If Hillary does get the nomination, what are your plans?

[jpgray]

She's one of the least palatable candidates on the issues for me, yet her campaign is being run expertly in terms of how our campaigns work these days. Empty image marketing and disingenuous triangulation on the issues are absolutely necessary in this media climate. If you don't believe me, look at what happened to Gore, and what happens to Kucinich, Nader, etc. Look at the lauding of Reagan, the bent-over-backwards support of Bush, the mostly positive image coverage of Giuliani, Romney, et al. Most Americans support more progressive stances on the economy, Iraq, and almost all other major issues--so why do candidates like Hillary do so well while progressive candidates do so poorly?

A partial answer to that question is yet more questions: Why did Gore get treated so harshly? Why does Kucinich? Isn't our political climate today -designed- to help image-based PR masterpieces while ridiculing and ignoring more honest approaches to the issues and public life? Without the obsessive image and message control we've seen in every successful presidential run in the past twenty-four years, does a candidate even have a shot anymore? When changing your mind or thinking to the future is viewed as cowardice, is it media suicide to speak truthfully about the issues? Where does the disconnect happen? Gore's example brings up the question--can it even be stopped when media common wisdom makes you a "liar" even when you demonstrably tell no fibs? Even as your opponent lies baldly about his own fucking tax plan, a RNC tape of your sighs will be the news of the day on the debate.

If we agree that the current climate is utter poison to the sort of pols we want to see in office, how do you change that climate except through policy? And how can you change policy except through the politicians who get elected by that media climate, and thus have at least some vested interest in having it continue? Do you just get the most sympathetic person possible in office (that would still be Hillary, should she get the nom), or do you wash your hands of the system and hope it changes by osmosis or through protest at the ballot box and on the streets--both of which no one pays any attention to?

I'm committed to creating the most sympathetic environment for change possible. It's certain never to happen with the GOP in power, and it's likely never to happen with the Democrats. I'll take almost impossible over impossible myself, but what would be your choice? And what impact will that choice have?

[FormerDittoHead]

1. Hope that I stay employed or I'll lose my house over medical bills... n/t

[durrrty libby]

62. And you haven't worried about those things the past 6 years?

[liberaldemocrat7]

88. Either write in Al Gore, or vote for Hillary on the working families party in NY

That's what I plan to do.

or perhaps I will not vote for president but vote for congress and the other state and local races.

[mondo joe]

2. I'll buy about dozen Hillry nutcrackers to torment right wingers with. NT

[Dr. Strange]

106. Damn it mondo joe!

That was my idea! (Although, I was thinking about reselling them and making a fortune!)

[Rhythm and Blue]

3. Send her money. Volunteer a few days that summer. Vote for her.

Hope for the best.

[Larkspur]

4. Vote Socialist for Prez in the GE and Dem the rest of the ticket

[jpgray]

8. So it's more about personal morality in the GE in your opinion?

I ask that because a progressive vote that doesn't go to the Democrat in this election will indirectly aid the GOP. There are other considerations, such as whether the race is close in your state, but in general the above statement holds. Would you say that protest votes this year will have an impact on the political climate? Would you say Nader votes in 2000 (widely but inaccurately blamed by Democrats as being a major cause of Gore losing) moved the party left? Are Democrats likely feel the hurt of progressives running from Hillary yet still refuse to chase after those votes, as they've done in the past? Without IRV or public financing, is the climate likely to improve? That's what I'm struggling with.

[bluetrain]

78. In the end, I need to be able to respect myself on my deathbed and that day may come tomorrow or

it may come in fifty years. I know I would feel an enormous amount of shame to have voted for a fascist because I was bullied and fear-mongered into it and I know I feel at peace voting my conscience. Unless a sudden and unpredicted candidate enters the race whom I agree with more than Kucinich on the issues, Kucinich will get my vote in the Primary and in the GE. This is supposed to be a representative republic; none of the other candidates represent my values as much as Kucinich does. And I wish all the other people who agreed with his positions would let go of the Prom Committee Peer Pressure Bullshit and vote for the person who most represents their values instead of the candidate they've been told will win no matter what so resistance is futile, give in and give up. I still have hope that we can make the world a better place and I will not give in to the defeatist meme floating around this place which says that we must surrender to the corporatocracy because it is the only option. It isn't the only option; that's just another lie invented by the people whom it benefits.

