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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:46 PM
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Draft Gore Movement Picks Up Steam
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-katovsky/draft-gore-movement-picks_b_66695.html

Draft Gore Movement Picks Up Steam
Posted October 1, 2007 | 06:46 PM (EST)

All across America, Al Gore supporters nervously count down the days to October 12 -- that's the day when the Nobel Peace Prize is announced. Many expect the former Vice President to win the award, and if he does it will cap a marvelous year of accomplishments -- Oscar, Emmy, Live Earth, bestseller. It will also immediately fuel speculation that Gore will jump into the 2008 presidential race.

- snip -

Around that time, the New York Times quoted Gore as saying, "Having spent 30 years as part of the political dialogue, I don't know why a 600-day campaign is taken as a given, and why people who aren't in it 600 days out for the convenience of whatever brokers want to close the door and narrow the field and say, 'This is it, now let's place your bets.' If they want to do that, fine. I don't have to play that game."

True to his word, Gore hasn't played that game. Could the Nobel become the catalyst for Citizen Gore to tell America, "I'm in!" Furthermore, will he be able to raise sufficient funds, build a campaign staff with field offices in key primary states, and re-introduce himself to Democratic voters as their next president?

- snip -

I know of many Democrats who still get angry whenever the subject of the 2000 presidential election is brought up in conversation. Like them, I believe that the election was stolen, and the wrong man got the job. Some blame for Gore's defeat can be attributed to those vexing butterfly ballots which affected voting in southern Florida. A fair electoral system would have mandated a complete statewide recount, something the Supreme Court wrongly dismissed. And so, all that has happened to our nation since then is straight out of chaos theory: the slight turbulence created by a butterfly flapping its wings can set into motion atmospheric disturbance that results in a hurricane on the other side of the planet. Instead of our country being led by Gore who won the popular vote, we've suffered through eight dispiriting years of Bush/Cheney and a catastrophic war in Iraq.

There are a number of Net activists and grassroots organizations also banking on Gore's rendezvous with destiny. They have kept the faith. They are waiting for Gore. But they have also been busy building an independent infrastructure of volunteers as well as conducting an online petition drive urging Gore to run. The most successful web group is DraftGore.com, which was founded by Monica Friedlander, of Oakland, California, four years ago and is its current chairperson.

Last July, Eva Ritchey, of western North Carolina, who is a member of DraftGore.com's five-person executive committee, hand-delivered 100,000 names and addresses on a computer disk to the Gore office in Nashville. Her visit made national news. Now, over the next several weeks, DraftGore.com will pump up the volume with email newsletters, radio advertising, and help create a national network of volunteers. Its main objectives are threefold: to get the word out, to demonstrate that there continues to be a strong, viable nationwide interest in a Gore candidacy, and to be prepared for instant mobilization of campaign support if he does enter the race.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:47 PM
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1. rec 1
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:49 PM
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2. "Dear the Gods" that you may pray to...I hope it is so!!! eom K&R
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:49 PM
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3. K&R
Run Al Run!! :)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:50 PM
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4. I must confess that I'm on that list.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:51 PM
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5. Me too!
:)
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:02 PM
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6. Thanks for the update.
On The Situation Room, Wolf Blitzer had RCohen, former Sec Defense,
Clinton Adm as guest. He was discussing the fact that there are
a lot people who are not satisfied with the top tier Candidates
in either party. He mentioned Sam Nunn, former Dem Senator from
Georgia, and of course Bloomberg. You could tell from his demeanor
and manner of speeking, he was dead serious. This was no "happy talk"
filler. He emphasised serious Democratic unease with things as they are.

This has been the strangest pre-election in a long time. You have
the Conservative Christians up in arms and Democrats uneasy and
the gaggle of geese go honking on.

I have to say Gore was prescient and in all those major speeches
he has been proven correct. He said what had to be said when it
was not "cool" to do so. His book is spot on.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:05 PM
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7. K*R Steamin' for Gore:)
With pleasure. He's actually qualified:

1) He's got the credentials on the BIGGEST issue - climate change. None of the other candidates even mention it.
2) He's got the vision on the dismembering of the Constitution and he's walked the walk.
3) He was right on Iraq before it was "cool" to be right.

The other three leading candidates now have 2013 in mind, despite the expert comments by Richardson who said we could be out in months.

GORE 2008!

