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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:10 AM
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How Rove & Gonzales ILLEGALLY Targeted Edwards During The 04 Campaign
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 08:11 AM by kpete
Chicago Court Orders Discovery of DOJ Political Prosecutions
HARPERS
BY Scott Horton
PUBLISHED October 13, 2007

Senior Republican operatives appear to have targeted John Edwards early in the process of the 2004 presidential election as the most likely Democratic nominee and opponent of the Bush-Cheney reelection effort. Extensively resourced efforts were launched within both FEC and DOJ to go after Edwards’s campaign funding resources, with a particularly ferocious focus on trial lawyers. At the same time, the Justice Department took quite extraordinary steps to camouflage its conduct, for fairly obvious reasons—it was sensitive to the potentially adverse damage to the Bush Administration and its re-election efforts that would result from the disclosure of its use of the machinery of the criminal justice process to attack a political adversary.

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Improper White House manipulation of criminal justice machinery took a consistent form: political appointees, acting on White House instructions, would “allocate resources” and “deny resources.” When Rove wanted people “taken out,” copious resources—FBI investigators and prosecutors—would be allocated to concocting a case. When Rove wanted to shield Republican operatives who came under suspicion, federal prosecutors would be fired, transferred, retired or reassigned with regularity. The so-called U.S. Attorneys scandal is one manifestation of this process, but in fact it is reflected in a consistent pattern of dealings that stretch back to the beginning of the Bush Administration.

Papers filed in the Beam case provide further evidence of how the scheme was surreptitiously carried out. It appears that Justice Department lawyers involved in the scheme improperly issued subpoenas to financial institutions designed to collect information on campaign fundraisers for Edwards. The subpoenas were marked with a legend saying that their existence was to be treated as a secret. Since the subpoenas were issued in violation of federal laws protecting the secrecy of information by financial institutions, one has to suspect that this extraordinary step was taken because the Justice Department officials involved knew their conduct was unlawful and sought to obscure that fact by avoiding detection. In any event, the existence of the subpoenas was not a fact entitled to protection. The prosecutors also invoked grand jury secrecy requirements as a reason for maintaining secrecy, a contention which is sure to raise eyebrows in light of the aggressive leaking of grand jury materials in a wide array of political prosecutions. More likely, the prosecutors were extreme anxious to insure that the full breadth of the scheme targeting the Edwards campaign be kept out of public knowledge.

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Gonzales personally authorized a small army of nearly 100 federal agents to raid a law office and simultaneously raid the homes of its employees and their families. Indeed, one agent commented about how he had been flown in from Iraq to help find out why American citizens had made contributions to the John Edwards campaign.

more at:
http://harpers.org/archive/2007/10/hbc-90001405
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:14 AM
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2. This is a must-read
Goddamned bastards.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:16 AM
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3. A disgusting report regarding republican decay.
more from the link:

    The FBI agent’s comment is very telling. As the headlines teach us, American security contractors in Iraq have been implicated in enormous crimes, including murder, assault, rape, kidnapping and extortion. In a contractor population of 180,000 for three years the Justice Department, which has direct responsibility for law enforcement, has failed to bring a single prosecution for violent crime. And instead one of the few FBI investigators assigned to Iraq is brought home to America to terrorize people involved in raising campaign funds for Administration opponents. This tells you as clearly as possible what the priorities of the officials directing this case were. They have nothing to do with preserving the integrity of the federal elections process. Rather just the opposite. They are employed to assail political opponents and provide unfair advantage to the Republican Party and its candidates. This is morally corrupt and repugnant.


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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:09 AM
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14. Your point is exceptional
The DoJ is being used as Bushco's personal enforcers. Anyone "In the favor of" the Administration is shielded from legal repercussions, and those that oppose them are subject to the full force of that arm of government.

Most disgusting are the war crimes committed by our armed forces and mercs, swept under the rug.

"Those Middle Eastern people hate us for our freedoms!" Pfff. They hate us for coming across the ocean to kill them for their oil and land.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:34 PM
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50. After this, how can any half way intelligent citizen not know
that the wiretapping schemes and searching email, were not all "with national security as a cover" used for the monitoring and gathering information of democratic opponents.
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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:51 PM
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53. Because they don't read
After this, how can any half way intelligent citizen not know that the wiretapping schemes and searching email, were not all "with national security as a cover" used for the monitoring and gathering information of democratic opponents.


you forgot the question mark (?)

The reason the citizens don't know is because they don't read, they get their news from corporate television and censored newspapers.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:22 AM
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4. And still it was openly obvious
that those early accusations were like this. Only now the details come out to suggest more of the iceberg beneath the still waters of the three monkey media and hesitant Congress. edwards fought off the attack fairly well, now revealed to be partly due to the cautionary fears of the extraordinary illegal means used to fluff up the attack.