[scorpiogirl]

90. I SO agree with you.

I don't want a candidate that's being shoved down our throats either. How's that democratic?

[Larkspur]

80. No, my vote will go to a Socialist, not a Repuke for Prez

I live in CT. If Hillary can't win CT she's doomed to lose the rest of the nation.

Hillary is a Corporate Welfare Queen who serves the Corporate Robber Barons, just like Repukes do. She favored war against Iraq and favors conflict with Iran. She and Bill both see each other as Eisenhower Republicans, not Democrats.

[RaleighNCDUer]

120. Whoa there.

"...a progressive vote that doesn't go to the Democrat in this election will indirectly aid the GOP."

"...Nader votes in 2000 (widely but inaccurately blamed by Democrats as being a major cause of Gore losing)..."

Which is it? Two contradictory statements within the same paragraph. Will a progressive vote not going to a Democrat indirectly aid the GOP, or was the similar Nader vote in 2000 inaccurately blamed for Gore's loss?

[wyldwolf]

87. you don't vote socialist already?

[MethuenProgressive]

5. I plan to vote for the Democratic candidate, no matter who it is.

That's my plan, and I'm sticking to it.

[ourbluenation]

me too. n/t

[bdamomma]

27. me three.

[onenote]

79. me four

[Goblinmonger]

100. me five

or six, I guess if you count the person right below me that replied to the original

[emilyg]

92. me,too

[Deep13]

6. Plans for what?

:shrug:
I'm not campaigning regardless of who wins. I knocked myself out in the past and have nothing to show for it. Besides, 2004 was the most impotant election in our lifetime, so this one is less important.

[Carolina]

72. I feel your pain

I did the same: 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006

My money and my energy ... all for naught even when we won in 2006! This go round, I really no longer give a rat's ass. I'll vote but that's it. No campaigning and absolutely NO MONEY.

[Nedsdag]

110. Same here.

It's not change, it's more of the same.

No watching debates, not give a rat's ass of who the running mate will be. Nothing.

[Erva]

7. Vote Dem and hope for the best n/t

[DFW]

9. To vote for her, of course

I refuse to take my marbles home because my team didn't win.
If a Republican picks the next Supreme Court Justice, we ALL
lose, and lose big.

If someone can't vote her due to their conscience, I fully, if
sadly, accept that, but they should equally as fully accept the
consequences, as should Nader voters from 2000.

No one has any business accepting the "no difference" ploy of 2000.

Disagree with her? Fine. So do I. But risk Mitt Romney nominating
some Scalia clone to the court if Stevens' big heart gives out? Never.

[RaleighNCDUer]

57. I will vote for lefty dems down ticket and probably leave the top

spot blank.

She will NOT appoint anyone much better than a repub will, but who she does nominate will see little opposition because of the dem majority in congress, resulting in a continuation of corporate influence and the prison industy. She will do nothing to reverse the trend of imperial presidency. Strong dems down-ticket will emasculte her or actually oppose repubs; it is up to congress to preserve the constitution, whether she or a repub is the winner.

[leftynyc]

97. So you don't think there is any difference

in Ginsberg/Breyer (last two supremes appointed by a dem) and Roberts/Alito? You honestly think Clinton would put a Scalia on the court? Honestly?

[RaleighNCDUer]

122. A Scalia? No. A Kennedy? Absolutely. A Breyer? Absolutely not.

The ONLY position that can be counted on is a justice who will not overturn R v W. Her nominee would be a pro-business, anti-drug, pro-prisons non-progressive because she does NOT have the guts for a real fight - one that she might lose. There's is NOTHING she abhors more than appearing weak, or a loser, and in any real fight there is always a chance you might lose.

[DFW]

107. Have to disagree with you on that one

The Clintons are as chummy with Stephen Breyer as Cheney is with Scalia.
Eyewitness reporting here. Breyer is their (and my) kind of SC Justice,
not Anthony Kennedy, and certainly no one even further to the right.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

10. volunteer for her. vote for her and hope and pray that other people do too. nt

[book_worm]

11. work for the democratic ticket and vote for her in November

[slackmaster]

12. Invade Canada

Seriously, this is starting to look way too much like a rerun of 1968.

All we need is for Southern conservative Democrats to form a splinter party.