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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:05 PM
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8. I can't tell you how many comments I get when I'm wearing one of my Goreganic
shirts. 99% of the time people either ask where I got my shirt and tell me that they really wish that Al would run.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:08 PM
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9. "Gore's rendezvous with destiny"
"Instead of our country being led by Gore who won the popular vote, we've suffered through eight dispiriting years of Bush/Cheney and a catastrophic war in Iraq."


Thanks for the post ~ a Gore presidency sure does seem like the happy ending to this nightmare!
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:10 PM
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10. Run Al Run!!
We need you NOW!!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:14 PM
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11. Kick!
n/t
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:15 PM
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12. November 2, 2007 is a far more impartant date
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MsRedacted Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:02 PM
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40. Yeah isn't that the date NH closes it's ballot.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:26 PM
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45. That's the day! One month to go!
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:16 PM
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13. For The Story Of How Al Got Sandbagged In 2000
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:17 PM
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14. oooohhh...That is an interesting quote. That thing about the '600 days'...
Goddamit.


I am doing it. Getting my hopes up.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:20 PM
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15. The more people I tell the more say
they will vote for him if he runs. I understand its a big decision for him to make especially since he would have to run against Hillary but his time is now and there is a great revolution of people all over the world not just here in the states that will follow him.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:25 PM
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16. Not to rain on anyone's parade, but what if he really is not interested?
I personally think his entrance would make things interesting, but what if he truly isn't interested?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:31 PM
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17. If he was truly not interested
he would have loudly and clearly said he wasn't.

So far, he hasn't.

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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:50 PM
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19. And if he truly was interested he would loudly and clearly say he was.
So far, he hasn't.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 10:48 PM
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24. You know this how?
Have you read his book Assualt on Reason? If not, then I suggest you do. If you have, then re-read it, because you din't understand it.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:12 PM
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43. One hole in that reasoning
A hole you could drive a Boeing 747 through.

For the 2004 election, he did say as much. His silence now, in the exact same situation, is very deeply telling.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:33 PM
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54. Yep. That's key. n/t
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:45 AM
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32. And you know this how? I would suggest you read his book. n/t
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:48 PM
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37. I don't need to re-read his book
I already have. I may have his meaning wrong, but we'll see.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:01 PM
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70. When is the last day to file to run for President? /nt
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:09 PM
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71. It is different in all states
New Hampshire is November 2

Illinois is November 7

Don't know about the others.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:09 PM
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73. California
is December 4.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:21 PM
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74. Thank you!
Do you know where I can find the date for all 50 states?
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:58 PM
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76. Michigan - Oct. 23rd. n/t
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:41 PM
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81. Appreciate that!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:54 PM
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82. If Gore runs he has my vote, I just hope he runs /nt
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 11:28 PM
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29. Then I'll back someone else
But for now I'm still hoping. Thanks for your concern. :)
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:32 PM
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18. RUN AL, RUN! Gore 2008
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:55 PM
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20. I'll give up on Gore when he endorses someone else. nt
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 10:16 PM
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21. Some gold nuggets of hope
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 10:33 PM by utopiansecretagent
with emphasis (mine) added:

Like he told Larry King, "I am not thinking about being a candidate. I have no plans to be a candidate. But, yes, it's true, I have not made a so-called Sherman statement and ruled it out for all time.





...the New York Times quoted Gore as saying, "Having spent 30 years as part of the political dialogue, I don't know why a 600-day campaign is taken as a given, and why people who aren't in it 600 days out for the convenience of whatever brokers want to close the door and narrow the field and say, 'This is it, now let's place your bets.' If they want to do that, fine. I don't have to play that game.



Now why wouldn't/doesn't Gore just give a 'so-called Sherman statement' and end speculation and the draft movement's efforts/energy?

WHY HASN'T HE DONE THIS?

I can find no good answer if he has indeed decided in his mind not to run.

And what's more, in the second statement, he alludes (almost smugly, if I might add - emphasis mine, again):

'If they want to do that, fine. I don't have to play that game.'

When I read this, my first thoughts were "why would he even feel the need to make this first-person comment (regarding his relation to the topic) - as opposed to just commenting generically on the nature of this years early campaigning?

I think there's something up his sleeve...

Pins and fucking needles for me this month...

PLEASE, AL...

Rec'd

I'm bookmarking so I can kick this thread all month.
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kma3346 Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 10:39 PM
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22. Please run, Al!!!
He's the one who should have been president in 2000 and should be serving his second term now. He's the one who got cheated out of his rightful place in history. He's the one who can help us get out of the horrible mess that this pResident (he is NOT my president and never has been) and his inept, power-hungry, greedy, heartless administration has gotten us into.

