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Perseid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:58 PM
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Is The Constitution Now Just a Worthless Piece of Paper?
has congress given up its oversight ability given by congress?

has the executive branch become a fascist entity?

has the judicial branch abdicated their duties?

Is the Constitution now just a worthless piece of paper?
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:59 PM
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1. Sure looks that way, doesn't it? n/t
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:00 PM
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2. Nope...
Makes a great window dressing!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:04 PM
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3. More accurately, a worthless piece of parchment. But wasn't there just a
vote to restore it or something similar? I'm getting them all confused. Asking for enlightenment. Thanks.




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Perseid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:06 PM
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4. all I can say to that is
:thumbsup:
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:13 PM
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5. well it is printed on hemp... and you know how they feel about hemp... n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:25 PM
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6. It's actually printed on parchment - I thought it was hemp, too, but I just
looked it up. Both the Declaration of Independence and The Constitution were drafted on hemp - maybe parchment was considered more formal or something for the actual document.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:49 PM
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7. Bush has been calling it a GDamn piece of paper for 6 yrs.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 10:13 PM
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8. ever read pig farm?
remember how slowly their ten rules would slightly change and over time their was but one rule? thats how i feel about the constitution right now.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 10:57 PM
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9. Here are the last four paragraphs of a book by Truman - Mr Citizen -
written after he returned to Missouri.

"I can make the categorical statement that no nuclear bomb can be triggered by any one person regardless of rank without the expressed and personal order of the President of the United States.

No one person is ever in a position to put together a nuclear bomb to be ready for action without involving a group of men who are required for this purpose. The precautions taken are fully adequate against any rash act.

I cannot, of course, to be sure of the circumstances surrounding the steps necessary to be taken under a totalitarian government. If some dictator should become involved in circumstances which might threaten his personal rule, there is no way of knowing whether or not he might not in a mad moment resort to a nuclear bomb.

We would all feel a lot better if there were some assurances that the world would never be subjected to such a madness. That is why we ought to control internationally all such weapons to assure the nations that no rash act by a power-mad dictator could plunge the world into disaster."

Well we have our Herr Dictators right here in River City, USA. And Truman could never have guessed that the dictator he references in his book could be our own Presidents-Dictators.

Look what they are doing to our Constitution. There is unbalance of power. Our dictators laugh at the Congress. They don't comply with answers to questions. They ignore subpoenas. They have partisan minions pull all the dirty tricks in the book and create some new ones. They have an AG who bows to them. They have a Federalist Society who tells them how and figures out how. They have billions for think tanker 'experts' (read partisans) who carry it out and act as public relations expert guests to explain it to us and endorse it for us, as required. They have captive military brass and gun-hos in the ranks. They have a dozen, two dozen tax paid intelligence diggers working in partisan pursuits. Most importantly, they have the Supreme Court.

And now we have Charles Savage with a new book saying Cheney has pursued this (unchecked power) for 30 years. (A thread about the book is on the same page as this thread.)

We have our own worst mad men with thousands of nuclear weapons and none that were truly lost last month.

It's pretty awful to lose things - especially nuclear weapons and our Constitution.

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 11:00 PM
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10. The Constitution is just a piece of paper with ink on it.
It means absolutely nothing if we, as a collective, do not stand up for the ideas written of in the Constitution. So far, this nation has not sought to undo all the damage inflicted upon it since the War on Drugs and the Red Scare. Thanks to the War on Drugs, the 4th Amendment is pretty much gutted, and we haven't started talking about the other 9 Amendments.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 11:02 PM
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11. The only strength of any Constitution is the People's willingness to defend it.
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 11:03 PM by TahitiNut
... with their lives, if necessary. It's OURS, not theirs.

Let me know when you see folks willing to do that. :shrug:

We've become a nation of people afraid of the politicians instead of politicians afraid of the people.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 11:08 PM
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12. Yes. Yes. Yes. No.
I suggest congress should do away with having to take their oath of office.

At least this way, they would "appear" to be honest (since they betray it forever after).
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