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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:15 PM
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60 Minutes with Plame - Did I miss something?

I thought CBS had confirmed that Plame's job was to keep nukes from Iran. Did they mention Iran at all? :shrug:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:16 PM
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1. Nope. Iran wasn't mentioned. (nt)
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:16 PM
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2. ah no
they NEVER touched the subject. However they did say to see the rest of the
story go their web site.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:16 PM
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3. You missed nothing, really.
Couric did everything she could to turn it back on the Wilsons and make it a "Nothing to see here" story.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:18 PM
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6. I saw the interview ...
Couric was horrible - but I was surprised that Iran wasn't mentioned. I thought that maybe I missed it somehow, LOL!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:32 PM
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11. There are limits
to what Ms. Plame can discuss publicly.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:35 PM
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13. I know that ... but i thought CBS News had confirmed the Iran connection earlier this week
The on-air version was all about Iraq.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:44 PM
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17. But that does
not mean she confirmed it.

I share the frustration people feel -- the public deserves the truth. But it will not be delivered by 60 Minutes. They can't, even if they wanted to.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:46 PM
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18. You're right.
Our government is guilty of treason and no one can say a damn thing! :grr:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:51 PM
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24. If congress
were to begin the process of impeachment of VP Cheney, a federal judge would be able to release the parts of the Plame grand jury investigation that was not made public during the Libby trial. It is the ONLY legal way for that to happen. That information is a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:05 PM
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29. So is that the real reason impeachment is "off the table,"
even impeachment of Cheney? If so, how was the Administration able to get Congress to go along with that?

Re If congress were to begin the process of impeachment of VP Cheney, a federal judge would be able to release the parts of the Plame grand jury investigation that was not made public during the Libby trial. It is the ONLY legal way for that to happen. That information is a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.


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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:07 PM
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30. In my opinion,
it is a huge factor.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:22 PM
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40. well, maybe a leprechaun will come along?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:23 PM
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41. Little Scooter?
Ha!
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:51 PM
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23. ...but Katie refused to confirm something that the CIA already owned up to:
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 07:53 PM by Cooley Hurd
...that VPW was covert (Couric said as much, but sourced it to the Wilson's themselves - even though General Haydem himself confimed it to Rep Waxman shortly before Plame-Wilson's testimony on 3/16/07).
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:53 PM
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26. True.
But General Hayseed van say things that Ms. Plame cannot. I am not saying that I agree with that, or support it. But it is what it is.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:17 PM
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39. she sure did - she is such a tool . . .
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:16 PM
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4. Do they repeat 60 minutes?
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:34 PM
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12. I don't think so ...
but the story is on the CBS News web site:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/17/60minutes/main3378089.shtml

The first two minutes from the 60 Minutes story are on You Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV-REM00YbY

Couric clearly says "Iran" but it was changed to "Iraq" during the broadcast.



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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:47 PM
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20. Check CBS.com or YouTube
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=60+minutes+plame

A heads-up from a bud :hi: - Katie tried to skewer it to fit the Reich-wings' talking points.

BTW - how were the cookies? ;)
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:23 PM
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37. The full brodcast video is at Crooks & Liars
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-on-60-minutes-the-president-is-not-a-man-of-his-word/

Valerie Plame On 60 Minutes: “The President Is Not A Man Of His Word”
By: Logan Murphy on Sunday, October 21st, 2007 at 7:17 PM - PDT


Outed CIA covert operative Valerie Plame Wilson and her husband, Joe Wilson, gave an interview to Katie Couric on 60 Minutes. In the first segment, Plame Wilson spoke frankly about being betrayed by this administration, as well as her assessment of the damage done to the nation’s security by revealing her identity:

Part One: Download (658) | Play (622) video_mov Download (650) | Play (338) (thanks to BillW for videos)

But the second segment is where Couric goes off the rails and shows her flair for White House talking points. It’s almost as if she implies that Plame Wilson should have expected the White House to out her because the work she did touched on the question that sent her husband, Amb. Joseph Wilson, to Niger.

COURIC: You never for a moment thought this could potentially jeopardize my career?

PLAME: It’s called ‘living your cover.’ This had nothing to do with what I was doing. He was part of the debate.

COURIC: But admit it, it comes awfully close to what you were doing, even covertly. I mean, you were trying to ascertain if Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He’s writing an article saying ‘it’s really not valid, this one assertion.’ I mean, can’t you see how those two things might collide and in a very dangerous way?

Part Two: Download (480) | Play (344) video_mov Download (173) | Play (229)

Couric should be embarassed for her arsenal of GOP talking points disguised as an interview. Seriously, this is a covert agent telling you that national security was compromised and you think this is the kind of question that needed to be asked?

Can you understand how people just were turned off by that whole thing? They felt “Gee, maybe she’s enjoying her celebrity a little too much.”

