.

Maybe I'm completely misreading his statement out of context, he's saying that people in Europe don't want to harm Iran because it'll cause economic inconvenience to them.

I'm the LAST person on Earth who would defend this slime ball, but are you guys all honestly trying to tell me that he's wrong?? No offense, but you're all being painfully naive, if that's the case.
Of COURSE money trumps peace when you aren't being directly affected by the alternative. Things are going great for you! For purely selfish reasons, why would you WANT it to change?

It's not like someone asked him, "If you give the Iraqis the jobs that foreign contractors like Halliburton are currently doing, than history has shown that people will because less likely to engage in acts of violence since they're now financially well off."
To which Bush replied, "It's an interesting question. One of the problems -- not specifically on this issue, just in general -- let's put it this way, money trumps peace, sometimes. In other words, commercial interests are very powerful interests throughout the world."

I mean, I could SEE why people would be outraged if the exchange was more along those lines (in addition to the fact that that fictional exchange is 100% true, sadly).

Yeah, I get that "Money Trumps Peace" alone (and out of context, in this case) could sum up the entire Bush Crime Family's adventures in the Middle East perfectly.
But I read about all the outrage on blogs today/yesterday, heard about it on various radio shows and honestly...I just don't get it.

[westerebus]

45. Reality is in the mind of the beholder.

As a nation, america out spends most of the world on the military industrial complex that enforces Pax Americana. With an investment like that do you not expect some kind of use of that power,the return on the investment? We stopped long ago on the road to freedom in this country. Watergate was the test of power. Iran Contra was/is the blueprint of corporate oligarchic elitism to the war state. Clinton's NAFTA and the military "nation building" in the Balkans continued the time line.Bushchenney put it all together at once. Are we witnessing the expeditious decline of American Democracy within a generation? Or is it something more?

[Vidar]

44. Gordon Gecko was more succinct & understandable: "Greed is good."

-"Wall Street"

[ProudDad]

46. This from the most vicious war monger on the face of the Earth

"Q A lot of our allies in Europe do a lot of business with Iran, so I wonder what your thoughts are about how you further tighten the financial pressure on Iran, in particular, if it also means economic pain for a lot of our allies?

THE PRESIDENT: It's an interesting question. One of the problems -- not specifically on this issue, just in general -- let's put it this way, money trumps peace, sometimes. In other words, commercial interests are very powerful interests throughout the world. And part of the issue in convincing people to put sanctions on a specific country is to convince them that it's in the world's interest that they forgo their own financial interest.

And John, that's why sometimes it's tough to get tough economic sanctions on countries. And I'm not making any comment about any particular country, but you touched on a very interesting point.

And so, therefore, we're constantly working with nations to convince them that what really matters in the long run is to have the environment so peace can flourish. In the Iranian case, I firmly believe that if they were to have a weapon, it would make it difficult for peace to flourish. And, therefore, I'm working with people to make sure that that concern trumps whatever commercial interests may be preventing governments from acting. I make no specific accusation with that statement. It's a broad statement. But it's an accurate assessment of what sometimes can halt multilateral diplomacy from working. "


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To paraphrase the Great and Immortal Frank Zappa: "This guy wouldn't know peace if it ran up on the sidewalk and bit him on the ass"