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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:23 PM
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{Murdered} GI to her family: Ask many questions if I die
Here's a story about a NG specialist who died from a "non-combat" gunshot to the head three miles inside the heavily protected Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan.

GI to her family: Ask many questions if I die; ‘I made some enemies,’ Durkin said


Durkin


By DIANA SCHOBERG and SUE SCHEIBLE
The Patriot Ledger

QUINCY - Ciara Durkin was home on leave last month and expressed a concern to her family in Quincy: If something happens to me in Afghanistan, don’t let it go without an investigation.

Durkin, 30, a specialist with a Massachusetts National Guard finance battalion, was found dead last week near a church at the Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan. She had been shot once in the head, the Army says.

Fiona Canavan, Durkin’s older sister, said today that when her sister was home three weeks ago, she told family members that she had come across some things that concerned her and had raised objections to others at the base.

‘‘She was in the finance unit and she said, ‘I discovered some things I don’t like and I made some enemies because of it.’ Then she said, in her light-hearted way, ‘If anything happens to me, you guys make sure it gets investigated,’’’ Canavan said. ‘‘But at the time we thought it was said more as a joke.’’

More at http://patriotledger.com/articles/2007/10/03/news/news01.txt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:25 PM
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1. NPR did a long story this morning on the bunches of US military women...
... who've been sexually assaulted, and a number of them killed after complaining about it.

sheesh.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:17 PM
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19. It totally makes me want to explode to know
that not only is our military covering up this shit, they're letting it continue! :grr:

I would like to have faith that people are all basically humane, but this stuff convinces me that a whole lot of people will enable and allow absolute evil just because it's their job, or because it's convenient.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:37 PM
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21. and I can't help but wonder
how history will treat the rest of us... will we be looked upon as the American people who stood by and did nothing?
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:54 AM
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34. No we will be looked upon as the country that had an
Army of mercenaries. This is one of the results of an all "volunteer" Army, essentially mercenaries.

She probably discovered some financial scheme to steal or defraud by higher ups and this is a convenient way to dispose of "problems" in a war zone.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:58 PM
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79. i disagree
we have an all voulenteer army here in France and you can hardly say we are mercenaries. I live in a military town and come into regular contact with soldiers, I even teach english to some of them, they seem very professional and the ones I have talked to take their profession seriously, see war as something to be avoided because it represents a breakdown of society and speak of the geneva convention as a good thing.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:28 PM
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88. Hmmmm I didn't say anything about the FRENCH ARMY!
You have the French Foreign Legion for your mercenaries, so your regular troops can act as a defensive army and protect YOUR country.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:28 AM
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92. so true
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:52 PM
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89. Reggie the dog, you sound confused...
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 06:55 PM by dickbearton
You have to teach American soldiers English. What kind of
soldiers are these, the great volunteer army. You say you
teach English and yet you spell volunteer as voulenteer. Looks
as if you need a lesson yourself. As for American soldiers in
France, WTF are you even doing there, bloating the U.S.
military budget? 
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:32 AM
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93. I am not a soldier
I am just an American expat in France. I teach english to French soldiers from time to time (sometimes at a university where I give english lessons, sometimes in night classes through the chambre de commerce. I made a comment to someone who said that there were problems in the US army because it is an all voulenteer army. I got the spelling crossed between the english and the french "volontiers". I just make the argument that many countries have all voulenteer armies without having such blatant torture etc. as we have seen coming out of Iraq.
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cartach Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:08 AM
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37. Like the Germans
prior to and during WW2.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:56 AM
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38. Yep. Like the "good Germans." the ones the American soldiers forced to go
through the concentration camps after the camps were liberated.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:59 AM
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45. The phrase "Good Americans" will replace another well-known phrase. (NT)
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:19 AM
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53. The "Good American"
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:44 PM
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68. Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!
Bingo! Nail on the head! Etc.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:21 AM
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54. thanks, i will try to find the story
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:27 PM
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2. Thank you....
for this post. I do not wear a tinfoil hat and I believe this woman was murderd.

recommended
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:28 PM
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3. Apparently it wasn't a joke...
This kind of crap needs a really bright light shined on it.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:29 PM
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4. I wonder if she found out what happened to those pallets of US dollars.