I sure hope he decides to run. If he does, I'll be a volunteer, I'll help get the word out, and I'll do everything I can to help get him elected. I think a Gore/Edwards ticket would be such an uplifting, healing force for our poor battered country and would help restore our tarnished image in the world.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 10:40 PM
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23. Monica Friedlander is a sweetheart
Several months ago, DU's Bernie McCoy posted a thread using photos of the Kennedy library & then Gore. I thought the idea was great for a video so I put one together. The next day, I received an email from Monica (she's also a DU member) asking if I could modify the video to be mainly about Gore so she could host it on the DraftGore website. I can't begin to tell you how tickled I was that she contacted me and it is still on the website to this day. She also sent me DraftGore bumperstickers (which I proudly have on my car) and pins which I wear quite often. The response I get is VERY positive and I live in SW Virginia...a very red part of the state.

The presidency will be Gore's if he chooses to run. I have no doubt he would garner at LEAST 60% of the vote. I will also be part of that national network of volunteers, presently waiting and hoping in the wings. :D
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 10:51 PM
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25. Gore "lost" FL because of the 10's of thousands of black people
that were either purged from the voter rolls or otherwise prevented from voting.
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 07:49 PM
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69. Exactly, FL was a sham (Criminal Bush Brothers and a Corrupt Supreme Court).
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 11:03 PM
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26. To await the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize just to use it for political speculation...
Is shallow at best. And to think Mr. Gore is only waiting to see it awarded to him to use it for that purpose shows what some really think of his character. The symbolism of him winning this prize should he goes far beyond some petty political campaign, and yes, while I know there is s hide thread and ignore mode on this forum, I too will state that I am getting a bit tired of seeing people use this prize as a political trophy just to push their own agendas like they do in putting every damm action and word of his under a microscope. Don't people who sit here all day just doing that have anything else to do? Like say, maybe take action on this crisis themselves?

Even the media has done nothing but diminish the true meaning of this prize by only suggesting Mr. Gore is waiting for it to use it for his own political aspirations. How disappointing to see people who claim to support him and actually read the words he writes falling into the same BS line as the media.

All I know is, should he win the Nobel it will be special to me because of the work he is doing on the climate crisis and the impact it can have to inspire people around the world to begin taking action on it now before it is TRULY TOO LATE. Unless of course, all of this BS speculation about what he intends to use it for only stops them from awarding it to him in the first place.

I truly think some need to change the record and realize just why he was nominated for the prize in the first place, and it wasn't for being a "politician" but for being a man who is doing what he is doing not to "run" for anything, but because this is important to him. Were that it were as important to many more in this world we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now. But let the wheel spinning just go on and on.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:10 PM
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42. Quick everyone, look! It's the One True Keeper of the Al Gore Flame of Truth!
:eyes:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:35 PM
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75. Yes and look, the same people harrassing Al Gore just because it is 'fun"
And by doing so they don't then have to do anything else as long as they can plan parties, and rallies, and talk themselves giddy to not have to discuss anything of substance.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:07 PM
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77. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:07 PM
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83. Okay, NOW I'm pissed off
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 11:49 PM by kgfnally
I just went to what I presume is "your" blog, the one you link to in your profile- I don't know, maybe if it isn't "yours" you're just a fan of that particular blog; God knows why, given what I found there- and guess what? The front page doesn't allow for comments and while the PFG forum is filled with topics- quite a few, actually- they were all started by the same username: Patriotess. With the exception of one single post in one topic forum.

The topic starter replies to herself occasionally, but other than that, there's no discussion. Plus, if that blog forum works like this one does, every view of the page counts toward the view count- even that of the topic starter. Why would someone pump the views up on their forum? Why wouldn't people viewing the forum talk about it?

As if that weren't enough, the front page "archives" go back to 2005. Supposedly. Maybe. I'm too completely disgusted to bother to check. Will I find that the entire front page is plagiarism such as I'm about to describe?

Which leads me to this quick question: if that site, presumably yours, has been around since 2005- why is there only one person posting in the forums- and better yet, why are they posting topics such as this (gosh, does that sound familiar to anyone else but me)?
And then there are plagiarism posts like this one, which appears to be the entire article linked to in the post. That happens again here, here, and here, and probably in each and every single last goddamn topic that's on the forum you link to in your DU profile.

