Let’s read that again, shall we?

[kpete]

Let’s read that again, shall we?

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm


It’s our duty, our responsibility to resist the tyranny of our current government. It’s right there in the Declaration of Independence.

I’d rather die free than live in fear. But I certainly don’t want to die in tyranny. What happened to courage?

Courage is saying that you’ll live by your ideals no matter what the risk. Compromising your principles out of fear is the definition of cowardice.

[shadowknows69]

1. ..............

Don't get me started

[Land Shark]

13. Paragraph 2 of the Decl contains Key Voting rights (right to alter or abolish govt) nt

[Toots]

16. abolish government

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: What a hoot

[paparush]

33. I was just reading "Civil Disobedience" by David Thoreau

“That government is best which governs not at all;” and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. Government is at best but an expedient....

[loudsue]

44. Howdy Land Shark!

:hi: Good to see you my friend!


I'm ready for a revolution! How 'bout you??

[Donnachaidh]

2. K&R

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[guitar man]

3. In every stage

...of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

[guitar man]

4. K&R

:patriot:

[Bitwit1234]

5. Show that to the republican reign of terror...

[truedelphi]

9. They may already looking into it

I have heard that our para military, the SWAT teams and what not, are told wheninside a business or home, to look for anything that establishes that those who have access to the unit (live there, rent or own it) are under the influence of the Founding Fathers.

We are all suspects - any one of who who claims to have read the Declaration Of Independence or The Constitution or who have "Give me Liberty or Give me death" emblazoned on a plaque.

[TheDoorbellRang]

6. Oh, that crazy fringe element back then...

:sarcasm:

K&R

[robinlynne]

7. I feel like we all need to stop what we are doing and march on congress. millions

of us. It is hard to see fruits from what we are doing, although they are there in small great ways.

[gateley]

40. I feel that demonstrations/marches are ineffective, but if MILLIONS were

actually to march...

This isn't to say that I'm not supportive of demonstrations and marches, just that they tend to blow them off. Millions -- that would be hard to do that.

[Kurovski]

8. K&R. (nt)

[Hydra]

10. That's soooo pre-9/11!

:sarcasm:

[bryant69]

11. Yes you are right - I would rather die than compromise my commitment to making John Edwards Pres.

Thanks for posting this.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[AmBlue]

19. You GO!!!

And thank you for your commitment!

Here's to President JOHN EDWARDS!! :toast:

[Raejeanowl]

12. It's Never Very Far From My Thoughts

You aren't the first to draw analogies about the madness of King George and his namesake. My question is, who will be the first to actually step forward? And who will follow? It's fine to talk boldly about an overthrow of the current government. Let me see thousands, tens of thousands serving a physical eviction notice on 1600 Pennsylvania, or the Capitol. A small unit of citizens, however sincerely aggrieved, against the existing guard isn't courage; it's suicide.

I am with you all the way in sympathy and frustration regarding the slow crawl of justice and the non-response of Congress. Every day I think, this development will surely turn the tide. But it hasn't, and I haven't yet seen the answer that will make it all coalesce.

[druidity33]

17. sadly, the answer

that i think will make it all coalesce is bound to be cataclysmic in nature. Preparation will be key for those left...

in another thread earlier someone mentioned the Mayan calendar and the December 2012 date. Know anything about that?

:(

[gateley]

42. Briefly, the Mayan Calendar ends in 2012. It is generally believed to indicate an end

of a way of life -- end of life as we know it. Not necessarily heralding in a new time of extinction or horror, just of a change. Google it -- you'll find LOTS of info.

It's interesting to contemplate regardless if our interpretations are accurate or if it really means anything at all.

[druidity33]

47. yes, i'm aware.

i was asking the other poster if they knew. I've read a lot about the calendar and the events it has already predicted "accurately". The glyphs themselves can only be "interpreted", not actually read... because there was no one left to know precisely what they meant. Fascinating stuff really. I tend to think more Positively and believe that the "end"(or "the end of what we know") means only Great Change.

peace

[gateley]

49. And I'm with you -- I can hardly wait. Don't know if you heard Whitley

Streiber on Coast to Coast last night, but it was yet another fascinating discussion.