The hundreds of millions of dollars that vanished almost as soon as the plane hit the ground.




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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:18 PM
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14. Ugh try 6 billion.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:22 PM
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16. *A billion here, a billion there. Sooner or later you're talking about REAL money*
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:24 PM
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17. You rich? Or just wanna be?
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 07:24 PM by lonestarnot
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:27 PM
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87. We all know George Bush is a traitor and a war criminal...
We all know huge amounts of money is stolen and we all know
the Republican criminals will do anything to cover it up. When
will Americans stand up and end this charade? I can only hope
they do, before it is to late. Educate everyone you come in
contact with, because the bought out MSM will not do it.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:29 PM
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5. Oh boy
Corruption is one mean animal to deal with.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:32 PM
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6. A lot of people are getting rich off the war in Afghanistan just
like in Iraq. If you are making millions you can pay someone a few thousand dollars to bump off anyone who is likely to expose what you are doing.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:59 AM
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33. It's always about the money.
Recommended and kicked.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:00 PM
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81. at a certain point
you just have to tell the folks buying a hit on you that you will shut up forever for half of what they will pay for the hit. Sometimes I think this has happened to lots of politicians.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:34 PM
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7. But...but...we'll disrespect her family if we ask questions...
At least, that's what we're always told...
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:46 PM
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8. I hope Durkin's family contacts the family of Pat Tillman
The is comfort, strength, and safety in numbers.

















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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:47 PM
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9. This is how fascism works. Even people in uniform are afraid of
the others with guns. Why wouldn't we be afraid of Blackwater? Why wouldn't we be afraid if everything we do or say might be under surveillance?
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:53 PM
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12. Part of the....
"Strategy of Tention" IMHO. :hi:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:49 PM
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10. This thread needs to be filed in research with other items
of criminality, theft, murder, etc. What a horrible situation.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:50 PM
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11. K&R! Thanks for posting this! n/t
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:02 PM
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13. I hope she left papers or documents behind for her family to find...
...that might help to shed some light on this bizarre mystery.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. She left numbers in her finance unit. But someone might scrub them now before they
could be discovered since this has been posted here.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. Whoever knew to kill her knew to scrub them.
We'll be lucky if any evidence remains.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:34 PM
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20. Another Loyal American murdered by Loyal Bushies
I wish for justice for her family and that her Loyal Bushie murderer pays for his crime.

However, we all know how often Loyal Bushies pay for their murders...I'm still waiting for the first one...
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:04 AM
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25. Greed, money and male dominated militarism killing
off our best... the whole debacle is utterly pathetic. :mad:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 08:58 AM
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40. That, too. But those things have always been with us humans.
Which is bad enough, don't get me wrong, but only when such impulses (ingrained in the human psyche for a vast majority of people, comfort and acquisition being primate-root-desires) are mated to Unquestioning Obedience, Conscience Eradication, and Authoritarianism (see my sigline for the long trek into the age-old mechanism of the archetype) is when these State-Sponsored or State-Approved Killings kick into overdrive.

We are just edging closer to that particular abyss, though I suspect, for PR reasons, those kinds of killing will always be performed much more sproadically and infrequently as Extreme Authoritarians like the Soviets and the Nazis did.

Can't let people form those negative associations, you see.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 09:47 PM
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22. In 2004 eight Billion disappeared and nothing has been reported since, defense/war big $$$ sick
Americans backing Bush's war biz...
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:00 AM
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23. One thing that needs to be spread is:
if you ever think you know anything someone wishes you didn't, you need to copy any evidence you've got, write it down together with who you think wishes you didn't know it and why, and put copies in at least 2 places: (1) in a safe deposit box; and (2) with a lawyer, with instructions to open the envelope if anything happens to you. Then TELL whoever you think wishes you didn't know it that you've made arrangements for the info to be released if anything happens to you.

