Nuke Transportation Story - Explosive Implications - Retired USN Lt. Cmdr- !!!

[autorank]

There's more to this than it seems. Listen to someone who knows, Retired Lt. Commander Stormer who wrote this for the Ft. Worth Star Telegram. He concluded his piece with this: "Yes, heads must roll and careers will end. But let's make sure that this includes the ranks from general officers to noncommissioned ones. Or is this to be the Air Force version of the Abu Ghraib investigation?" Heavy duty stuff.

Nuke transportation story has explosive implications

By ROBERT STORMER
(Lt. Commander, USN,Ret.)

Special to the Star-Telegram

The United States also does not transport nuclear weapons meant for elimination attached to their launch vehicles under the wings of a combat aircraft. The procedure is to separate the warhead from the missile, encase the warhead and transport it by military cargo aircraft to a repository -- not an operational bomber base that just happens to be the staging area for Middle Eastern operations.
Yes, we still do fly nuclear warheads over the United States today. We also drive them over land as well. That's not the point.

This is about how six nuclear advanced cruise missiles got out of their bunkers and onto a combat aircraft without notice of the wing commander, squadron commander, munitions maintenance squadron (MMS), the B-52H's crew chief and command pilot and onto another Air Force base tarmac without notice of that air base's chain of command -- for 10 hours.

Snip

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has asked Larry Welch, a former Air Force chief of staff, to lead an independent inquiry into the implications of the incident. That is in addition to the existing Air Force investigation headed by Maj. Gen. Douglas Raaberg, director of air and space operations at Air Combat Command, which is responsible for all Air Force bombers and fighters.

The questions that must be answered:

1 Why, and for what ostensible purpose, were these nuclear weapons taken to Barksdale?
2 How long was it before the error was discovered?
3 How many mistakes and errors were made, and how many needed to be made, for this to happen?
4 How many and which security protocols were overlooked?
5 How many and which safety procedures were bypassed or ignored?
6 How many other nuclear command and control non-observations of procedure have there been?
7 What is Congress going to do to better oversee U.S. nuclear command and control?
8 How does this incident relate to concern for reliability of control over nuclear weapons and nuclear materials in Russia, Pakistan and elsewhere?
9 Does the Bush administration, as some news reports suggest, have plans to attack Iran with nuclear weapons?
10 If this was an accident, have we degraded our military to a point where we are now making critical mistakes with our nuclear arsenal? If so, how do we correct this?



http://www.star-telegram.com/245/v-print/story/259201.html

[Kagemusha]

1. Well-written, guy seems to know his stuff.

I wish these questions would get answered.

I really, really doubt they will be.

[youngharry]

28. Nuclear weapons

The most major question is why have 6 members of this crew and/or those that handled the weapons on the ground are now dead in mysterious accidents since this event occurred on August 30th.

Who is investigating that?

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

40. 6 people related to the incident are dead?

Is this true? I haven't heard about that. Do you have any links? Thanks.

[midlife_mo_Jo]

45. SIX people dead?

Would you mind posting your source, please?

[Chomskyite]

2. Any other conspiracy theorists on tonight?

This could be the test run by Bushco to see if it could indeed load nuclear bombs onto a B-52 and fly it over the country without the Joint Chiefs' approval. But it didn't work. Somebody blabbed. Because there was plausible deniability built into the scheme, though, it just looks like a snafu.

[dickbearton]

29. This is not a conspiracy theory; but it could be another Bush/Chaney criminal conspiracy.

[autorank]

33. Coincidence theorist here;)

I think that this was foiled by much higher ups, the "sane" faction of "Management." Whenever there's
an undoing, take Foleygate, a story that had been around for years, it's helpful to ask yourself, "Self,
why now?" The why now here might be some sort of weird separate command of truly crazy pols and pals
who are on a mission. Maybe the "sane" faction has good enough intel to out this most dangerous
path but is yet unable to go public about their presence? Maybe the people that Foleygate got elected
need to do their jobs and have a blockbuster investigation and expose it all, instead of taking
great hearings and wasting them.

[Recursion]

38. And if you consider Brewster-Jennings / Plame ...

... then the administration has had it out for the "sane" faction for a while now...

[autorank]

48. It's a civil war...

...fought in the papers, courts, networks, and who knows where else...I'm sure the financial markets.

Brewster Jennings, here's an interesting theory:
=======================

Plame's Brewster-Jennings, not Wilson, True Target

by Crede Calhoun Page 1 of 1 page(s)
http://www.opednews.com


It is now clear that the Bush Administration committed treason with Scooters conviction. With RICO the man at the top is responsible.

It is also coming out that plans to destroy Plame’s covert CIA operation Brewster -Jennings was the real target and decided upon before Joe Wilson even wrote his article. The Joe Wilson smear spin is just that, spin that the MSM has swallowed hook line a sinker.

