What you should know about the DLC

[bonito]

The DLC's affiliated think tank is the Progressive Policy Institute. Democrats who adhere to the DLC's philosophy often call themselves New Democrats. Others use this label too though and belong to other organizations and have differing agendas contesting to define that term and control the party's future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

The fledgling neocons of the left are based at places such as the Progressive Policy
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1534


"You have to keep in mind that the center has shifted in our politics," Kucinich responded, smiling. "I'm really at the center, and all the other candidates are to the right of me. And they're to the right of the American people."

And Dennis Kucinich knows it!
"The Democratic Leadership Council's agenda is indistinguishable from the Republican Neoconservative agenda," he went on. "They want to continue to stay in Iraq. They reject the idea of a not-for-profit health care system. ... These analysts are ... trying to keep a politics that really helps support a privileged few at the expense of the many. So I'm the candidate of the people.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_DLC_agenda_undistinguishable_from_Neocon_0813.html

[Richard Steele]

1. "And they're to the right of the American people." Damn straight they are. recommended

[H2O Man]

2. Nominated.

I like the old-fashioned democrats, with traditional democratic values.

[zazzle]

30. Yes - I like them too

That's why I'm voting for John Edwards - who seeks to reclaim the
Dem Party that used to represent Labor, the working class and middle class.
WooHOo!

[Swamp Rat]

3. The co-founder of the DLC, Will Marshall, is a PNAC signatory:

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1295

[pocoloco]

5. Why does this not surprise me?

The neocons have there hands in everything else.

Even DU, "keeping our fucking powder dry" for example!

Business as usual.

[Greyskye]

8. That's the scariest thing I learned all day today.

And today was pretty friggin' scary.


Thanks for that, Swamp Rat. :thumbsup:



:kick: & R

[lostnotforgotten]

4. And Hillary Is A DLCer - "nuff said"

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[AntiFascist]

7. The DLC thinktank was called "Bill Clinton's Idea Mill"....

according to no less than the PPI website itself:

http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAreaID=87&subsecID=112&contentID=1100

How likely is that Hillary will reject all of this and suddenly turn left?

[lostnotforgotten]

14. That's The Point - She Won't - So She Is Unelectable In My Book!

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[OzarkDem]

46. Early on, it worked well

but PPI and the DLC sold out to corporate donors and corrupted their agenda. They're nothing like the group they were back in 1991.

Yet they still try to take credit for Clinton's policies.

[me b zola]

47. It is much more likely that she will issue pardons

to anyone in the * administration who are held to account. I would love for all of the Democratic candidates to be asked--and answer--that question.

[leftchick]

28. She Is The Face of The DLC!

no wonder corporate America LOVES her!









:puke:

[Individualist]

6. Everyone needs to know about DLC's agenda

Let's just look at the cold, hard facts about the DLC and its record. The DLC has pushed, among other things, the war in Iraq and "free" trade policies, using bags of corporate money to buy enough Democratic votes to help Republicans make those policies a reality. They have chastised anyone who has opposed those policies as either unpatriotic or anti-business -- even as a majority of Americans now oppose the war in Iraq, oppose the DLC's business-written trade deals, and are sick of watching America's economy sold out to the highest corporate bidder. Additionally, in brazenly Orwellian fashion, the DLC has also called its extremist agenda "centrist," even though polls show the American public opposes most of their agenda, and supports much of the progressive agenda. http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0727-32.htm

The progressive movement has not just threatened this message monopoly -- it is undoing it. Through MoveOn, the rise of popular documentaries, blogs, think tanks, etc. It's not just that we talk about real values and innovative strategies. It's because we're talking, period, that the centrists feel threatened.

Hence the DLC's vicious attempts to discredit the movement. And that's what they want. They don't seek to win an argument over policy. They seek to destroy the credibility of their opponents and restore their message monopoly. http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=721

This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

DLC Watch, the wicked shall not escape justice http://dlcwatch.blogspot.com

Without a doubt, the DLC is the most fundamentalist organization within the caucus, the most ideologically rigid, and the most destructive to the progressive cause.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/5/24/1712/23448

These DLC types are amazing, they really are. Their pathology is unique; they all secretly worship the guilt-by-association tactics of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove, but unlike those two, not one of them has enough balls to take being thought of as the bad guy by the general public.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11275627/the_low_post_democrats_walk_themselves_to_the_gallows

[AuntPatsy]

19. Good information.

[doublethink]

9. From what I've learned of the DLC past ....... is ......

it's the Corporate wing and sponsor of the Democratic Party. Al Gore had very nice things to say about the DLC prior to 2000 .... Lieberman was a co-founder on and on. Wonder what Al Gore thinks of the DLC today? Any links to that, anyone? Serious question. Peace.

[bonito]

10. A bit wary of those details as well

My take is that he's not coming across as a right wing nut job and some say he is no longer with them, In any event I think he needs to do something Quick because all eyes are on the corporate Lure and away from Kucinich vs DLC mess.

[doublethink]

11. Don't know how his mind might work in these things .... but maybe ....

his stance on Global Warming is such that he has to keep 'faith' so to speak with the Corporate Empire because they are truly the only ones who can change the course we are on? Don't know, just a thought. Some would call it 'kissing ass' but if it saves our planet and he convinces them to change course with an open dialog. Unlike Bushievites who don't understand diplomacy etc... etc...? Peace.

[bonito]

13. I know but

To think we have to suck up to the mob for clarity is defeating because that's how they win, no, sucking up is definitely not the way to move forward.

