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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:00 AM
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Hmmm.... What Do You Think Is Going On Here ??? - Al-Qaeda In Iraq Reported Crippled
WP: Some in U.S. military favor declaration of victory over group; others fear its resilience.

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The U.S. military believes it has dealt devastating and perhaps irreversible blows to al-Qaeda in Iraq in recent months, leading some generals to advocate a declaration of victory over the group, which the Bush administration has long described as the most lethal U.S. adversary in Iraq.

But as the White House and its military commanders plan the next phase of the war, other officials have cautioned against taking what they see as a premature step that could create strategic and political difficulties for the United States. Such a declaration could fuel criticism that the Iraq conflict has become a civil war in which U.S. combat forces should not be involved. At the same time, the intelligence community, and some in the military itself, worry about underestimating an enemy that has shown great resilience in the past.

"I think it would be premature at this point," a senior intelligence official said of a victory declaration over AQI, as the group is known. Despite recent U.S. gains, he said, AQI retains "the ability for surprise and for catastrophic attacks." Earlier periods of optimism, such as immediately following the June 2006 death of AQI founder Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in a U.S. air raid, not only proved unfounded but were followed by expanded operations by the militant organization.

There is widespread agreement that AQI has suffered major blows over the past three months. Among the indicators cited is a sharp drop in suicide bombings, the group's signature attack, from more than 60 in January to around 30 a month since July. Captures and interrogations of AQI leaders over the summer had what a senior military intelligence official called a "cascade effect," leading to other killings and captures. The flow of foreign fighters through Syria into Iraq has also diminished, although officials are unsure of the reason and are concerned that the broader al-Qaeda network may be diverting new recruits to Afghanistan and elsewhere.

The deployment of more U.S. and Iraqi forces into AQI strongholds in Anbar province and the Baghdad area, as well as the recruitment of Sunni tribal fighters to combat AQI operatives in those locations, has helped to deprive the militants of a secure base of operations, U.S. military officials said. They are less and less coordinated, more and more fragmented," Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, the second-ranking U.S. commander in Iraq, said recently. Describing frayed support structures and supply lines, Odierno estimated that the group's capabilities have been "degraded" by 60 to 70 percent since the beginning of the year.

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Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21299285/

Are they trying to declare victory for Bush, or just to get the hell out of there???

:shrug:
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:05 AM
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1. Yikes, Another Mission Accomplished?
Do they really expect anyone to believe this?
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:06 AM
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2. Just getting the hell out of there is not a bad idea.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:08 AM
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3. General Sanchez/ Turkey
I think that between the devastating Sanchez criticism and the trouble with Turkey, BushCo wants some countervailing good news out there about all our good progress over there in the Iraq.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:11 AM
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4. Time to attack another country...
Bush has got to speed it up a bit if he wants to add Iran to his resume.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:18 AM
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5. Time to leave imo. Before it gets even worse. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:24 AM
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6. Declare victory and go home
and I must say it was predicted by many astute observers

The war might not be an issue for the elections

Perhaps now Madame speaker wil realize you don't negotiate with thugs?

That said... as long as the troops come home
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:25 AM
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7. Is "crippled" stronger or weaker than "last throes"?
Because the insurgency was in its last throes in May 2005.
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