Brewster-Jennings was our Nations most important intelligence operation tracking Nuclear and WMD acquisition and development in the Middle East. Cheney and Bush wanted tnis destroyed so there would be no ‘pissant’ cia trying to meddle in their Iran and Iraq war plans.

It is also rumored that Plame's Brewster-Jennings just prior to Plames exposure had been instrumental in stopping a load of WMD headed for Iraq through Turkey, and it has been conjectured that this was the shipment and Bush operation to plant the WMD’s in Iraq

[Ghost Dog]

41. "Light of investigative journalism uncovers crazy politico/military factionism at highest levels"

...is not a MSM headline we'll likely see any time in the near future I presume.

op: "...This is about how six nuclear advanced cruise missiles got out of their bunkers and onto a combat aircraft without notice of the wing commander, squadron commander, munitions maintenance squadron (MMS), the B-52H's crew chief and command pilot and onto another Air Force base tarmac without notice of that air base's chain of command -- for 10 hours."

--> This should also be about how the 'error was discovered' and/or the 'plot was foiled'.

autorank: "...The why now here might be some sort of weird separate command of truly crazy pols and pals who are on a mission. Maybe the "sane" faction has good enough intel to out this most dangerous path but is yet unable to go public about their presence?"

--> Note how easy it becomes for such 'crazy factionism' to flourish when the mind-dumbing MSM refuses to investigate and publish stories about it. Stormer asks questions. We're not supposed to expect answers.

[autorank]

49. "Answers" - MSM doesn't have the brief for that sort of thing...

Here's my favorite analogy on MSM: If you went to Microsoft's public relations department and tried to sell them on popularizing Lunux and what a great system it is, would you expect them to do anything? The MSM aka CM are just that - PR shops for corporate interests who have government interests and who also kiss government ass to advance those interests.

To paraphrase, Matthew,

It's easier for an elephant to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for the truth to pass through the mouths of network s anchors.

[krispos42]

3. Question: Where are the nukes right now?

2:22 am Central Daylight Time, October 10th, 2007...


Where are they? Are they in a bunker in Louisiana? North Dakota?



Kuwait?

[Me.]

4. Never Believe

Anything they say. Have you ever met such a bunch of liars?

[Fridays Child]

51. Never.

[msedano]

5. question asked, question answered

1. none of your business.
2. none of your business.
3. if you don't support us, you're against us.
4. that's the kind of information spies, enemies of our country, and immigrants would ask.
5. let me see your papers. on tan sus papeles. donnez-moi votre votre carte d'identite.
6. up against the wall.
7. i told you not to move.
8. i'll call the ambulance after you answer a few questions.
9. don't pull that fake cardiac arrest bullroar on me.
10. dang, another accident. and another notch.

recommended.

[Toots]

22. You forgot main response, "We're Privileged and don't have to answer to anyone"

:shrug:

[mod mom]

23. You got that right. Too bad our Dems are playing softball while their playing w nukes.

Pretty darn scary. It doesn't matter if they're grossly incompetent or diabolically evil at this point. Either scenario is frightening.

:mad:

[leftchick]

6. two things that really bother me about this

I believe


1. cheney's secret government was caught in the act of tying to nuke Iran.

2. cheney's secret government's total lack of regard for what would happen to the US troops in Iraq if this were to happen. Both in terms of radiation fallout and in Iranian retaliation attacks.

these people are fucking insane and apparently that is okay with the democrats.

:scared:

[autorank]

34. 100% dead on accurate! n/t

[earth mom]

35. Exactly-& now they are gonna play their "games" in Portland, Phoenix & Guam next week

just like on 9/11 in NYC and on 7/7 in London!


And the mainstream media whores aren't reporting a damn thing about it to the public!


But the question I have is do people on DU even care? I really wonder. Why the hell isn't this THE story on DU right now?!!!!!!! :wtf:

[mod mom]

7. I never believed the nukes were for Iran because aren't there ships

already positioned that could launch nukes? (I would think any targets would be away from the precious oil fields)

I worried that either 1. used against our own troops in Iraq and blame the IRG, or 2. another MIHOP to further erode the constitution and set up martial law.

I really hope I am totally wrong here, but after 2000 we've been fed fear, lies and excuses for the massive raping & pillaging of public coffers to benefit an irrational agenda.

[hootinholler]

14. Well, there are nukes and then there are nukes...

These are really very specialized weapons with dial-a-yield from as low as 5KT to 150KT. You can't drop a 150MT bomb if you want to leave doubt of its origin, or need to do operations in the area after the boom.

-Hoot

[mod mom]

15. I did read they were adjustable and although I read the origin could be traced (just

like anthrax) can't it also be covered up-especially in a contaminated zone with little access? I have no expertise nor attempt to suggest that I do, only have taken interest in this episode.

