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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:05 AM
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ABC: Now It's Personal: Al Qaeda Calls Bush an Alcoholic Liar
Now It's Personal: Al Qaeda Calls Bush an Alcoholic Liar
February 13, 2007 12:30 AM

Brian Ross Reports:

The latest taped statement from al Qaeda is an unusually personal attack on President Bush, in which al Qaeda's No. 2 in command, Ayman al Zawahiri, denounces Bush as "an alcoholic, liar and gambler with an addictive personality."

Zawahiri delivers the attack in a 40-minute audio tape released overnight on Internet sites, and relayed to ABC News by an American terror analyst, Laura Mansfield.

On the tape, Zawahiri also condemns American Democrats "as one side of the same coin of tyranny, criminality and failure" for failing to challenge Bush policies as they said they would in the election.

The tape, apparently aimed at an American audience, contains English subtitles and a warning that American civilians are responsible for Bush policies because they "chose Bush twice."

more at:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/02/now_its_persona.html
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:08 AM
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1. Well we know he is a drunk and a liar So What's new Lol
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Clinton_Co_Regulator Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:44 PM
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55. LOL This shows how behind the times the A Q thugs are.
We've known all this for a decade now.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:10 AM
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2. He is and I didn't chose ** once, let alone twice.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:37 PM
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30. Exactly.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:10 AM
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3. Dumb-assed media. It's been personal all along.
Here you are, a day late and a dollar short.

AND, I don't think the man is too far off with Dems this time either.

Feel free to incinerate me now.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:19 AM
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7. I agree with you. So far, the Democrats have done little but posture.
And, as a group, still seem unable to articulate what their actual position is on Iraq, Iran, the Military Commissions Act, the Patriot Act II, or any number of issues. Someone said we should be patient until the investigations start turning up "the goods"; but I asked for a list of current investigations, other than Waxman's, and got no reply...
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:14 AM
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4. So al Qaeda don't believe the election was stolen either
How...convenient.
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:14 AM
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5. I hope that Al Qaeda doesnt start in with the shrub and "yo mamma" jokes
He has Oedipal Issues (sp) and would not hesitate to whip out his nu-cu-lar phallic replacement and commence with the whole "sand into glass" thing that we all fear.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:18 AM
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6. Al Queda never heard about election fraud? They were all over Florida
around and about late 2000. Don't tell me they missed the story?
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:21 AM
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8. As much as I hate these al Qaeda bastards
I have to admit they are right. But then the whole world knows this.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:28 AM
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12. Even a blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut
In this case, the nut is obvious to everyone.
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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:15 AM
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19. Hilarious reply....love it!!!
You almost owe me a new keyboard. :rofl: :applause: :rofl:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:19 AM
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21. I'm glad you liked it - and welcome to DU!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:25 AM
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24. ROFL, best
reply ever!

And is anyone else just a tad bit suspicious of this? Doesn't the message and the wording seem just a little TOO convenient, especially since they're banging the Iran war drums and are trying to get past the fact that they're playing the same tune they played from the Iraq War Build-up Symphony? And, ESPECIALLY considering *'s basement-level approvement ratings?
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:23 AM
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9. They have a point.
:kick:
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:25 AM
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10. I wish 'alcoholic liar' was all 'WE' had to worry about.............
the 'problem-in-chief' is much MORE SERIOUS than THAT!!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:25 AM
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11. You mean it's *not* because they hate our freedom?
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 10:29 AM by BurtWorm
It's because they hate *Bush*?

:think:
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SweetGrass Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:46 AM
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16. I don't know...
I'll just take a wild guess and suggest they hate you and me just as much as they hate Bush, just for being Americans.

Personally, I draw the line at high-fiving these freaks.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:28 AM
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13. Well, I guess PM Howard has to take back what he said about
Barack Obama and American Democrats now. :sarcasm:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:21 AM
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22. PM Howard will never be able to take back what he said.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:32 AM
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14. Finally, somebody speaks the truth, just like the 'Emperor has no clothes!'
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junkiebrewster Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:35 AM
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15. Hopefully
"On the tape, Zawahiri also condemns American Democrats "as one side of the same coin of tyranny, criminality and failure" for failing to challenge Bush policies as they said they would in the election."