[jpgray]

18. I saw a thread here asking for another 1968 convention, and that sounded nuts to me

How much that solidified Nixon as a the "law and order" candidate and undermined Humphrey's potential voter base, I don't believe we'll ever fully know. The protesters had a right to do what they did, but activism for an issue and political strategy to make one's stance on that issue policy sometimes don't mix.

[Clark2008]

40. There are more conservative Dems in the mid-west.

Most Southern Democrats are African-American and subscribe to a fairly liberal platform.

[RaleighNCDUer]

59. They already did - it's call the DLC. nt

[Mrs. Overall]

13. She may not be my first choice, but I will certainly vote for her.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. I'll be voting for the most progressive, anti-war, candidate on the ballot.

Or, write one in.

[skipos]

15. I couldn't live with myself if I didn't do everything in my power to prevent

a Republican from winning in 2008. Hillary is my last choice for the nomination, but I am not buying the "there's no difference between the Dem and the Repub" lie for 2008. I didn't buy that lie in 2000 either.

[bpeale]

16. i'm going to get a passport now

and be prepared to leave the u.s. forever. i will give up completely on either party.

[jpgray]

21. Don't we have a responsibility to those without the means to leave?

Or do we just have a responsibility to ourselves?

[bpeale]

30. at that point it is every man for himself

the lazy uninformed voters will get exactly what they deserve & who am i to deprive them of the experience?

[Marrah_G]

70. I always find it wierd that people assume the rest of the world will let them move on in.

[ronnykmarshall]

102. See ya!

[robcon]

17. If she gets the nom, I will be working to get her elected.

Although my state, NY, is something of an easy state for her to get the votes, I'll be volunteering for her campaign here or in Connecticut, the state next to me.

[flvegan]

19. My plans? Why, to enlist, of course.

Because once she takes the WH, which she surely will, the military will be more than just a bunch of "commas" for Commander Cuckoobananas to send off to occupy a foreign land for an undetermined amount of time.

Oh, wait...nevermind.

[Cha]

20. I don't fucking worry

about shit like that unless it happens. Sorry.

[blondeatlast]

22. What zidzi said. nt

[Cha]

29. Oh bo-y!

:D

[WilliamPitt]

23. I'm going to celebrate my ass off, watch the congressional returns,

go to bed, wake up, eat my Wheaties, and get busy helping them win...so I can then kick the shit out of the new president and new congress until a bunch of things get fixed.

Clinton, Edwards, Obama, Kucinich, or Joe Shit The Rag-Man...whichever Dem wins the nomination is my candidate. Period.

[CrispyQ]

24. I can't stand HRC & will absolutely hate voting for her, but I will.

Her SCOTUS appointments will be corporate, but not nearly as odious as any of the GOPs.

[adadem]

49. I second that emotion.

Have no other choice. All I hope for is that Al Gore will jump in the race.

[JNelson6563]

25. Make big money for my local party

off of swag for the national ticket. We will then fund local and state level races with that money.

:toast:

Julie

[Tarc]

26. Leaning towards Barack Obama in the primaries, but...

If Hillary Clinton wins, I'll certainly vote for her. For all the faults that people find in her here, we can still be assured that we won't be getting a president that will nominate Clarence Thomas clones to the Supreme Court, will not favor zealot religious faith over established science (i.e. environmental concerns, stem cell issues, FDA appointees, etc...), and so on.

There's also the fact that the Congressional majorities are a virtual lock to increase next year.

[momto3]

28. Vote for her. eom

[Hell Hath No Fury]

31. I will be writing in my Democratic candidate...

of choice.

Since the last election, when I was forced to vote for two Democrats who had helped Bush with their IWR votes, I have said that 2008 is going to be my "tough love" year for the Dems. I have voted Dem since I cast my first ever vote for Jimmy Carter. I have voted for some Dem presidential candidates enthusiastically, some solely because of the "D" after their name.

I am done with that -- especially if Hillary is the nominee. I was on the verge of doing the old "hold my nose" thing in 2008, even if she were the nominee, but her recent Iran resolution vote and her unwillingness to committ to having troops out of Iraq by the end of her first term were the breaking points for me.

I will not willingly enable someone I find to be dangerous for the country.

I live in blue California -- if she can't win my state without my vote, she is doomed anyway. :shrug:

[Carolina]

73. love your

name, your post and your sentiments. My first vote was 1972, always Dem, and I totally agree: I was pissed at Kerry and Edwards for their IWR votes. But no more of this crap, no more helping enablers!