I think this:

Given this is the blog shown as your homepage in your DU profile, and also given the:

1) supreme level of copying and pasting of full articles on that site, apparently to lend it "legitimacy",
2) the fact that there is exactly one person posting there and
3) the front page allows for no comments, and all posts appear to be by "Jan"

I think I know exactly where you're coming from, have been coming from, and will in the future be coming from, because it's plain as the nose on my face that the blog you link to in your DU profile is a goddamn fraud- and I think the rest of DU should see my reasons why. Go ahead, everyone- mods included; it really is this obvious- open up every link I just handed you. See what the blog this fine DUer links to in her profile has to say about Al Gore, and how many there have to say it, and how much that one supercalafragilisticexpialadochus poster has to copy/paste parrot say.

Anyone else feel the same way? Or did the blog "go down" already? *snicker*

Edit: the links on the right side of Jan's RestoreGore's blog- the one s/he links to in her/his DU profile, that is- also contain- surprise!- yet more posting of full articles, and Jan seems to be quite the busy little beaver throughout.

And then, on the right side of the main page, there's this.

Therefore, on December 26, 2003, Patriots for Gore assisted in the opening of a phone bank to contact registered voters in NH about the write-in campaign to support Mr. Gore. Thousands of voters had been contacted as of Monday, January 26th, 2004 through the efforts of volunteers with Draft Gore NE and Patriots For Gore. Based on the feedback we got, we were very encouraged. In addition, Patriots For Gore ran ads on radio stations beginning January 19th in order to seek to secure the needed amount of votes to make the 15% threshold for possible delegate representation.


:crazy:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 09:37 AM
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87. I don't have time to check it out right now but I surely will be taking the time soon!
Thanks kgfnally :)
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:42 PM
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88. Are you for real?
Actually taking the time to go through my sites must mean you really don't like my comments here. How absolutely childish. Big deal, I have a website and I post there to post information. It's MY forum and I can do what I like. It's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Big deal, I have a blog for Al Gore where I post with my first name and in many cases crosspost there what I post elsewhere. I can do that. It's my blog and it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Gee, I bet noone else ever does that. Just what the hell is your problem, and what are you trying to prove? Looks to me like the only reason you are angry is because you just don't like my opinions so you attack me... How "political" of you. I have a blog that is linked to my profile here because it is my blog with my writings which are many times crossposted elsewhere under my screenname there whatever I choose it to be. it's afree Internet, and it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. But hey, if nosing around out of spite gives you something to do to fill your day, go to it because it just proves I get under your skin if you took the time to go through all that which actually is out in the open for anyone to see...So thanks for the plug! And it would seem the only :crazy: one is someone who would go through all that trouble for nothing just because they are meanspirited. But thanks for visiting. Stop by again!:hi:

Oh, and don't forget this one:

http://water-is-life.blogspot.com

And this:

http://www.patriotsforgore.com
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 11:14 PM
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27. Another nugget: this one from Sept 29th
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 11:16 PM by utopiansecretagent
This comes from DU'r Lisa's (thanks Lisa!) report of an Al Gore event in Victoria, BC on Sept 29th:

From the audience Q & A session -

Q: Are you going to run for President in 2008?

A: mock surprise, “I’ve never been asked that!” (hah!)
No intention. Haven’t ruled it out, but don’t expect it.


full report:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3569655





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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 11:22 PM
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28. The Nobel Peace Prize means nothing to righties
Just look at how they are still smearing Carter at every opportunity. I like Gore and I hope he will run. But I think there's a danger in supposing that a Nobel would make him a shoo-in. In a politically sane country, it would. But this is still George Bush's America, despite bad numbers for Bush himself. Bush is finished, but it's by no means clear that his ideology is. It will be a tough battle all the way.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:15 AM
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30. What are the Dates to Get on the Primary Ballots?
That's really become the key contraint here. Outside of Gore's not running, that is.
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MsRedacted Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:08 PM
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41. Nov 2 NH closes it's ballot.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:34 AM
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31. C'mon Al, you country needs you. n/t
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:54 AM
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33. Kick!
:kick:
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thetaoofterri Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. I hate being reduced to begging
But I will.

Al, please, please, please run! I am begging you.