I'm planning on having a gathering of like-minded friends. I'm ready for the Great Change.

[gateley]

50. PS -- Had I paid attention to your screen name, I would have realized you were

probably familiar with it. :7

[Vilis Veritas]

36. You are correct.

The time for that kind of action passed over a century ago...when corporations were given person hood.

Relying on the Fourteenth Amendment, added to the Constitution in 1868 to protect the rights of freed slaves, the Court ruled that a private corporation is a natural person under the U.S. Constitution, and consequently has the same rights and protection extended to persons by the Bill of Rights, including the right to free speech.

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Corporations/Rise.asp

No Fear.

[gateley]

41. You presented my exact view and feelings far more eloquently and clearly than

I ever could. In TOTAL agreement with you.

Thanks!

[Lex]

14. " . . . it is their DUTY to throw off such Government . . . "

nt

[info being]

15. What do you suggest we do?

[Seabiscuit]

21. My suggestion: put 100 million angry feet on the ground around the White House and Congress.

Imagine 50 million people screaming around the White House: "GET OUT OF OUR HOUSE, YOU TREASONOUS BASTARDS!" 50 million people could no doubt storm the White House and drag them all out kicking and screaming. And since Congress won't do its job, they deserve the same treatment.

A few hundred thousand still gets completely ignored or at least dismissed in the MSM.

[Vilis Veritas]

37. Never happen.

The logistics of such an upheaval would alert the corporations that control everything in this country and it would be stopped before it ever began.

I doubt again that there will ever be a mass march allowed in Washington, unless of course it is 'SANCTIONED' by the Corpor-Fascist State as propoganda worthy of coverage.

JMO

No Fear.

[gateley]

43. August 8, 1925 in History KU KLUX KLAN March in WA D.C. 200,000!

August 8, 1925 in History

Event:

1st national march of Ku Klux Klan (200,000) in Washington, D.C.



I'm trying to find video. I saw this on a History of Ku Klux Klan show on the History Channel or Discoveyr Channel.

They had film of THOUSANDS of white-robed Klansmen marching down the street -- like Hitler's troops in scope.

[Vilis Veritas]

53. 1925? 200,000?

...what about the million man march? We can get closer than 1925 and 200k, but what did it do? Nothing, nada, zippo...15 year old black girl abused by a cop...freepers talking about how she should have been bitch slapped and put down like a dog...NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

I just have a hard time seeing that kind of march...We got a community here at DU that knows IMPEACHMENT is the only way to save the country and is anyone marching? Oh yea, a few thousand...out of 290,000,000...and what is that few thousand doing?

Laying on the beach, spelling out IMPEACH. While I applaud the effort, I just think it is foolish to think it will make a difference.

You might be awake, but 280 million sleepers will put you down if you make a move...I say this with all due respect to all the great DU activist...

Don't ask me what I think of you,
I might not give the answer you want me to...

[Seabiscuit]

51. How are "the corporations" going to stop 50 million people. An H-bomb???

Short of that, they'd be powerless. You think a few hundred or even a few thousand or even half a million cops/army grunts/Blackwater mercenaries are going to be able to stop 50 MILLION ANGRY PEOPLE??? Even at half a million, the grunts wearing the uniforms would be outnumbered 100 to 1.

Who cares if it's "allowed"???

[Vilis Veritas]

52. You do not need bombs to keep 50 million people from

uniting.

Look around you man, wake up. DU can't even get 50,000 people united. I refuse to believe in pipe dreams and foolish what if scenarios...50 million people united in this country for the soul purpose of marching on Washington is - at this point in time - a fantasy.

The country is so brain-washed and hypnotized that it would take 30 years of serious therapy to heal SOME of the damage.

No Fear.

[Seabiscuit]

55. You're changing the subject.

We both know it's not going to happen. We can't even get one million to march on Washington.

But if it did, there's no way the government could stop it. That's where we disagree.

[Vilis Veritas]

56. No disagreement. I see your point now.

Sorry...

