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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 05:10 PM
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Sri Chinmoy, former spiritual leader of Santana & Mahavishnu Orchestra's John McLaughlin, dies at 76
Sri Chinmoy, Athletic Spiritual Leader, Dies at 76

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/13/nyregion/13chinmoy.html?em&ex=1192420800&en=12597bbc1a6f10bc&ei=5087%0A



By COREY KILGANNON
Published: October 13, 2007

Sri Chinmoy, the genial Indian-born spiritual leader who used strenuous exercise and art to spread his message of world harmony and inner peace, died Thursday at his home in Jamaica, Queens, where he ran a meditation center. He was 76. The cause was a heart attack, said representatives of his organization, the Sri Chinmoy Center.

Mr. Chinmoy spread his philosophy through his own way of life, exercising and creating art and music. He drew attention by power-lifting pickup trucks and public figures like Muhammad Ali and Sting. He said he had drawn 16 million “peace birds.”

He slept only 90 minutes a day, he said, and when he was not traveling to perform in concerts and spread his message, spent the rest of the time meditating, playing music, exercising and making art.

In the 1970’s, Mr. Chinmoy was a guru to several prominent musicians, including the guitarist John McLaughlin, who for a time ran the Mahavishnu Orchestra, a name given it by Mr. Chinmoy, as well as the bandleader Carlos Santana, the singer Roberta Flack and the saxophonist Clarence Clemons.



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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 05:47 PM
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1. so I guess tranquility, exercise, creativity, and good diet
don't make you live forever.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:21 PM
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2. this guy was pure evil
a cult leader ... :puke:

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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:07 PM
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3. really?
got any good links? I like it when fakers are debunked.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:18 PM
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4. oops, found one myself
http://www.rickross.com/reference/srichinmoy/srichinmoy20.html



I lived a celibate life for ten years and barely even looked into a man's eyes, other than Chinmoy. But then in the fall of 1991, when I was getting in shape and exercising a lot, out of the blue, Chinmoy invited me to join a group trip out of New York for a peace concert near San Francisco. He even offered to pay for me when I said I didn't have the money. I was very honored by this gesture. After the concert a woman I knew as the leader of the San Francisco Center approached me and said that Chinmoy wanted me to go to his room. She gave me a piece of paper with the room number on it.

After going to my room to tidy up, I nervously went to his room. I thought I had been invited to a special private party or function and never dreamed that it was for sex. After a short interview about my previous sexual experiences Chinmoy said, "You should surrender your vital (sexual) energy to me." I folded my hands, looked him in the eyes and offered him my energy, but he indicated that this wasn't enough. So then I said, "Supreme I bow to thee," a few times. He had me embrace him, I hugged him, feeling very warm and loving, but not aroused. Then Chinmoy told me to take my clothes off. I was shocked! However, prior to being in the Center, I had been very open minded, so I was happy and not angry. I took off my clothes, he then removed his and we proceeded to have sex. Afterward, he told me that I must never tell anyone. He said that I was specially chosen and that this was not rally sex, but his life breath, which he was giving me. He also mentioned that if anything happened, such as a.pregnancy, I should not even tell him, but instead go immediately to a clinic for an abortio

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:28 PM
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7. no links, only personal experience
I had no idea who this man was until I ended up living in an apt. I was renting beneath some of his followers.

It was very creepy. They had a "temple" nearby that they would go to in the middle of the night dressed in elaborate robes. They had a fine collection of garbage all over the yard and fed it to rats. It was really scary. :scared:

I ended up breaking the lease to move away from these two people. They were supposedly married but they had a "no sex" marriage or something like that.

I ended up contacting a local cult awareness organization and they sent me a whole bunch of info. on this guy and the cult.

It is your atypical cult - charismatic leader, etc.

I normally don't ever say I'm glad to see that someone is gone from this earth. However, this guy sucked a lot of people for all they had and I know it. They were very well organized in the late 1980s, I do know that much.

Rot in hell Sri Chinmoy. You are a phony and I knew it as did others that learned the hard way after it was too late.

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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:20 PM
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5. I'd really love a link too!
I've heard only positive things about this man. I have a meditation tape of his, that is truly superb, and I've enjoyed it for years, I even bought an extra one just in case it becomes destroyed in a cassette player.

I'd hate to think of him being anything but what I have learned of him.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:12 PM
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6. just did some really interesting and disturbing reading.
I read a blog with ex-disciples(students they prefer to be called).. a real eye opener.

How sad.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:34 PM
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8. these people that I lived under
they had their car in the name of the "church" or whatever the hell it was. They had everything made out to them.

They were real weirdo's. Every Xmas they all went away to a retreat in some foreign country usually. They had the glossed over eyes, etc.

They had the bad habit of calling the police on me every night at dinnertime if I happened to have the TV set on or the radio. They wanted absolute silence. It was difficult to find where I was living as a street car ran right in front of the place. The sound of a TV or a radio was welcome to help drown out all of the outside noise.

They cared not. They were busy "meditating" I guess. :eyes: :puke:

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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:21 AM
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9. I lived in the same neighborhood as some of this guru's "disciples"
back in the mid-70s in suburban Connecticut. My daughter babysat for disciples' children while they attended meditation with Guru once a week at "the center," a nearby house. Many of these disciples were professional people - lawyers, etc., but to all outward appearances they were very skinny and poverty-stricken; their apartments were sparsely furnished with prominent altars to Guru and Aloe. They devoted all their spare time to events involving the cult - making parade floats, giving vegetarian dinners, and attending Guru's "art" exhibitions in NYC. He wasn't yet into his physical fitness phase. I was invited and attended several of these functions, though I had no interest in joining. One was a "circus" held at JFK High School in the Bronx, where all eyes were on Guru, whose every movement, whether playing with a yo-yo or whatever was considered something extraordinary.

He had a "chick" named Aloe who was with him constantly. I don't know what her role was exactly, but I'm sure she shared in the wealth.

Here's another more critical obit:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10132007/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:18 AM
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11. thanks for that link!
>> The Daily News said Chinmoy died while waiting to hear if he'd won the Nobel Peace Prize for his "ceaseless efforts" with the United Nations (Chinmoy led a meditation group at the U.N. building). He didn't.

A Nobel Peace Prize for this POS? I'm SO glad he did not win a thing it seems. He died instead. Awwwwwwwwwwww .......... :mad:

He was truly a weirdo, a freak, a fake, etc. etc. etc.!!

:kick:

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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:45 AM
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10. Better than the Mother Teresa expose!!
Christopher Hitchens did an expose on Mother Teresa. he got his info from a former bookkeeper/nun who worked for her. The woman said MT would NEVER spend any money on medical supplies, doctors or drugs to help the suffering. So MT did not have a hospital, just a place for people to suffer and die and be prayed over. Nor could the sisters spend any money on the smallest personal supplies for themselves. And MT had millions and millions in donations.

Normally I think Hitchens is a drunken jerk but in this case I agree with him.
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