My weekly letter went out yesterday. I refuse to give up hope.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:07 PM
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34. Great idea!!!
That's nominate the guy who couldn't beat the stupidest man ever to run for the office!! That's the ticket, how about we draft Dukakis for VP?
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:17 PM
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36. I saw him here in Austin last night. IMO, he's strategizing and biding his time.
It's just a feeling I have. There were moments in his presentation that caused me to think that he'd been prepping for a larger stage - his poise, voice modulation, etc. Well-rehearsed one-liners. He joked about being on Apple's BOD - which seemed to me a very deliberate reply to those who've criticized him for that role. He appeared healthy, hearty, and slimmer than in photos I've seen.

It's a feeling.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:53 PM
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38. K&R. "nervously" is right.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #38
46. Nice photo
:rofl:
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:55 PM
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39. I want Al
I'm one of those who is waiting and I am ready to mobilize.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #39
44. Just say the word, Al
We're ready when you are.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:42 PM
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47. remember to sign here:
http://draftgore.com/

Al is the ONLY candidate I'd trade for my DK vote; but trade I would in a heartbeat...and send $$$, and organize meet-ups, and work the phone banks!!!!

Al would get more $$$ in the first weekend after he announced, then established candidates have gotten in the past month -IMHO- :)
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Semper_FiFi Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 04:00 PM
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48. This is just so sad.
If the man was interested in running for President he would have said so. It is October. Al Gore is not running.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. What have we here? An all-seeing sage who has come in out of the cold?
Prolly not.

Welcome to DU -- I guess.
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Semper_FiFi Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #52
63. I'm gazing into the same "crystal ball" ...
as the one being used by those who choose to "believe" Gore is going to enter the race. It's October. He has not entered the race. He has not said he is going to enter the race. He has not even said he is "contemplating" on entering. What could one surmise from that?

Thank you for the welcome. *He said suspiciously*
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #63
78. Drafting Gore and Gore Intending to Enter The Race are two different things. n/t
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Semper_FiFi Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #78
80. "Drafting Gore" without the result of his entering the race is an exercise
in futility.
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blayne Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 04:04 PM
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49. Great read.
I recommend reading the whole thing, as I am sure most of you have.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 04:12 PM
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50. I love that quote. K&R
Having spent 30 years as part of the political dialogue, I don't know why a 600-day campaign is taken as a given, and why people who aren't in it 600 days out for the convenience of whatever brokers want to close the door and narrow the field and say, 'This is it, now let's place your bets.' If they want to do that, fine. I don't have to play that game.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 04:47 PM
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51. What exactly would a "draft" entail? I think I recall LBJ saying he wouldn't run
again even if drafted, so my only sense of it is that the potential draftee can say 'no' unlike if it was really the Selective Service...

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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #51
55. I can't answer your question about the draft but I do know that
Ladybird told LBJ to put the "....and I can't be drafted" part into his announcement that he would not be seeking the presidency....good story. Ladybird was a wise lady!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #55
62. Didn't know that about Ladybird. Interesting. And I'll take this opportunity to
say that I love your avatar. I'm struck by it every time I see it. :thumbsup:
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:27 AM
Response to Reply #62
85. I had heard about Ladybird's objection some time ago but in
her funeral's coverage it was brought up again. It must have been so very difficult for her to experience Lyndon's grief over the Vietnam Conflict's death toll. She certainly protected him probably knowing if there had been a draft to urge him towards candidacy, he might bend!

I have watched "V" for Vendetta three or four times and am struck each time with the likenesses of our present situation and with what may lay ahead of us! There are lots of "V" avatars out there. I was surprised they were so easy to locate. Thanks! :hi:
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Flagrante Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:20 PM
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53. To go from the worst pResident in history to the best
would be a miraculous and fitting end to this nightmare.

/Gore-Dean '08!
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:57 PM
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56. A nation turns its hungry eyes to Al
Visualize President Al Gore.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #56
65. Gore-demption.



this is the very moment our democracy died- read the caption...
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #65
79. .
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:13 AM
Response to Reply #65
84. .
.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #84
89. question- what does it mean when someone replies with a period and no text?
seen it done before but never understood.

:shrug:
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:08 PM
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57. Glad I got to K&R this before time ran out! Thank you for posting
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 06:11 PM by snappyturtle
this! I hadn't heard of the six hundred day statement....It makes sense to me. I think he would be a much better campaigner than he was but I also have a feeling it is not a favorite activity so why would he start 600 days out?