Yet, yawn, the people forget this deadly stuff and instead let the simply foul mouthed garbage about haircuts and mansions actually work in the political sense. Of course you can't nail and intimidate a candidate and his support without real strong arm tactics. Sometimes just plain slander isn't enough fun.

Still buried is the issue whether Edwards was completely singled out as the most logical and dangerous threat which would boomerang the lie campaign back to reality. Oh no, just like haircuts and mansions we can't suggest that because that would spoil the primary fun of pretending other candidates are equally targeted and feared by the goon squads. And continue, ourselves, to carry on the original intentions of the belabored smear campaign anyway.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:11 PM
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19. And this Administration wants to "enhance" the spying laws
It is about time to tell this group to, "fuck-off and die"! Period.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:28 AM
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5. The half has not been told
Wait until Americans really find out what Bushco and his goons have been up to these past six years. More frightening is that no one has been tried for treason yet.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:39 AM
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6. Dirt piled upon dirt.
The bush crime family's evil knows no boundaries.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:44 AM
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7. In a nutshell
NSA spied on political opponents
and the DoJ used U.S. Attorneys as "button men" to hit their opponents
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:59 AM
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10. Gonzales appointed AG in Feb 2005
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 09:04 AM by DemReadingDU
Gonzales - served as the 80th Attorney General of the United States. Gonzales was appointed to the post in February 2005 by President George W. Bush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Gonzales

So when "Gonzales personally authorized a small army of nearly 100 federal agents to raid a law office and simultaneously raid the homes of its employees and their families. Indeed, one agent commented about how he had been flown in from Iraq to help find out why American citizens had made contributions to the John Edwards campaign.", Gonzales was the White House Counsel.
edit to add - assuming Gonzales authorized this raid in 2004.

From 2001 to 2005, Gonzales served in the Bush Administration as White House Counsel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Gonzales
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 02:21 AM
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75. Yes, Gonzales did these things before he was Attorney General
From the article linked in the OP:

At the time of the actions taken, Gonzales was counsel to George W. Bush and was heavily (and improperly) involved in shaping and directing Department of Justice prosecutions, and the head of the Federal Election Commission (FEC) was Michael Toner.


This makes it even more chilling, when you realize it was Junior's lawyer (among others) who was orchestrating these things. I am reminded of the chart that Senator Sheldon Whitehouse produced in February, while he was questioning Gonzales about a change in the policy governing initial contacts between the Department of Justice and the White House on pending cases and investigations. Under previous administrations, only four White House officials and three D.O.J. officials could make such contacts; under the Bush administration, the portal widened to more than 400 White House staffers and over 40 people at the Justice Department.



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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:45 AM
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8. Scott Horton has been a great source of info
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 08:49 AM by DemReadingDU
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:00 AM
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16. Horton has done astounding research. And more great legal minds at work are needed.
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 10:02 AM by L. Coyote
It will take an army of prosecutors to restore justice.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:52 AM
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9. Anyone else here think the Bushies = less violent Nazis comparison is bullshit?
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 08:54 AM by tom_paine
How much evidence of their "respect" for the America People and the Rule of Laqw before you realize that it's TRUE?

How long does your face have to be held down in shit before the denial ends and you can accept that it isn't chocolate pudding that you're lapping up, unpleasant as the realization may be?

Wake the fuck up. If and when the American Imperial Subjects ever rise up in even the slightest way to fight Bushevik Tyranny, we shall find out how fully like Nazis the Bushies were and are.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:01 PM
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42. Absolutely. Bushco is bound by no laws.
They ARE the law. A revolution will not be allowed.

Phone, email, snail mail, credit card transactions, banking transactions under surveillance.

Justice Department and IRS used as attack dogs.

Private mercenary army that answers to no one.

Active Denial System to quell the civilian uprising.


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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:05 AM
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11. K&R
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:07 AM
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12. What more compelling confirmation of the experience of the general public,
that Edwards is far and away the most popular figure among Democratic aspirants to the presidency (though Kusinich is perhap not too far behind). Forget the polls.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:44 PM
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20. The Powers That Be will never allow that to be a possibility.
Too much for them to lose, if 'We The People' reclaimed our government.

That is why a massive amount of propaganda is being unloaded on 'We The People,' to insure their approved candidate will be the choice.