I just made that up so maybe there's a better plan, but this might have been better than whatever she did instead.
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:03 AM
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24. Wow. How do the repukes even justify their bullshit war?????
Have we had ENOUGH yet????????????
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:00 AM
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27. Apparently not yet. Unless and until large numbers of us feel it here
we really couldn't care less. The war is not real to enough of us yet, and that's just how it's been played.
:kick:


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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:54 AM
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26. K&R. (nt)
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:25 AM
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28. And yet..
Democrats continue to vote to fund this illegal and unethical war.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #28
73. at this point it's obvious blackmail,corruption or threats-pick one
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:21 PM
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77. agreed. n/t
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:34 AM
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29. Surreal, what has the US come to?
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:42 AM
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30. Why aren't conservatives who whine and complain
they don't want welfare queens soaking up their hard earned money up in arms about the billions lost in this looting spree?
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:47 AM
Response to Reply #30
36. Great point
because their Bushjesus can do no wrong.
And when He throws billions around, that's fine for (most of) them.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:07 PM
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60. I really truly believe this comment of yours!
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 12:08 PM by themartyred
They are hypnotized into backing and believing whatever their (and forgive me LORD) "Bushjesus" tells them!

SIXTY NINE EFFING PERCENT OF REPUBLICANS SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT'S WORK AS GOOD OR EXCELLENT!

They treat him like a prophet, surely.



Dumbfounding. Such a chaotic, horribly mangled, law breaking, vessel of poop they have ran from DC, and somehow, some 30+ million who voted for him last time support him - if you believe in polls. lol....

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:50 AM
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31. i hope she gave her sister a BETTER CLUE!
so she has more to go on then just saying "i want an investigation"

if she didn't provide more information to her sister or family then WHY NOT?
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 08:11 AM
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39. I hope that there is a little package that winds up on Olbermans desk.
She couldn't send what she found to any one in the government.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:57 AM
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32. Where O where is John Wayne when we need him? Or Morgan Freeman?
Somehow, they would know how to deal with this shit...
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:31 AM
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57. You're joking, right?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #57
62. Facetiousness allows for latitude....lol
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #62
65. I guess it was obvious,
but sometimes I can't tell anymore.

:hi:



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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #65
76. Love that cufflink...LOL
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #32
66. Morgan Freeman lives in his small hometown in MS and owns a
fabulous restaurant there.........FYI. He's one of my favorite actors. Wish HE could be President......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Freeman
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:00 PM
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80. I'll take Nancy Pelosi
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:23 AM
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35. Looks like she
stumbled upon some corrupt financial dealings. Imagine that huh.
I’ve often wondered what happened to those piles of cash that the solders
found stashed in Sadams hideous in Iraq.

With the typical Bush finical system in place I’d be willing to bet this
is a case of murder simply to cover up corruption and the sad thing is it will
probably work.:nuke:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #35
42. I know for certain that you are correct.
Because I fear for a loved one- I will say no more.
BHN
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:48 AM
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44. I’m sorry your in that position
Unfortunately power and especially the power they weld over our loved ones is a tried and true practice these last few years.

They've learned from some of the best most successful criminal enterprises this nation has ever seen.
The Bush crime family.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:32 AM
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41. I wonder if Olberman is going to report on this
He's probably the only one who would make a big deal in MSM
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:43 AM
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43. Such a waste

She has such a kind face.

I would bet she died because of the culture of evil greed we now live with.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 10:10 AM
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46. She worked in the FINANCE UNIT! Calling Henry Waxman!!!!!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 10:28 AM
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47. Holy crap, here was someone who might have had information
...about the missing billions of dollars and suddenly she gets a bullet shot to the head! :wtf:
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paritom Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 10:30 AM
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48. Kick
&R
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 10:37 AM
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49. Kick.n/t
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:01 AM
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50. It sounds like an execution style killing....
No attempt to make it look like an accident or a result of enemy fire.

Perhaps it was meant to also serve as a warning to anyone else on the base who was aware of the information she had.

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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:05 AM
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51. Horrifying!!!!
:scared:
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:11 AM
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52. well sounds like this could become a gigantic story
of epic proportions, let's see where it goes

Both Hartman and Ed Shultz have been hitting these stories hard. I hope Olberman takes it up.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:01 PM
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59. That's the next place it needs to go if it's to get ANY attention
from the corporate-whore media.

Olbermann's show is our most effective means of breaking through the filter and getting real news out to the public.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:27 AM
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55. Did they steal her computer? n/t
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:29 AM
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56. I wonder how much Blackwater got paid for that day's assignment. n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:33 AM
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58. Finding out what she learned would certainly help. She was very, very brave.
She was the one who served her country, not the ones who killed her.