Hopefully, this sentence will get rid of that "Democrats as the party of Al Queda" claptrap. But I doubt it.
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:29 PM
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53. I doubt it too
My first thought upon reading this was, "Oh, sh*t! Members of Al Qaeda are now saying what reasonable Americans have been saying all along...now the right wing is going to go even more crazy about the 'fact' that Al Qaeda <3 Democrats, & vice versa. F*ck." :banghead:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:51 AM
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17. Some tough love from Ayman al Zawahiri toward the president, eh
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:00 AM
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18. This is not news to anybody. Even the Kool-Aid drinkers must realize * has problems.
The fact that he is the most powerful man in the free world, and a drunk and a liar is a concern, however.

The Democratic Congress is going to have to deal with him one way or the other. To allow him to continue as he has been without intervening makes the Dems an accomplice in his dirty deeds. The Dems need to put their foot down now and stop this dangerous man.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:16 AM
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20. Shows al Qaeda is much more informed than
George W. Bush was ever on Iraq ...
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demrabble Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:24 AM
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23. Truth to Power
It must really suck to be Bush.

He -- and the people who voted for him -- now must listen to the Truth:

Bush is a drunk.

Bush is a liar.

Those who voted for Bush are responsible for the mess -- and the reactions to the mess -- they inflicted on the rest of the world by electing that sack of shit. Twice. The Supreme Court is doubly responsible for the mess.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:29 AM
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25. ...what's with all this agreeing??and joking??
I realize U.S. foreign policy is screwed up and has caused anomosity/contributed to terrorism BUT!

'Al Qaeda' can kiss my motherfucking ass.I give not one god damn flying fuck what Al Qeada has to say about my Government/Politics.
When they are brought to justice for the incomprehensible slaughter of thousands,both in America and around the world,I will care - until then nothing regarding them interests me.

They should thank their fucking lucky stars we have a lying alcoholic lunatic in office because if we didn't???THEY wouldn't have the ability to be giving out taped statements like this.We would've come after them and NEVER stopped had we had a sane,intelligent President seated at the time of their vicious attack against innocents!

FUCK AL QAEDA.


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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:42 PM
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32. How many has Al Qaeda slaughtered?
And how many has Bush slaughtered?

And how many Americans has Bush slaughtered?
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:46 PM
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33. This thread makes me so angry.
No wonder people think Dems are soft on Terror.We are talking about Al Qaeda,they are the terorist organization that flew into the world trade towers?Remember??Al Qaeda,Bin Laden?The ones that Bush wanted dead or alive and then later said he didn't know or really care where they/he was?
Have some freakin' pride will ya????I know our national morale as a country is down but jeez!These people would as soon shoot you in the face as they would Bush,Clinton,Gore,Obama,Clark,Martin Luther and Abraham Lincoln himself!

It is irrelevant if we agree with their statement about Bush.THEY SHOULD BE BEHIND BARS!
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SweetGrass Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 04:31 PM
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35. I'm with you.
The general response to this has been a total disgrace. I refuse to kiss the asses of these murderous thugs for ANY reason. :mad: "No wonder people think the Dems are soft on Terror" indeed.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 07:02 PM
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59. Bush is an alcoholic liar no matter who says it
Calm down.

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SweetGrass Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 04:39 PM
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37. Unbelievable.
Al Qaeda is now morally better than Bush. You read it here first! :argh:

You raise an interesting question though. How many HAS Al Qaeda slaughtered? Any idea?? I mean total.

Do you ever wonder how they'd treat you if they had the chance, or do you suppose they'd give you a big hug and say, "Let's go have a beer and criticize Bush together"?
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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:20 PM
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39. Just pointing out the contradictions
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 05:21 PM by Jonathan50
I honestly don't think Al Qaeda has killed nearly as many as Bush has.