Out of all the people I have talked to, everyone puts Edwards first, but they do not believe he will be the choice we are presented.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 04:54 PM
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24. It will be a bad day indeed for the US, if the DINOS are complicit in such a blatant rigging;
when even the Republicans scarcely expect Edwards to lose the nomination.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:07 AM
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13. I wish I could think that this will now blow up in their faces
With endless stories on CNN and Congressional hearings.

Speaker Pelosi? Hello? Hello?
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:38 AM
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15. So this is why Gonzo hired a criminal attorney.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:15 AM
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69. Bingo!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:11 AM
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17. 180,000 security contractors, 3 years, DoJ prosecutions = ZERO
"American security contractors in Iraq have been implicated in enormous crimes, including murder, assault, rape, kidnapping and extortion. In a contractor population of 180,000 for three years the Justice Department, which has direct responsibility for law enforcement, has failed to bring a single prosecution for violent crime. And instead one of the few FBI investigators assigned to Iraq is brought home to America to terrorize people involved in raising campaign funds for Administration opponents. This tells you as clearly as possible what the priorities of the officials directing this case were."
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:21 AM
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18. Holy shit. Holy shit. Well. Anyone who isn't paranoid today, isn't reading
the liberal blogs...or harpers.

Does Edwards have legal recourse in this matter?
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 04:02 PM
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21. OK
I'm forwarding this page to Keith Olbermann, and asking him to do a whole "breaking news story" episode on this - he could push to have it advertised the whole day (Mon) before it airs and he could talk about the hundreds of thousands of dollars that were spent of taxpayer money to try and destroy what they perceived (rightly so imo with the "new blood" that was in the Edwards campaign hoping for changing and voting for the first time in the primaries) as B*sh's biggest threat at being reselected.

This is incredibly criminal.

Enough - arrest them already. These actions would not hold up in a court of law as 'legal' in a real courtroom.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 04:43 PM
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22. This has been the subject of speculation, that the Bush Administration feared Edwards most....
.... and that they improperly used governmental resources to snoop on Edwards supporters and fundraisers.

The reason it never hit print before was the lack of verifiable evidence to back up the claims.

You can bet that the Republican Party has engaged in the same kind of anti-Edwards attack this election cycle as well.

Republicans may hate the Clintons, but it is Edwards they fear --- because Edwards has never been bought.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 04:44 PM
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23. Now we know why Gonzales has "lawyered up"
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 05:14 PM
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25. They likely had a similar effort for all of the possibilities
We know what they hit Kerry with. It would not surprise me if they had combed through every document that touched on VT for the 12 years that Dean was governor and looked through his and his wife's practices.

It was clear that the SBVT did not convene in February 2004 and concoct their lies, write a book and attack. There were likely similar efforts for each - and they would have activated the most likely one.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:09 PM
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34. I remember them fearing Howard Dean the most n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:27 PM
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37. I have read/heard that they feared:
Dean
Clark
Edwards
Gore - who ruled himself out in I think early 2003
HRC
Kerry

the most

I think that in reality none of that list could have done better than Kerry in those 3 debates. The only unfiltered time Kerry really got was the nomination speech - which was excellent and the debates. Kerry was better than the other 2004 candidates in the primary debates. Edwards was likely the weakest of the 2004 candidates listed here in them.

Although Kerry was hit by the SBVT, most people remotely likely to vote for Kerry knew it was a lie. In December 2003, Dean polled 20 points behind Bush in one poll. After Kerry won Iowa and NH, he did far better against Bush than Dean or Edwards.

They clearly feared Kerry or they wouldn't have taken the risk that the media and public would turn on them for attacking Kerry's service in Vietnam - where, by official Navy records, he was and is a highly decorated hero. That designation was given to him - not something claimed by him.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:32 PM
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49. Kerry Wiretapping
I've always held that Bushco sicced it's wiretapping and spying resources on the Kerry campaign. If our Neville Chamberlain Democrats ever start playing hardball instead of "bipartisan" wussball, we'd have the truth exposed. Instead, this'll be (Yawn) this weeks impeachable imprisonable political atrocity that they "don't have the votes" to deal with. Throw up their hands and whine, "What's a mother to do?"

Maybe they'll write a strongly worded nonbinding bipartisan committee memo.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:35 PM
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58. If Kerry was wired tapped, it wouldn't be the first time - Nixon did it too
It has never stopped him from speaking out. He has led as much as anyone in the Senate. It is a fact that they don't have the votes. Notice that many Republicans, Joe Scarborough daily, say they have enough votes - but other than not funding the defense department at all - in a time of war - they don't. (There are not 51 Democrats who want NO funding - so there is nothing just Democrats can pass.)
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 05:19 PM
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26. Jeezus H. Kee-rist. (K&R)
:kick:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 05:34 PM
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27. Ok, lawyers, when are you going to stand up and fight it?
This is a battle the legal profession needs to wage on its own behalf. They have the money, the power and the skills to make the law work on their behalf.

