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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:23 PM
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How the Military Can Stop an Iran Attack - Predicted by Brzezinski in Feb of this year.
On Feb 11, I published an article about Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski's testimony before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. He clearly indicated that the Bush administration would likely use a "false flag" action to justify an attack: "War may result from Iraqi failures at governance attributed to Iranian interference followed “…by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the U.S. blamed on Iran; culminating in a ‘defensive’ U.S. military action against Iran." Testimony. Now we've got that on the table below and a solution. This is getting very real. Check out the quote from the Washington Post military correspondent.


How the Military Can Stop an Iran Attack


by JEREMY BRECHER & BRENDAN SMITH


…reporters like Seymour Hersh of The New Yorker and Joe Klein of Time. International lawyer Scott Horton says European diplomats at the recent United Nations General Assembly gathering in New York "believe that the United States will launch an air war on Iran, and that it will occur within the next six to eight months." He puts the likelihood of conflict at 70 percent.

SNIP

Military Resistance

What could be stranger than a group of peace activists petitioning the military to stop a war? And yet there is more logic here than meets the eye.

Asked in an online discussion September 27 whether the Bush Administration will launch a war against Iran, Washington Post intelligence reporter Dana Priest replied, "Frankly, I think the military would revolt and there would be no pilots to fly those missions." She acknowledged that she had indulged in a bit of hyperbole, then added, "but not much."



There have been many other hints of military disaffection from plans to attack Iran--indeed, military resistance may help explain why, despite years of rumors about Bush Administration intentions, such an attack has not yet occurred. A Pentagon consultant told Hersh more than a year ago, "There is a war about the war going on inside the building." Hersh also reported that Gen. Peter Pace had forced Bush and Cheney to remove the "nuclear option" from the plans for possible conflict with Iran--in the Pentagon it was known as the April Revolution.



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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:33 PM
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1. illegal
The appeal for military personnel to resist an attack is primarily based on principle. It asserts that any pre-emptive US attack on Iran would be illegal under international law and a crime under US law. Such an attack would violate Article II, Section 4, of the UN Charter forbidding the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state. Since Iran has not attacked the United States, an attack against it without authorization by the Security Council would be a violation of international law. Under the US Constitution and the UN Charter, this is the law of the land. Under the military's own laws, armed forces have an obligation to refuse orders that violate US law and the Constitution. And under the principles established by the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal after World War II, "just obeying orders" is no defense for officials who participate in war crimes.

But the petition also addresses some of the practical concerns that have clearly motivated military officers to oppose an attack on Iran. It would open US soldiers in Iraq to decimation by Iranian forces or their Iraqi allies. It would sow the seeds of hatred for generations. Like the attack on Iraq, it would create more enemies, promote terrorism and make American families less safe.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:37 PM
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2. The Seemingly Illogicality Of It Is
Brilliant. One of those rabbit hole ideas that could actually work.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:20 PM
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3. Well, Congress won't stop it. Somebody has to.
:shrug:
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:35 PM
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4. Our only chance
Is for the Pentagon to finally say: ENOUGH!

And it looks like they already have.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:39 PM
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5. General Sanchez
Is now speaking out about the war in the most scathing terms
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:42 PM
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6. Yep
The game is on. Lets hope the sane ones win.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 09:29 PM
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7. The sane ones are fighting back, and they're alumni of the madness.
This bodes well.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 03:47 AM
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16. "alumni of the madness" Sweet!
Wish I'd said that;)

Sanchez is stepping up, I'll bet, because the "sane" faction of "management" has to double it's efforts with Gen. Pace out as head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Damn, Sanchez was good wasn't he?
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 09:55 PM
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9. You think the Pentagon will say, "enough"?
The big oil CEOs may say, "enough",...but the Pentagon ain't gonna say jack crap. If the big oil good ole' boys scream "PROFIT-LOOSING SCENARIO", THEN the Pentagon per our CIC will stop it.

Cheney is the wildcard. He has to decide allegiance to the neocons or the big whigs. I'm sure he's already negotiated deals on both sides of that debacle.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 09:48 PM
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8. We can hope; Sanchez was aired on lots of channels tonight. Maybe
everyone is getting fed up. And I have lots of respect for Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:09 PM
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11. I was thinking the same thing. coincidence? yeah, right.
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 10:09 PM by mod mom
:hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:42 PM
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25. Coincidentally or, as they boards of elections in Ohio say, "inadvertently"
:hi:
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:05 PM
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10. Could that be what happened at Barksdale?
Once the targets were known?

-Hoot
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:11 PM
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12. ????
I've been too,...distracted to keep up, I guess.