HRC cannot win in my reddest of red states, so it won't matter if I vote for her or not.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

84. My name was inspired...

by the 2000 Selection -- Hell Hath No Fury Like A Voter Scorned. :)

I argued and argued with several DUers in 2004 who were talking about not voting for Kerry/Edwards because of their IWR votes and willingness to continue the Iraq madness. I hit all the points: any Dem is better than a GOPer, it's about the Supreme Court, they may have to say questionable things during the campaign so they can get elected, and on and on. Here we are, four years later, and I am the one that is saying "Enough!"

After six years of political education, and watching too much of the Democratic Party fold, enable, betray, and engage in the worst kind of poltics, I recognized that I have become part of the problem.

I have become a Democratic enabler.

From here on in, it is "tough love" all the way.

A few weeks ago I sent a letter to all the presidential candidates, the Party leaders, and the Congressional leaders telling them that they will lose my vote if the eventual candidate does not come out strongly against a permanent military presence in Iraq.

And I damn well mean it.

My vote is theirs to lose.

It's up to them -- either they want my vote or they don't. :shrug:

[Carolina]

96. Ditto

My pissed-off-ivity actually goes back to the 1968 campaign and Nixon's secret plan to get us out of Vietnam. Yeah, right ... his secret plan was dirty tricks and it wasn't about Vietnam. It was about stealing elections; people forget that despite all the upheaval in 1968, the Humphrey-Nixon race was close. If all the Watergate thugs and those who cut their political teeth under Nixon had been brought to justice, we might not be where we are today.

My anger got ratcheted up in 1993 when the MSM didn't even give Clinton a 100-day honeymoon! The talking heads and the GOP -- a minority then cause Dems had the WH, House and Senate! -- went after him from day one, actually November 4th 1992, the day after the election. The Dems were fractious and weak even then and let stand unchallenged much of what was said...

Then came theft 2000 and like you, I didn't think I could get any madder. Even when so many Dems caved in October 2002, I still kept plugging away in campaigns and contributing money because the thinking was that any Dem was better than a repuke even one (or a duo) who voted 'yea' on IWR and had to know what * was going to do with that IWR authorization since anyone with an ounce of cerebral cortex knew.

But now, I have had it. I agree HHNF, enough is enough. :hi:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

111. That's what kills me...

If the Nixon crowd had been spanked properly back in the day, we may not have been faced with all the same ol' bullshit we've seen under Raygun and Jr. because it's the same damn people behind it all. :mad:

And I am willing to bet hard money all the criminal activity under Jr. will be brushed under the rug by the next President -- even a Democrat -- and we will be facing the same fucks and their crimes in the future.

It just about killed me to vote for Kerry/Edwards because of just how hard they defended the IWR vote during their campaign. Kucinich and Sharpton were the only two candidates telling the truth about Iraq and I admired them greatly for it.

Then we have Rahm Emmanuel pushing the conservative Blue Dogs/New Democrats/Third Way bullshit and proudly taking money from the same, corrupting corporate shills the GOP has been.

I mean, really now, what are we supposed to do when faced with that shit??? Bend over an take it, some would say.

I am done getting screwed without lube. :hi:

[fenriswolf]

32. if that happens

I'm gonna learn to sing "O Canada"

[Phillycat]

33. I'll vote for whomever the nominee is.

And if we lose again, my husband and I have plans to move to Europe.

[lateo]

34. Supporting a 3rd party candidate.

I refuse to compromise my principles any longer.

[Rhythm and Blue]

38. That worked really well for the Nader-voters in 2000.

You know, if just one percent of them in Florida had decided to compromise their principles and vote for Gore, Bush never would have happened.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

42. well they said that nade was going to change the world, they were wrong

bush however did change the world and made it a much shittier place.

[lateo]

63. Having LIEberman on the ticket

really helped Gore in 2000.

Truth hurts.

[Rhythm and Blue]

66. If Gore hadn't stuck Lieberman as his running mate, maybe he would have won.

If 1% of FL Nader voters had voted for Gore, he certainly would have won.

Both are true, yes.

[againes654]

35. I guess I am askin for punishment

when I answer these types of posts.

Disclaimer: I live in Texas which will undoubtly go red.

I will NEVER vote for Hillary in ANY election.

Flame away, I am getting used to it.

[leftchick]

46. no flame from me

I agree 100%!