Will they choose to fight or will they let it go? The legal profession is notorious for trying to straddle the fence between conservatives and liberals. As a profession they've turned a blind eye to much of Bush's illegal activity. Maybe learning about attacks on their own profession will finally motivate them to take action. Maybe or maybe not..
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:26 PM
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36. Simply not true 'as a profession they've turned a blind eye to much of Bush's illegal activity'
Lawyers as a profession are individuals who represent others in the legal system. The American Bar Association could not be more clear in its opposition to Bush's illegal activity, and more people would know that if the MSM had reported it.

Lawyers have to represent a client who has 'standing' to pursue a claim in the courts. Many lawyers I know are representing individual clients who have been abused as a result of Bush's illegal activity, and seeking to having those responsible held to account.

However, the money, power and the skills are not enough to empower lawyers to bring about the change you seek.

There are certainly a fair number of conservative lawyers in this country, who represent the Republican interpretation of the laws in court. However, that is required in an adversary system of justice in this country.

Lawyers are responsible for preserving and enforcing the the constitutional rights you have remaining today. Otherwise, you might not be sitting here with the opportunity to criticize the Bush Administration and lawyers themselves.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:27 PM
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46. they have been waging it
in several states, but no one pays attention in the MSM.

Read Horton's blogs on the Alabama and Mississippi prosecutions.

Also read this fellows blog. http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/

folks are doing time because of the RNC's politicizing of the DOJ.

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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 05:50 PM
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28. Rove; "It's time I spend more time with my family"
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 05:54 PM
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29. Smells like Nixon.
They did the same thing to McGovern contributors.
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:14 PM
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30. Illegal wire taps are very useful to this administration
It's my gut feeling they use them against Dems.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:16 PM
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31. Keep kicking this thing until Monday or Tuesday.
This is amazing stuff.

Wouldn't it be great if the Dems would start harping on this stuff during the debates? (No pun intended with the harping.)
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:52 PM
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32. K&R.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:05 PM
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33. If we had a decent press corps
Bush could be hounded about this at every press conference and public appearance. But they don't even try to lay a glove on him. That's why we are where we are today.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:15 PM
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35. Sure they did..We can only Guess how much went
on behind the scenes that we'll never find out about? Or least they damn better hope we don't.

But, oh yeah, IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE FUCKING TABLE CAUSE WE'RE THE BELTWAY 'DROIDS.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:52 PM
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38. I don't recognize my country any more
Political prosecutions, illegal wars, private mercenary armies, wiretapping, gulags, no habeas corpus, torture, rendition, voter suppression, fraudulent elections, free speech zones, branding dissidents as traitors...


:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:54 PM
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39. Thanks kpete...
Kicking
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:59 PM
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40. By now it's clear that this is a matter of course for them.
K&R.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:00 PM
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41. K&R! Just when I think I'm all out of outrage, something like this comes along
and I realize how inadequate my vocabularly has become.

Assholes. Liars. Imbeciles!

Republicans.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:07 PM
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43. Sounds like Bush's DOJ used *national security letters* against Edwards contributors in 2004
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 08:13 PM by seafan
http://harpers.org/archive/2007/10/hbc-90001405">Chicago Court Orders Discovery of DOJ Political Prosecutions By Scott Horton, October 13, 2007


Just as in the Downing Street memos, where *the facts were being fixed around the policy,* at Bush's DOJ, *the prosecutions were being fixed around a chosen enemy.*



Ms. Pelosi's assertion that "impeachment is off the table" is a cruel joke.



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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:16 PM
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45. You Got Me....... Bang!!!
For some reason, this left me in tears. Of course we all know the depths of depravity that Rove and Co. will stoop, but this just hit a raw nerve.
:cry: :cry: :cry:
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:45 PM
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47. Saturday evening kick !
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:20 PM
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48. Of course they fear Edwards, he's the one we all want.
He's an honest man, they want to drag him down anyway they can, and then we have the media constantly telling us it's Hillary we want, it's Hillary that will be the dem. candidate.
But that's not what we want, it's not at all who the real frontrunner is.

I'm sickened by all of this.

Why aren't these bums behind bars?

K&R
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:47 PM
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52. agreed...
and I did send this to Keith through the link option on the top left.

I am disgusted by this, and because I'm not a violent man, I'm hoping the lousy excuse for a Speaker for the American People in Congress, Ms. Pelosi, will actually join up with DU and learn what the hell the repubs have been doing and DO something for a change - because when she is interviewed you'd think she believes she's the Queen of England nowadays and just smiles... she's out of touch.