There are something like 600,000 dead in Iraq, thanks to Bush and his lies.

Terrorism is simply a tactic used by the weak against the strong.

Once a terrorist, always a terrorist, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

The King David Hotel bombing (July 22, 1946) was a bombing attack against the British government of Palestine by members of Irgun — a militant Zionist organization.

The Irgun, dressed as Arabs, exploded a bomb at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which had been the base for the British Secretariat, the military command and a branch of the Criminal Investigation Division (police). Ninety-one people were killed, most of them staff of the secretariat and the hotel<1>: 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 other. Around 45 people were injured.

The attack was initially ordered by Menachem Begin, the head of the Irgun, who would later become Israeli Prime Minister. The attack was commanded by Yosef Avni and Yisrael Levi.


It's a good thing the US never supported the Begin goverment, we would have been supporting a terrorist.

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SweetGrass Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:38 PM
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42. Whatever. Let me ask you this.
Would you rather fly on a 747 with Bush, or a member of Al Qaeda?
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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:07 PM
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44. What does that have to do with anything?
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 06:09 PM by Jonathan50
I see you completely ignore my point that Menachem Begin was a terrorist leader, much like Osama bin Laden.

Why would that be?

Who has killed more human beings, Bush or bin Laden?

Who is causing more fear in the world today, Bush or bin Laden?

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SweetGrass Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:18 PM
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50. You're the one...
...who tried to suggest that a president of the United States was more of a threat to the world than a brutal, merciless terrorist organization bent on world domination - that's what it has to do with "anything". I wanted to get to the heart of which one you fear more, in practical terms. I'll ask again, re-framing the question: If you were on a 747 and found out a) Bush was onboard, or b) a person with sworn allegiance to Al Qaeda was onboard, with whom would you feel more safe?

Take your time.
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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 07:09 PM
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60. You answer a few of my questions and then I'll answer your's
I'll just point out that GW Bush controls literally thousand of nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them to any point on the globe.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml

President George W Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals.

In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"


When you talk to God it's called 'prayer', when God talks to you it's called 'schizophrenia'

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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 07:11 PM
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61. "brutal, merciless terrorist organization bent on world domination"
'bout sums up the Bush administration. Listen, imperialist colonial governments and profiteering by corrupt politics CREATED Al Qaeda et. all. We don't have to think terrorists are all warm and fuzzy in order to point out the historical basis for why they exist.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:22 PM
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40. Do you think that reflects the general mindset of DU? Are you concerned?
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SweetGrass Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:37 PM
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41. I wasn't clear?
I'm just reading the threads on this, like everyone else. The consensus opinion seems pretty straightforward to me. How are you interpreting the responses?



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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:09 PM
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45. You kinda dodged the question...
Who's responsible for more human suffering, George Bush or Al Qaeda?
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SweetGrass Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:25 PM
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51. So what? Al Qaeda's *goal* is terror and human suffering.
And I hope the United States and its allies inflict plenty of hurt on them in return. Does that disqualify me from being a Democrat? I surely hope not.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:26 PM
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52. You're still dodging the question.
Which one's caused more human suffering?

Al Qaeda does it to get the U.S. out of Saudi Arabia, Bush does it for oil. But motive doesn't really matter when your dead, now does it?
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 07:13 PM
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62. Why are you defending Al Qaeda by comparing them to your hated enemy, Bush?
Hitler killed more people too, that doesn't mean Bin Laden isn't as evil as Hitler.

Of course you may claim he was really being manipulated by MIHOP intelligence operatives... as if that would excuse his complicity in ordering the murder of 3,000 civilians on one day.

This is like the so-called anarchists and so-called lefties I run into who
excuse the WTC attacks because they thought it was a "strike at capitalism". I guess mass murder is OK depending how you do it.