[againes654]

53. Thanks leftchick

:toast:

[leftchick]

74. hey I will drink to that!

:toast:


who the hell would want more of this......

[bobbolink]

60. That's why I said I won't post my plans on DU.

There are those who get a lot of enjoyment from stomping on someone with different opinion.

There are more of us who agree with your stand than you may know.

Hang in there!

:thumbsup:

[againes654]

65. Thanks that is really good to know

even though on this issue if I had to stand alone, I will. But it is good to know there are others out there even if I don't always see it.

[bobbolink]

89. You're definitely not alone. We just don't invite flames.

It's very sad, especially given how loudly people proclaim "freedom of speech".

But, the attacks here on people who are sick and tired of the whole mess, and the attacks on those who are labeled "leftist" are just ridiculous!

We're all in this together. Some of us just have more armor than others. :/

Maybe we need a seperate forum for "leftists". :hi:

[Carolina]

75. Agree:

I will NEVER vote for Hillary in ANY election.

I'm in a very red state as well and my vote won't matter, so I'll join you in the flames :hi:

[Richard Steele]

36. I plan to get used to hearing the phrase, "President Guliani". nm

[AlGore-08.com]

37. She hasn't run an expert campaign -- the media have decided she is running an expert campaign

The press could have decided at a number of points that her campaign is in trouble: her donors, campaign staff and advisers do not seem to have been vetted (Hsu, Mark Penn, Sandy Berger, etc.). Far too much of what she says is on a continuum of non-committal to flip-flop (she won't come out and say what she thinks works in NAFTA and what doesn't, she votes for Kyl-Lieberman then wants to co-sponsor Webb's "keep your paws off Iran" bill, etc.). When she gets frustrated, she expresses herself in a way that sounds a wee bit Nixonian in the paranoia department (every candidate got booed at the Yearly Kos, when she did, she said "I was waiting for that! Now this experience is complete!"; the way she told that guy in Iowa that someone had sent him bogus info on her Kyl-Lieberman vote; saying that Obama must be "stealing" donors, etc.) And when one of her rivals challenges her in any meaningful way, her campaign responds with a variation on "They're just desperately lashing out because they're loosing so bad". She and Bill Clinton don't always seem to be in sync, message wise - - during one of the first back and forths with Obama about foreign policy, where she was definitely trying to distinguish herself as more experienced and knowledgeable, Bill Clinton said to the press that there wasn't any real difference between their positions.

Then there are her positions themselves - - her vote for the IWR, her lack of an aggressive "bring the troops home now" plan, her "mandatory insurance" health plan, etc.

Any of those alone could be used by the press to show that the Clinton campaign is "in trouble". In the 2000 Republican primary, McCain got glowing press and Bush got dumped on - - until McCain tanked, and then the press changed its collective mind and started pimping Bush. They could change their collective minds about the Hillary Clinton campaign at any moment. If she looses the primary or the general, one of these will be picked by the press to become The Moment, The Big Mistake That Blew The Election in conventional wisdom.

But a softer treatment by the press does not ensure victory. If folks go back and compare the treatment Kerry got with the treatment Gore got, it's abundantly clear that Kerry was treated better by the press. Bush and the GOP peddled B.S. about Kerry's service and his voting record, etc. But the press did not go on a two year long war to destroy Kerry's character and derail his campaign. They actually printed some negative things about Bush in 2004, rather than writing puff pieces about how great and moral he was 24/7. But in the end, Bush carried the day.

For these reasons, I think we should not compare the media's treatment of HRC with other candidates or decide her campaign is flawless until after her campaign is over.

[Clark2008]

39. Pray she picks Wes Clark as her VP or prepare for another

four years with a Republican president.


:shrug:

[HughBeaumont]

41. I'll write in Al Gore.

Democratic candidates should NOT support war continuation.

Democratic candidates should NOT leave "all options on the table" regarding sovereign nations that never threatened one American citizen.

Democratic candidates should NOT support a brand of predatory and unbridled capitalism that allows for a worker race to the bottom via job offshoring and Visa increases.

Democratic candidates should support unprecedented universal, Big-Insurance-free health care, not a plan that's STILL Big Insurance-controlled and would now be required for a job.

Having no choice between two major parties is a wasted vote and a wasted democracy. Is it too much to ask a candidate to actually BE the opposition? Is it too much to ask a Democratic candidate to take strong progressive stands and stick by them?