People in her district should just hammer her about being clueless and allowing impeachment of these criminals to not be brought up while she was at the helm of the Congress, so they can get her out of office, and put in a more in touch and vibrant representative.

Maybe the House will ask for counsel to investigate them for the Edwards issue, they can do that, can't they?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:00 PM
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55. Glad you sent it to Keith !
Fingers are crossed he'll dig into this :hi:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:02 PM
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56. I would be SO happy if he would do a special report on it...
it's scary shit what they've done... :hug:
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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:47 PM
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51. Harpers
Harpers has a nice tradition of one-upmanship with the New Yorker and the Atlantic monthly, but they've been relegated to the fringe of media outlets by the conglomerated electronic media and news companies.

Let's face it. When the FBI and the entire Justice Department can be hijacked by organized criminals who have illegally seized and consolidated power, it's no surprise that Congresspersons are unwilling to call for impeachment, even in districts with constituencies that heavily favor it.

http://www.counterpunch.org/nader10132007.html

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20071013_kucinich_bring_team_bush_to_justice/
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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:59 PM
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54. Public Takeover
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 10:06 PM by november3rd
Public Takeover of the electronic media and the government is the only solution.

Ban professional lobbying. Ban private campaign financing. Deprivatize all government functions, especially war and tax collection.

But most importantly, make all electronic media equal public access and totally publicly controlled.

When the marketplace of ideas is the electro-magnetic spectrum, everybody has to have equal, unfettered access--and that includes television and radio.

Media public takeover. Read this!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:21 PM
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57. Campaign fundraisers being spied on is a waste of tax payer
money. Plus I think it is illegal........When their is a cry to prosecute illigal actions, I hope this story is held up real high for prosecution....
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:53 PM
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59. Kick!
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:23 PM
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60. The beginnings of the whole Atty scandal....hmmm..interesting.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:28 PM
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62.  i wonder if this will end up in the
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 11:29 PM by madrchsod
federal district of northern illinois for prosecution? i`m sure that fitzgerald would like another shot at the whitehouse

http://www.fec.gov/law/litigation_CCA_B.shtml#bialek
FEC Litigation - Court Case Abstracts - B
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:25 PM
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61. I will bet the msm, especially the ones on the air, will avoid this story
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:02 AM
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63. I agree .No one will touch this .And the dirty little secret is that they are ALL interelated.
Keith Olberman will NEVER run this story.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:13 AM
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67. They avoid any story that's important.....
We need to use the anti-trust laws and break them into little pieces!
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:03 AM
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64. Some people need to be in prison...............
every damn one of them involved.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:14 AM
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68. I agree. They broke the law. Put them in prison!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:07 AM
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65. Lawyers were bad choices for targets. The banks will get sued. AGAG will get sued.
Karl Rove is gonna get sued. They are all going to be sued. Just wait and see.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:12 AM
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66. All these FBI and Justice officials need to be FIRED!
We can't leave any of them alone. They've broken the law.. PUT THEM ALL IN PRISON!
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:44 AM
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70. In an ironic turn of events............
is that the bigger pile of dung would of thought it a good idea to take that preemptive strike that eventually backfires



No need to talk about the crap hitting the fan anymore, lawyers suing for all the correct reasons, who would of thunk it :shrug:
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:49 AM
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71. Rove and Gonzo are no longer working at the White House
That gives them both a lot of spare time for mischief in 2008.

I wonder what they have up their sleeves... Any one care to take a guess?

They need to be kept busy to neutralize their activities until after the next election.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:56 AM
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72. This was obvious to me then, though I did not have proof.
It is also obvious that they spied on Kerry with Bush showing up within hours of Kerry at the same campaign stops.

Of course, they "picked" Kerry like the are now picking Hillary. They prefer somebody with a lot of baggage (even if it is manufactured garbage ala Swift Boating) to prop up as an opponent so that their cheating will be less obvious.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 01:11 AM
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73. K&R nt
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 01:30 AM
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74. Is there a word for "Way Past Outrage Fatigue"?
I don't want to stop hearing it... I just want to stop the wrenching.
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Patriot Abroad Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:41 AM
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76. It's only going to get worse . . .
Assuming that we manage to get the White House back, I'd say there's years of outrage ahead of us as the next administration reviews what has been going on.

But when will some one be punished?
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:10 PM
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80. I think the word is "knitting" nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:46 AM
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77. RICO
use it or lose it



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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:01 PM
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78. Wonder how many millions this cost taxpayers?
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 03:30 PM
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79. kick
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