[antigop]

15. FWIW, David Sirota said Gore endorsed Sirota's book: "Hostile Takeover" n/t

[scarletwoman]

34. Gore broke with DLC pretty publicly after the 2000 election fiasco.

I don't have the time (or patience) to go digging for a link, but there was a very symbolic moment when the DLC was holding some big "do" to which Gore had been invited, and he chose instead to attend a different grass-roots type event. Sorry, I can't remember what the other event was, all I remember was that it was a very telling move on Gore's part, due to the stark contrast between the two different events and their respective sponsors.

It seems clear to me that Gore has grown and evolved way past whatever involvement he had in the past with the DLC.

sw

[doublethink]

43. Thanks for that info scarletwoman.

appreciated. Peace.

[scarletwoman]

48. You're welcome -- I just wish I had something better to offer than my fuzzy memory. (nt)

[Lars39]

12. Thanks for posting this, bonito.

Gotta keep informing the newer members and lurkers about the right wing ideology of the DLC. :thumbsup:
Trojan horse.

[dickbearton]

38. The sad fact is most Democrats are not liberal or progressive...

Like all Americans, they have fallen victim to RW lies,
disinformation and propaganda. They are corporatist, bluedogs,
so called moderates, Dinos, turncoats, you name it. And, that
is the problem! They often aline with the Criminals that make
up the GOP.   

[Pastiche423]

16. A link to everything you never wanted to know about the DLC...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4443&forum=DCForumID22&archive=

K&R

[bonito]

17. WOW! Thanks!

:thumbsup:

[Pastiche423]

18. That would be a great big thank you to former DUer, Elorial

She and Samatha (I think?) that did the extensive research.


On edit: Elorial help me reach my 10,000th post!

[scarletwoman]

35. I miss Eloriel very much - she was a tireless researcher, a TRUE progressive, & a good friend.

I wish she were still here, teaching and speaking the truth.

sw

[Pastiche423]

41. So do I

I miss her tremendously.

[antigop]

21. Thank you. n/t

[scarletwoman]

36. A big THANK YOU for keeping that link all these years! I lost all my old bookmarks long ago.

:yourock:

sw

[TheWraith]

20. I think that the DLC would be ecstatic to have 10% of the power DUers credit them with.

Seriously, the boogeyman pales in comparison. One half-assed moderate Dem think-tank gets elevated to the status of an evil demi-god.

[RebelSansCause]

22. and I thought I was the anti-christ

this is all just a DLC plot to take away my rightful title!!!!!! this is what i get from those no-good corporate pandering loons. how dare they strip away my apocalyptic creed. the 4 horsemen are coming for you motherf**kers..... BIYYYYAAAHHHHHHH howard dean style. (i really do hate the DLC but wow am i tired of this and i have only been here 3 days)

[TahitiNut]

31. Yup. And that's just a teensy little spot on your lung. Nothin' to get excited about.

:eyes:

[ulysses]

33. but weren't they responsible for Clinton's presidency?

Thought I'd read that somewhere...

[scarletwoman]

37. I'd say Ross Perot deserves at least some of the credit... (nt)

[Exultant Democracy]

23. Harold Ford sounds just like a Republican every time I hear him.

[OzarkDem]

45. That's why he lost his last election

even though DLC supporters pumped a ton of money into his campaign.

[Gregorian]

24. Because Americans do not know this. They continue.

Very few people even know what the DLC is. As well as the PNAC.

A sleeping country. There for the picking. And that's what they've been doing.


I often think for a moment how we could do the same to the Republican party. But I don't think much further. It's not how I operate.

[zazzle]

29. The DLC Centri$t Clintons moved the Dem Party in with the Repub Party

Unfortunately, many young people use Clinton's prez as the standard bearer for Democrats - unaware that the Clintons' Centrism made Repub-lite acceptable in the Dem Party.
The DLC undermined Howard Dean's campaign - and the DLC and the Clintons opposed his DNC chairmanship.
Centrism has no core values and the DLC is very opposed to grassroot activists and organizing. That's why the Clintons didn't build the party during the 90s - even as the Repub Party was increasing and activism growing.
We're supporting John Edwards - the best and most electable candidate.
WooHoo!

[Gregorian]

40. Interesting.

I agree with what you said. But also realize the positives Clinton brought. But I don't think many people are willing to accept the criticism of Bill Clinton. I'm far to the left of him.

Edwards. Would you mind just briefly telling why you support him?

I'm Kucinich all the way. And I admit that I have not done my research on the other candidates. I'm being irresponsible due to the high probability that he will be sandbagged the entire way.

I have a sense that Edwards brings Republicans to our side by his projected image, although that is being quite trivial of me.

[bonito]

42. Well said n/t

[Mark D.]

25. DENNIS AGAIN

Yes, he speaks truth. He is the true center and Al Gore
is just a step or two to the right. Right enough that it
is possible he can win if he decides to run, so I say...
Gore / Kucinich 2008 is our only hope to win correctly.

[bonito]

39. Yes! I can dig it! n/t

[Mark D.]

26. Sorry

Posted twice in error

[HCE SuiGeneris]

27. K & R n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. Great post!

I come here to be educated. Thank you for educating me well on this very important topic.

[OzarkDem]

44. "Third way" policy as DLC sells it is a scam

An attempt to use a "progressive" label for warmed over GOP policy.

Its a shame they've corrupted the term, there really is something to be said for bringing new ideas to develop innovative, forward thinking public policy.