I voted for Gore and Kerry, BTW. Good ideas, bad campaigners. The problem now is not bad campaigning. It's a bad candidate.

To hell with Hillary. We can do better. We NEED to do better.

[opihimoimoi]

43. Together we Stand...divided we Fall...the Pubs know this...is why they come to divide us...

[karlrschneider]

44. Vote for the Democratic nominee. Why is this even a question?

:wtf:

[Marrah_G]

45. I will volunteer and fight to get her elected.

4 more years of Republican rule will certainly destroy our country permanently.

Anyone who refuses to support her "if" she gets the nod is no better then a RWer in my book and wants the country to fail to bring forth the rise of their own imaginary Utopia.

She is not my choice, but I will support her over the alternative which (if you live in reality) is another neo-con bastard.

[npincus]

47. same here.

[RaleighNCDUer]

61. What is the dividing line between neo-con and neo-lib? nt

[bobbolink]

48. To not speak about my plans at DU, so I won't get flamed.

The "freedom of speech" is soooo very friendly here.....

[jpgray]

50. Disagreement seems fine to me--I don't think it's all that oppressive

[bobbolink]

52. Maybe you're one who enjoys flamefests and yelling at other Dems

Some of us are sick of it.

[mondo joe]

54. Nice change of topic.

If you're sick of something, don't do it.

Nothing in that gives you the freedom to use others resources to support your rants.

[mondo joe]

51. You have freedom of speech. You don't have the freedom to use others

resources to subsidize your speech.

[mondo joe]

55. I will be all about supporting her for President. EOM

[Mz Pip]

56. Vote for her

The SCOTUS is at stake. Hillary will not appoint another Scalia or Alito.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Sparkly]

58. I'd do what I could to help her win. nt

[Tesha]

64. Write in Gore? It's a bit early to tell.

It's a bit too early to tell. If New Hampshire is a
cliff hanger, I'll think long and hard about whether
or not to support the DLC's latest bid to capture
the party. But the odds grow slimmer with every
move that Hillary (and her supporters) make.

But if New Hampshire is a blow-out either way, then
there's no concern at all with my not voting for Hillary
and what I do will depend on factors that are not yet
in evidence (like who else is running).

I might write-in Gore. I might write-in Kucinich.

I might vote for actual lefties-on-the-ballot rather
than the DLC's pretend lefty when it's convenient for
her.

We'll see...

Tesha

[Az]

67. I will vote for Hilary if she gets the nomination

I am not a fan of Hilary's but I am by no means in the Hilary haters club. What is it about here that whips both the right and the left into a frenzy? The right seems to think she is liberalism personified (where the heck do they get that idea) and many on the left think she is somehow worse than what we have now.

Hilary? Better or worse than George W Bush? That is the only question I would consider in my vote if it came down to her being the Dem candidate.

[Throd]

68. Not to vote for her

[backscatter712]

69. Open sedition.

I'm sorry, but Hillary crossed the line when she hired Mark Penn, who also works for Blackwater. That was the last straw for me. I'll never support her. Never.

If she gets the nomination, and anyone with the exception of Ron Paul gets the nomination for the GOP, I think this nation's irreversibly screwed.

[sniffa]

71. dread the next 4 years

maybe even might say "i toLd you so" a few times.

[Buns_of_Fire]

76. I'll vote for the Dem nominee. What other choice is there?

I won't necessarily LIKE it. But, to rephrase an old saw, it's pretty much not about voting for "the lesser of two evils" -- it may wind up about voting between "evil" and "MORE evil."

Could anyone in their right mind vote for Rudy-Toot or Mitt the Twitt?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

77. Vote for her.

[mod mom]

81. Write in Al Gore and will only volunteer/donate to other dem (progressive) candidates.

I do not support the corporate take over of this country and will not be any part of promoting HRC or any other DLC candidate.

[Semper_FiFi]

82. I'm going to Disneyland!

after I vote for her. I will vote for pretty much anyone who runs as the Dem in the GE (there is one I might not vote for, but I will not say who that is). I will donate money to her campaign and I will go and do what I can to see that we have a Dem in office. We cannot afford to have a repug pick any more Supreme Court Justices, that is one of my primary fears.

[Stinky The Clown]

83. I plan to get up the next morning ...... pee ....... brush my teeth ...... wash my face ......

.... and get on with life.