Need to remember her name: Ciara Durkin.

Hope they will investigate her murder until they determine how it happened, SOMETIME. Don't hold your breath for this administration to do the right thing, of course. That's not going to happen.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:07 PM
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61. I was talking to a friend of mine had has a friend that served in Iraq
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 12:09 PM by Maestro
He told that the military friend of his explained that this war is nothing but a money making scheme now with many, many fat cats getting richer at the expense of the Iraqis and our soldiers. He stated that at one time he loved serving his country but now sees it as a detriment. He is scarred for life because of what is done in the name of money. Durkin probably came upon some scheme that got generals, diplomatic friends of Darth and * plus corp ceos richer. Now she has been "fixed." It's disgusting.

I'm curious. Who is repsonsible for the autopsy, the military? Can the family ask for a third party to perform the autopsy? I'd like to know what type of bullet killed her and if it was military issued ammo.
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:58 PM
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67. That is exactly what was said on Olbermann the other night in reference to Blackwater...
and they said...the worse it gets over there, the more money they make.
And the more places around the world where there is conflict..the more money they will make.
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:05 PM
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83. Apparently the family has asked for an independent autopsy...
(from the story)

Canavan said that the offices of Sen. John Kerry and Edward Kennedy have been tremendously supportive in the ongoing investigation. U.S. Rep. William Delahunt has also been pressing the Pentagon for answers.

Other family members are coming in for Durkin’s funeral on Saturday at St. John the Baptist Catholic Church in Quincy, she said.

Kerry sent a letter to Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on Tuesday. It contained a list of questions he said were raised by Durkin’s family:

—Why had the family not gotten a response to its request for an independent autopsy?

—Why did the family not receive the results of the Army’s autopsy when it was told it would?

—Why had the Army not made Durkin’s will and other paperwork available to the family so they could plan her funeral?

Asked in a telephone interview about what the seriousness of the questions might imply, Kerry said there were ‘‘no implications.’’

‘‘There’s simply a request for a family at a moment of great loss and great anxiety to have everything possible happen to put their minds at ease,’’ he said. ‘‘There have been some unfortunate situations, as we’ve seen historically in the past few years, of false information being given, of people not sufficiently having their questions answered.’’

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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 08:50 PM
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90. Thanks
I couldn't read the story at work...
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everydayis911 Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:16 PM
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63. It wouldn't surprise me
If Blackwater is doing all the killing in the middle east. Somebody has to keep this war going. They have the weapons the know how and the support for the village idiot Bush.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:17 PM
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64. Any body citizen or soldier who entrusts his/her life to this
government and has a different opinion from it, is living in a suicidal la la land.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:52 PM
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69. The Qaeda The Qaeda The Qaeda! Support our troops! We are a christian nation
Stop giving aid and comfort to our enemies.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:08 PM
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70. OMG. This is incredible.
k&r
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:16 PM
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71. kick - this is far more important than whining about Hillary.
Please, people. Focus.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:18 PM
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72. killed by her own perhaps, another Pat Tillman thing.
disgusting.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:06 PM
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74. How are we expected to "support the troops" when...

there is so much corruption and some of the higher-ups are turning against their own? This is one troop who really deserves our support.

What is it that Pat Tillman and Ciara Durken learned about Afghanistan that had to be squelched? Why is Sibel Edmonds gagged? Could it have something to do with the incredibly profitable poppy (heroin) crop? Why does Waxman feel that there is nothing that deserves to be investigated when there are agents willing to come forward with evidence? Something really stinks about all this. How many in Congress are profitting from this multi-billion dollar business?
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:08 PM
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75. Army recruiting
even as reported by CNN shows the dangerous degradation of the Armed Services. Not only is lawless merc Blackwater growing into a massive private army but the people's army is swelling with illiterates, non citizens, and criminals whose convictions for heaven knows what are suspended for "volunteering" to take a $20,000 bonus instead. 15,000 pre-cons.