An army of angry citizens numbering 50 million would be unstoppable. I apologize, I have difficulty with the hypothetical about this subject.

I understand what you are saying now...

No Fear.

[Vilis Veritas]

57. Ok back on point then...

What I should have said, since we are dealing in a hypothetical situation is that the logistics for moving 50 million souls to Washington would put the g-w-mint on notice. The coordination would have to be done in such a way as to go relatively unnoticed, paper cards passed amongst friends, et-cetera.

It is an interesting exercise... My apologies in the other post remain. I see your point.

[louis-t]

46. I still say the more powerful message would be...

a million people chanting "NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO" at the White House.

[Vilis Veritas]

54. This, you might be able to do...

I like the way you think...

No Fear...

[earth mom]

18. Thank you. nt

[Lex]

20. kickin'

up

[Maraya1969]

22. Here's the contact information in case anyone wants to send this information

to the Speaker of the House and any others that might need to read it again. I just sent Ms. Pelosi the part that you emphasized.

http://www.speaker.gov/contact/

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

27. You mean like this?

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[Maraya1969]

48. If you go to the link I posted you have to fill out a form but it gets to her or her people

[defendandprotect]

23. Notice the King/Queen still rules in the ole homeland . . . and they didn't say how to "throw off"

except we have always considered it to be non-violent methods ...
kinda silly when your voting machines are corrupt -- and government is taken over by organized criminals !!!

[trusty elf]

24. bush league chimpion's response:

[Patriot Abroad]

25. Time for a constitutional convention

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution

We need to reaffirm the Constitution as the law of the land, and restore the position of the President as the protector of that document . . .

[rateyes]

26. Political Courage:

Wouldn't that require Senator Leahy to withhold confirmation hearings for Mukasey until he receives all of the subpoenaed material, and either has Rove and Miers under oath in a public hearing or hold them in contempt?

:kick: and R

[bigtree]

28. Of course, that doesn't necessarily proscribe impeachment

Voting could also be interpreted as 'throwing off such Government, and providing new Guards for their future security.' So could the processes of investigation going on in committee.

But, you go on and restrict your interpretation of 'courage' to the ONE action you advocate.

[sce56]

29. I regret that I have but one vote for this thread! Error: You've already recommended that thread.

[dbonds]

30. "Its only a piece of paper" - Bush hand puppet #2

[emald]

31. we have become a cowardly nation

taking on the likeness of the dear leader. Cowards howl and screech of fear all the while looking to take freedom away from those who aren't scared. Sorry, I don't fear AQ, I worry about gwbushit. He is the terrorist.
It is indeed our duty, and right thank you, to throw off this despotism we now are under.

RISE UP AMERICA

[Andy Canuck]

32. What legal power does the

Declaration have, if any? It is an inspiration.

[GeorgeGist]

34. Tell it to an aboriginal.

There are not many survivors of the New World holocaust, so it will be a difficult challenge to find one.

[Vilis Veritas]

35. I think the people were supposed to change the g'w'mint

every 20 years...according to Jefferson

To Col. William S. Smith.-- "Wonderful is the effect of impudent and persevering lying. The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, and what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves! Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of rebellion so honorably conducted? I say nothing of its motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all and always well-informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had thirteen States independent for eleven years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each State. What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon, and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." (Nov. 13, 1787. MR 6:372)

We lost our opportunity about 150 years ago when Corporations were given personhood, now all we have is a piece of paper...:shrug:

No Fear.

[ooglymoogly]

38. If only kr

[RoccoR5955]

39. Bush's reply to that would be...

The world is different since 9/11... WMD Saddam and bin Laden. 9/11, 9/11, 9/11. I'm the decider, and I'll decide. WMD, bin Laden, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11. We gotta beat them there, or they'll beat us here. 9/11, 9/11, Saddam and bin Laden, WMD. Oceans can't separate us. 9/11, 9/11, 9/11.

and so it goes.....

[Raejeanowl]

45. Terrorists

I see anyone challenging the Bush administration dealt with as a "terrorist." So they can be gunned down with or without declaration of martial law, imprisoned, completely disenfranchised.