Pretty much the same as now.

What do you mean by "what do you plan to do?"

Is hari kari an option?

[renie408]

94. This is sort of what I was thinking.

I was wondering if I would see answers like "Run screaming down the street, ripping my hair out."

[demhistorian]

85. put up a Hillary yard sign, phone bank, canvass neighborhoods and

laugh my ass off at the GOP (and some Dems)

[mdmc]

86. she will get my loathing

and my NYS electoral vote.:shrug:

Best to stay out her way. She will be the next president.

[LoZoccolo]

91. Vote for Hillary!

I'm somewhat on the fence between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, so either one would be fine. They seem similar in policy to me. I see Obama as being stronger at positive campaigning and Clinton as stronger at steering out of attacks on her, and I'm not sure which approach will be more effective this season. I'd love for there to be an environment where the positive vision wins the day but I'm not sure we're there yet. If they both ended up on the ticket for President and Vice President I think they would be unbeatable.

[Jacobin]

93. But stocks in the military sector?

:shrug:

[renie408]

95. Beat my breast? Stock up on sackcloth and ashes? Try to figure out how to go on with my life?

Probably not. Sadly, I am morally bankrupt and I will buy a Hillary/_______ bumpersticker and vote for her when the time comes.

SCOTUS. SCOTUS. SCOTUS. SCOTUS. SCOTUS. SCOTUS. SCOTUS. SCOTUS. SCOTUS. SCOTUS. SCOTUS. SCOTUS. SCOTUS.

[Vogon_Glory]

98. My Plans--I'll Campaign For Hillary

My plans? I'll campaign for Hillary. Six-plus years of Buckaroo Bush in the White House tells me that any Democrat to the left of Joe Lieberman is preferable to what the GOP is likely to foist on us.

I think that Hillary's smart and well-organized. I think she'll do well for the country in spite of the GOP and the untrustworthy, suggestible, sorry-a@@ molehills-into-mountains scandal-mongering corporate media.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

99. I'd write in Gore.

[Rhythm and Blue]

101. Now *that* would be high irony. nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

103. How so?

[Rhythm and Blue]

104. Like so:

Gore lost in 2000 in part because a large contingent of liberals believed he was a Republican lite, a corporate stooge, and a sellout, and instead voted for Ralph Nader.

In 2008, a large contingent of liberals believe Hillary Clinton is a Republican lite, a corporate stooge, and a sellout, and are planning on writing in Al Gore.

Can't you see the irony there?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

105. Not really.

They were wrong about Gore.

[walldude]

109. True, problem was Gore never took any steps to insure

that people saw they were wrong about him. I was one of those Nader voters. Funny thing was when I met Gore sometime after the election and asked him about it he told me he should have never let his "handlers" define who he was. I also saw in a recent Vanity Fair article how the Clinton's spent most of their time getting Hillary in the Senate and used none of their political muscle to help Gore. I have been personally blamed for Gore losing the election on DU many times, but Gore let me off the hook. Shows the difference between a armchair political hack, and an actual politician.

[RaleighNCDUer]

116. The difference is, those who are informed knew the truth about

Gore, just as they know the truth about Hillary.

Then, the uninformed voted against Gore - today, they vote for Hillary.

[11 Bravo]

108. I plan to vote for the Democratic nominee, whoever he or she may be.

[debbierlus]

112. I will put all my energy in supporting lower tier progressive candidates

[Pastiche423]

113. Write-in Al Gore

[MasonJar]

114. I am going to vote for the democratic nominee, whomever the majority

puts on the ticket. I'd love it to be Gore, but Hillary is fine if Gore does not run. All the rest of you need to pledge right now just as Howard Dean did in 2004 that you will support the nominee.

[SaveElmer]

115. Party for a day...then get to work on November...nt

[helderheid]

117. I'm going to Disneyland. n/t

[ismnotwasm]

118. I'll vote for her n/t

[FreeStateDemocrat]

119. Leave the Democratic Party after over 50 years of supporting it.

Hillary's coronation will mean the corporations have bought, paid for and have taken complete and permanent ownership of our party. Fuck the Ruling Class and the corporate whores who take their money and do their bidding. The real Democratic Party will be completely dead. "See You On the Barricades" Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

[scarletwoman]

121. I'll vote for a Democrat, I'll just have to do a write-in vote. (nt)