She even at one point accused Valerie of being very partisan and Joseph Wilson of still seething… can you believe that hackery? Did it ever cross her mind to ask that of President Bush in her softball interview from Iraq? Of course not.

To the end, the Wilsons held strong to the truth and never backed down, even when the CIA made it difficult for her to publish her own book on the events, Fair Game, eventually redacting 10% of it.

Couric: “Do you think President Bush was in on this?”

Plame: “I don’t know about that, but I, like most other Americans saw President Bush say on TV that he would fire anyone from his administration found to be involved in the leak of my name. It turns out, the president is not a man of his word.”
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:17 PM
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5. Not that I heard. Couric was too busy being an ass. Joe nailed
her though.... Now I want Rove to prove his wife doesn't work for the CIA.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:20 PM
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7. Lala-rawraw and Greg Palast reported this but got censored out of MSM coverage
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:47 PM
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19. I'm afraid you may have been fooled again. n/t
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:04 PM
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38. What ? MSM covered the Palast story 'Khan Job' ? And lala-rawraw's info
What are you saying ?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:21 PM
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8. of COURSE not...
Katie the airhead had no clue that Valerie was involved with ANYTHING beyond arranging the centerpieces at the CIA Xmas party.

Katie the airhead is lucky she can breathe or tie her shoes from day to day...
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:28 PM
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9. She's horrible, isn't she?
:puke:

I saw the interview, but I didn't hear any mention of Iran, so I thought I missed something while my dog was bugging me.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:39 PM
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15. Your dog was just trying to tell you
"that female master is dumber than an Irish Setter"
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angryxyouth Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:29 PM
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10. NO. You missed nothing.
"Why did anyone expect substance from those MSM bastards. Katie "The Shill" Couric seemed to do her best to question Valerie Plame's credibility. The sheep will remember the questions, but not the answers.:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:36 PM
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14. So tell me -- is this worth watching or not?
60 Minutes doesn't come on here for an hour and a half. I can't stand Katie in the best of circumstances. Will she make this interview completely unbearable for me even though I'd like to hear what Ms. Wilson has to say?
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:42 PM
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16. For me, it was worth it just to hear Valerie Plame speak for herself
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 07:55 PM by BattyDem
Katie tried to downplay the whole thing - she even had the nerve to call the Wilsons partisan - but they put her in her place. :-)
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:48 PM
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22. Smart. And very easy to look at too. I think Cheney should
be in a prison cell for treason.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:56 PM
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27. An intelligent and classy woman
I think we lost a valuable asset when they outed her. :-(
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:48 PM
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21. Katie seemed more distressed that Valerie posed for Vanity Fair than upset
that our government outed a covert agent...again..no mention of Iran
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:52 PM
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25. That was pathetic!
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 07:57 PM by BattyDem
Katie was grilling Ms. Plame about a freakin' photo, but treated her outing like it was no big deal. To those who missed it, here's a summary: "You're covert status was exposed, there were probably serious ramifications for any agent connected to you, Bush didn't fire those involved as he promised ... but don't you think it was very inappropriate to pose for that photo in Vanity Fair?" :eyes: :puke:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:03 PM
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28. I know, right? Very catty of Katie Couric.
She almost sounded jealous of Plame's beauty and glamorous life.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:36 PM
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32. Yeah, Lord knows I could pick Valerie out of a crowd based on the VF photo.
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 08:39 PM by Garbo 2004
Gimme a break. oooh she posed for a photo! Covered up enough just shy of wearing a burka. Not ooooh, the White House deliberately outed a covert CIA agent. Jeebus. What a nose for news, Katie!

Additionally, she didn't live her life in a convent. It's not like there were never any photos of her and her husband that could be found before the Vanity Fair cover.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:25 PM
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31. 60 Minutes is DEAD! they just haven't buried the corpse n/t
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:39 PM
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34. V. Plame should have cancelled when she found out that
Couric would do the interview. Why subject herself to a vapid RWing shill?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:38 PM
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33. See Lala's link here:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:40 PM
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35. We are ALL missing something with this broadcast... It was censored.
The FULL interview was released to the press, but they didn't air the part about Iran...
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:32 PM
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42. I looked for that word everywhere in the Plame material at 60 minutes.
not there
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Piedras Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:15 PM
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36. Valerie Plame chatting at FireDogLake 12/22 10:30-12:30 PT
Valerie Plame Wilson will be live chatting tomorrow morning at www.FireDogLake.com between 10:30am and 12:30pm Pacific Time. Ask your questions there. It should be a very enlightening discussion.

October 22
Fair Game: My Life as a Spy, My Betrayal by the White House
Chat with author Valerie Plame Wilson, hosted by Sidney Blumenthal
Special time, 10:30am -12:30pm PT/ 1:30-3:30pm ET
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