[tanyev]

42. "Dick Cheney's top aide: "We're one bomb away" from our goal"

shared the White House's concern that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act might prevent wiretaps on international calls involving terrorists. But Goldsmith deplored the way the White House tried to fix the problem, which was highly contemptuous of Congress and the courts. "We're one bomb away from getting rid of that obnoxious court," Goldsmith recalls Addington telling him in February 2004.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/09/04/addington/

[Gold Metal Flake]

8. Any congresscritters looking into this? n/m

[Ezlivin]

11. It's on the agenda right after "investigate war crimes" and "impeach Bush"

Yeah, they're all over it....

[autorank]

26. ...and after we get "universal health care" and a restoration of "habeas corpus"...

:shrug:

[wicket]

9. K & R

[GliderGuider]

10. Nothing has changed my mind about this since the story broke

This is probably the most important story out there today. It's more important than the Iraq fraud, it's more important than 4,000 dead soldiers. It's even (slightly) more important than illegal wiretapping and detention without trial, but only slightly because they're all part of the same kettle of maggoty fish.

We've all been vouchsafed a glimpse of your government's plans for the future of the world, if we could only decipher them. "The roots of the tree of liberty" are looking a little parched these days.

[tridim]

12. I wonder what percentage of people don't even know this happened?

90%? 95%? I'm sure TV "news" hasn't been much help.

I still think Blackwater is involved in this somehow. Nothing builds up a private military quicker than having your own stolen warhead.

[Greyskye]

13. not a single person that I have mentioned this story to...

...has had any idea at all what I was talking about.

And that's really, really, sad.

[truedelphi]

31. If only Britney had been driving the vehicle that

These babies were in. (Then the media would have touted the tale.)

Where is that gurrl when we need her?

[Z_I_Peevey]

16. kick

[Kurovski]

17. Kick. Previously recommended.

I swear on my crown it was.

[TrogL]

18. There's already been a huge discussion about this

I'll post the link if I find it.

[Mnemosyne]

19. Do we know yet if one nuke is still missing? Remember it kept

changing when first reported; five, six, five, as I recall.

[truedelphi]

32. I'll never tell. And as far as that new storage shed

Out by the greenhouse - it's for the worm castings...

But if they do come for me, they will be *real* sorry.

[Mnemosyne]

44. Mmm, worms. n/t

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

20. WHO at the top was trying to deliver nukes and to whom!!!!!!

There is certainly some really malignant shit going on. It is time for answers!!!!

[lovuian]

21. its a heck of a question

thats for sure

[lonestarnot]

24. six (6) then?

[autorank]

30. Don't mess with Texas....this guy just said it in plain English. n/t

[me b zola]

25. k&r

[yardwork]

27. kick - demand answers and accountability from Washington

[bjobotts]

36. Left out this question. What happened to the nukes, where are they now?

[Islander Expat]

37. Cheney wants to use nukes, and butthole is stupid enough to di it

Bad farkin' combination of idiots in charge

[screembloodymurder]

39. If Cheney is behind this, he should be taken into custody asap.

This is the ultimate impeachable offense.

[Marrah_G]

43. He should be careful before they ship him to Bagdad

Retired only means retired unless we decide we really need you.

[reprehensor]

46. Le keeck.

{{punt}}

[Atman]

47. A minor point about posting articles...

First of all, I appreciate the thread. Great article, and I already posted it on my site, too. However...when you post links to original stories, especially ones in which you excerpt a fair amount of the story, you should link to the actual version, not the print version. It's a personal pet peeve, to be sure, but here's my reasoning; by posting the print version, #1, I don't know where this article is even from. The Times-Telegram. Great, but what city, state? While most "print" pages aren't typically this devoid of information, it's a good example.

Second, you deprive the newspaper/web site of ad tracking data and "eyeballs." I know many if not most won't care about this, but it's the only way these sites can afford to publish. The ads pay the bills, and the advertisers like to know they're getting seen. The print only version always leaves off the rest of the page content. It's just kinda not kosher, although I doubt I'll get widespread agreement on this one.

.

[warren pease]

50. Here's another very important article, the first one I've seen...

...that describes in precise detail the security protocols in place to even pull a nuclear warhead out of storage, much less load it in firing position and fly it across the country.

Missteps in the Bunker: Damage Control?

The original article has apparently been scrubbed from www.data4science.net, but it's archived in several places, including Rense (for what that's worth in terms of credibility)

I also did a recent article for Online Journal regarding upcoming exercises in Portland and linking the missing nuke(s) as a possible element in BushCo's anticipate nefarious behavior. You can read it here.

As always, it pays to expect the worst where BushCo is concerned. Anything less is a bonus.


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