Nazi Germany did not destroy its army to rebuild it like apparently our neo-fascists think necessary. An individual death like this cries out for Congressional concern, but if the larger issues cannot muster even the necessary re-balancing of powers the victims will keep multiplying. Whatever the solution to this case the odds are overwhelming high that she is yet another purposeful victim of RW Bush dynasty, Crazy Dick, corporate crime. All this from surrendering the legitimacy of our government to overtly fraudulent theft.
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spirit of wine Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:40 PM
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78. At this point the mystery is gone but the anger remains
More insecurity seems to be coming from within our own defense structure like hired contractors and lowered standards for recruits for the military. This administration has shown that cronyism and corruption can also play a role in their government but to the detriment of our safety. The death of this soldier seems like she was murdered for having found out information that could have lead others to their inevitable conclusion. I am sorry for her and family and loved ones, her intellect was her demise.

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:05 PM
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82. Time for tinfoil.
:tinfoilhat:
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Maq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:16 PM
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84. Major Gloria D Davis 6 Dec 2006 date of SUSPICIOUS death

Major Gloria D Davis Date of Death 6 December 2006

Maqs' opinion: This Major in the finance end of the War is said to have comitted Suicide. VERY SUSPICIOUS to me She has an 18 year career I say she was murdered because of what she knew. Just like Ciara Durkin

It has been reported in The New York Times (US says company bribed officers for work in Iraq--31 Aug 07) that Gloria had admitted to an Army investigator that she had accepted at least $225,000 in bribes from Lee Dynamics. The following day she committed suicide. The US has begun proceedings to seize her assets, a move her heirs are contesting.



SOURCE: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D06E7DC1339F937A1575AC0A9619C8B63

An Officer's Suicide

Although a Justice Department official said it was too early to know if the suspects in the corruption investigation operated independently or in a network, public records indicate that several served overlapping tours. At least two officers who worked at Camp Arifjan when Major Cockerham was there committed suicide after learning they would face bribery charges. One, Maj. Gloria D. Davis of Missouri, shot herself in December 2006, a day after admitting she took at least $225,000 in bribes, government officials said.
NOTE: The news article does not mention the name of who the second person who is said to have committed suicide.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:20 PM
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85. GRR
:grr:
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DrBlix Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:26 PM
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86. Then there wae Lt. Col. Westhusing
Reportedly committed suicide......General David Petraeus wae his commanding officer.
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Officer's 2005 Suicide A Painful Reminder of Corruption in Iraq
By Spencer Ackerman - August 28, 2007, 4:27PM
With the Pentagon's inspector general set to arrive in Iraq in a few weeks to personally investigate allegations of corruption in, among other places, the training of Iraqi security forces, it's worth remembering that suspicions of wrongdoing in the command led one officer to take his own life out of apparent shame. In a suicide note left on his bed in Baghdad, Lt. Colonel Ted Westhusing wrote, "I didn't volunteer to support corrupt, money grubbing contractors, nor work for commanders only interested in themselves." Westhusing, 44, killed himself on June 5, 2005.
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Much about Westhusing's case remains a mystery. According to a definitive Los Angeles Times exploration of his death published in November 2005, the committed Christian and West Point graduate began working for the training command, known as MNTSC-I, in January of 2005. General David Petraeus, who now leads U.S. forces in Iraq, commanded MNTSC-I in 2004 and 2005.
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Westhusing's primary responsibility was to oversee a private company, USIS, which held a $79 million contract to train Iraqi special forces, and Petraeus told him he had exceeded "lofty expectations."
snip
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The provenance of the letter is unknown, and it alleged even more serious charges -- including contractor murder of Iraqi civilians. Westhusing initially wrote to a commander, Major General Joseph Fil, that USIS was "complying" with the terms of its contract, and that the "evidence suggests the other allegations are not true as well" barely a week before his death.
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Investigators came to much the same conclusion, though questions about missing weapons were recently corroborated by a Government Accountability Office report disclosing that MNSTC-I lost nearly 200,000 rifles and pistols during 2004 and 2005.
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http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004022.php
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:12 PM
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91. I wish she would have been more specific about what she uncovered and
I wish she had told her family. SOMETHING, SOMEONE needs to bring these thugs down.:(

I suppose her death is being called a suicide? Even if it is investigated, if she knew something that was never to be exposed, that investigation is for nothing more than show.
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