Would you kindly share what you're talking about? Thanks!
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:06 AM
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18. link
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:45 AM
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19. Basically six nuclear missiles were mounted on a B52 and flown to Barksdale AFB
Which is a staging base for Middle East operations. Somehow, these missiles got mounted without following established protocols, the bomber sat on the tarmac without guard for 10 hours, and the story was leaked to Gannet Press the publisher of Army Times, Navy Times, etc.

It's not clear where the weapons are now. It is clear that this all happened by someone circumventing normal controls over nuclear weapons. The thing about htese warheads is they are dial-a-yield from 5-150KT, which is a small nuke as nukes go.

A number of conspiracy sites have run with the story speculating many things from it was sabre rattling to that Cheney was preparing a false flag operation to provoke us into nuking Iran.

-Hoot
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:52 AM
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20. Ah. Yes. A really weird event although, perhaps, not an isolated one. eom
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:13 PM
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13. So does this mean the Topoff 4 exercises next week are cancelled?
I doubt it, but had to put that out there because I haven't been able to sleep much over worrying about it. :scared:
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:26 PM
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14. Again, ?????
Would you kindly extrapolate on what you are talking about?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:33 PM
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15. Here's the info for you:
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:54 AM
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21. Oh. Funny that: controlling the populace is more important than controlling the ports. nt
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:52 AM
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17. I'm glad that SOMEBODY in America still looks out for America!
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 06:53 AM by Hubert Flottz
I think the Army has a few good men!

Edit...I think the Army STILL has a few good men!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 05:18 PM
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23. Hey Hubert Flottz, ola!

The resistance to BushCo is in the military, throughout, in other parts of the government and among retired military and intelligence officials. It also includes some members of the MSM, some business leaders, and many other citizens. It's essential because there's no resistance, not even a little push back, from Congress, which leaves the battle to others. Isn't that amazing. That's the real loyal opposition.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 05:29 PM
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24. Not many patriots left in Washington...
The what's in it for me club runs that town.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:36 AM
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26. You mean these guys?

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0709/S00549.htm

Sorry, couldn't help myself...:)
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 06:22 AM
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27. Thank you...
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 06:27 AM by Hubert Flottz
That nails it. They want it all and they want it now. Bush is the best shot the "Money Party" has ever had at a total takeover of America and the wealth grabbing, 'freedom and liberty for all' hating element are pushing it to the very edge. Both political parties are almost beyond repair, or redemption, due to an almost total lack of patriotism. Self Interest trumps love of country, freedom or liberty. Greed brings down empires. History repeats!

If you haven't read this old book, please take the time to look it over on line. Written years ago but the truth in these pages becomes more evident every day.

The Rockefeller File
by Gary Allen

http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/gary_allen_rocker/


Greed motivated conspiracies are not imaginary things like the almost totally compromised, lap dog, MSM talking heads and the slick self-serving politicians claim. Greedy self-serving conspirators are at work as I type, sucking the life blood out of OUR country. Our country has become everything the founders FEARED it could, due to unbridled greed and an almost total lack of patriotism in our elected officials in BOTH parties.

We need to keep our own party members in Washington on the right path, by crying out when they stray, just as much as we need to cry out when the other party steps in shit! To do less would be hypocritical in the extreme. There is NO political party, or politician in this country, that can do NO WRONG! IMHO, those who criticize those who complain about the shortcomings of the politicians in our own party, are doing themselves, their party and their country, a grave disservice, at a very critical place in time in OUR country's history.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 05:41 PM
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29. "competition is a sin," John D. Rockefeller, Sr.
Thanks. There's some very interesting stuff in there. There's even a "candidates contract!"

I think what we've got now is a civil war between the new establishment, the up and commers, from the energy industry in the Southwest and the extremist religious cults like 700 Club etc. I also think that there's a huge faction of real patriots in and out of government who are fighting both the old and new establishment types. The genie is out of the bottle and people don't feel beholden or inferior anymore. These folks are the worst ruling elite ever. That they'd allow a clown like Bush in is amazing and shows no intelligence and the fact that they can't get rid of him is another damning feature of their judgment.

1500 randomly selected Americans could do a better job than CFR any day!


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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 03:05 PM
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22. It is the right of every soldier to refuse an illegal order
Assuming Iran doesn't actually attack the USA, every American soldier and those of most nations likely to be allied to the US, has the right to refuse such an order. It might even be a duty, someone who knows the US Military Code better than I do could probably tell you.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 06:28 AM
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28. An attack on Iran would destroy the military and they know it
That would leave war totally in private hands, and soldiers would exist to police US.
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