Keep digging, though. Bush is irrelevant to the discussion.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:34 PM
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65. I'm defending Al Qaeda?
I'm simply asking who has caused more human suffering? Al Qaeda or Bush?

Why is that such a hard question for some people to answer?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:11 PM
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46. Bush IS an alcoholic liar. I don't much care who said it. nt
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 06:11 PM by Bluebear
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:41 PM
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54. Right on.
Al Qaeda may be saying what I've thought about our President for the past six years, but if you (general you, not anyone specific here) think I'm going to give them props for that, you're out of your mind. :grr: Just because they've acknowledged the fact that Bush is a liar, that DOES NOT make them any more credible or any less murderous. And note to any lurking freepers: just because we happen to agree with Al Qaeda on this one point DOES NOT mean that we're "with them." :thumbsdown: I will not cheer for, applaud, praise, or otherwise encourage a group of murderers and terrorists simply because they make one statement I agree with, and my position on this issue applies to all murderers and terrorists - whether it be Al Qaeda or the Bush administration. :grr:
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 07:17 PM
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64. They're not saying what *I've* thought about Bush.
They're parroting what they've been told by their handlers (whoever those may be -- ISI, perhaps? LIHOPpers who consider Bin Laden a rogue asset? Al Qaeda recruits from Europe?) is the generic liberal line, in order to distract and divide the American populace.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:32 PM
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26. News Flash: Bush responds
From the Jack Rabbit News Service
Dated Tuesday February 13



Bush denies being an alcoholic liar
By Jack Rabbit

Washington --
President (sic) George W. Bush today responded to charges by the second ranking officer of the al Qaida terror network, Ayman al-Zawahiri, that he is "an alcoholic, liar and gambler".

"Perhaps I'll put two dollars down in a World Series pool in October," said Mr. Bush, "but I haven't had a drink in twenty years." Mr. Bush looked angrily at reporters and said, "I am not a alcoholic liar." He then raised both hands in a "V for victory" gesture as if possessed by the ghost of Richard Nixon.

Assembled reporters then kowtowed to Mr. Bush, chanting "We believe you, O master of the globe" three times in unison as armed guards from Blackwater USA stood ready behind television cameras.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:35 PM
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27. LOL!

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:55 PM
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57. what an arrogant a$$hole bush is.
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 06:58 PM by alyce douglas
even al qaeda has * nailed.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:35 PM
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28. OMG- I agree with al Qaeda?
Shit- what is the world coming to?
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 04:40 PM
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38. Unnerving isn't it?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:37 PM
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29. So far, they are ahead on credibility points (eom)
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:57 PM
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58. they (al queda) is more educated and well read than bush.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:39 PM
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31. How many times have we killed "#2 in al queda"?
A year ago we were killing #2 and #3 about every other week.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:13 PM
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48. No, that was Al-Zarqawi, this is Al-Zwahiri
after him is Al-Zwaheehee, Al-Zwahoohaa, and Al-Zwawannawanga.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:50 PM
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34. Personal or Official? nt
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 04:33 PM
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36. Didn't they get the memo?
We make up shit about them, they make up shit about us. That's the way it's supposed to work! But here they go and bring fact into it. Animals.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:40 PM
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43. Next? George Bush has COOTIES.. and he wets the bed
:rofl:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:11 PM
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47. Every time we get an alleged "Al Qaeda" tape my bullshit meter goes haywire
and I have to wonder what this Administration is up to.

...Remember when they were supposedly bent out of shape because of Gay Marriage in Massachusetts? :eyes:

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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 07:15 PM
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63. *nod* I agree...it's awfully convenient when Al Qaeda tapes parrot...
the same allegations of fatal flaws of character as DU and other progressive perspectives. Conflate much?
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:13 PM
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49. Thats the first bit of
honest reporting ABC has done in a while...
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:51 PM
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56. Well we already know * is a alcoholic liar, and regarding
us voting him in twice, the world will never understand why * is there again. They believe we voted him in twice, we have a lot of convincing to do.
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