I am well aware that many say if he wanted to run he would now be in the race but his views are well known and he definitely has name recognition. He can do it. I would just like one of the naysayers to point me to a link that quotes Al Gore saying, "I will NOT run for the presidency in 2008." Haven't seen that....in that I find some peace and hope.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:10 PM
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58. My letter to friends sent just this morning...
(feel free to edit and send it on to your friends and family...)

Hi folks!

I am writing you because i am not thrilled with our choices for the
upcoming presidential primaries. The candidate foremost on my list
may differ from yours, may be the same- no matter. The one that gets
the nomination will probably win- but will we? I hate to be
pessimistic but it feels to me like whomever gets the nod will be
"more of the same", work for the same "boss" (read: Major Corporations).

Please humor me and visit www.draftgore.com . Signing the petition
will not force Gore into the race- but it may let him know that there
is a groundswell of support if he chose to enter the race.
Personally, i would work tirelessly for him should he run. Al Gore
is still undecided. He hasn't yet said he will not run- leaving the
door open. Maybe we can push him gently through it!

So check it out- http://draftgore.com then do what you like re
signing the petition... it's your choice, after all. Aren't more
choices better?

stlsaxman

ps. i wrote this all by myself- from the heart... pardon the "mass
mailing"
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:13 PM
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59. If he's not up to the job, then let someone else do it
The job of President is way too important to force on someone who's not interested.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:18 PM
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61. Job, Yes. 700 days of campaigning, no.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:16 PM
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60. Iowa Event
Hope the Red State Update makes it!

http://runalrun.blogspot.com
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:31 PM
Response to Original message
64. I drive around with my Draft Gore bumpersticker and occasionally get thumbs-up
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 06:33 PM by paxmusa
or nice notes written in the dust of my back window.

On Edit: I'm having serious doubts that he will really enter the race. At this point, however, I'm not sure what other candidate I'm ready to back.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 07:05 PM
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66. Maybe I'm dreamin', but I don't care.
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 07:06 PM by yellerpup
He was the right guy in 2000 when he won the presidency and he's the right guy now. How cool would it be to have a Nobel laureate run for President of the USA? My country needs it's face back. Run Al run!:kick: :kick: :kick:

Edit for punctuation.
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kmkleff Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 07:08 PM
Response to Original message
67. Draft Gore
I hope Al Gore sees the last debate as a cue to go ahead and enter the race....enough of triangulation!
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #67
90. Welcome to DU!
If "drafting Gore" is what inspired you to join DU then here are some of my favorite pics that may inspire you to head to http://draftgore.com and sign the petition!

:hi:














"Now go- and sign for Gore!"
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #67
95. Welcome to DU, kmkleff!
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 07:39 PM
Response to Original message
68. The only good thing that came out of the theft is imagine if Gore was president on 911
He would have been taken out and we would now be under President Lieberman! Who talked Al into selecting JoeMentom anyway? Think about it! Just like the Hit on Reagan Bush 43 almost was sworn in seven years early.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #68
96. There wouldn't have been 911 if Gore had been President.
n/t
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:47 PM
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72. I'm hoping
that over the course of the next 3-4 weeks, results from the California petition signing effort can be updated at this site. We begin October 9 to collect 500 signatures from each of the 53 districts. Our strategy in L.A. is to quickly wrap up the "easy" districts like Waxman's and Waters', get those signatures into the registrar and then fan out to assist other districts which need more help and more time.

It is truly happening, more people are massing and it is truly a beautiful thing to watch. If we don't get press coverage, I'll try to pass along info at this site.

:hi:
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 09:22 AM
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86. To everyone saying "Gore won't run and you're nuts/stupid/dreaming if you think he will" :
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 09:29 AM by KzooDem
It's okay that you don't think Al will run. I'm not threatened by what you think/believe about Gore's possible/impossible bid for the presidency. But do you really have to imply that we're stark raving mad and pissing in the wind for thinking/hoping that he might?

The fact is, he has been coy about whether he is or is not running. True, he hasn't said yes but he sure as hell has not said no, either. He has beat around the bush (no pun intended) with comments that people could interpret either way. Given that, you are as correct to believe that he won't run as I am correct to believe that he might. We will all know once he makes a more definitive statement either way. So for right now, both camps are in the same place: wondering and waiting for confirmation.

But nooooooo. That's not good enough of a place to be for some folks. They feel some need to make those of us holding out hope for Gore out to be foolish, stupid, ignorant, wasting our time, etc... And quite frankly, I'm fucking fed up with it. Grow up and act like a progressive adult who doesn't need to castigate someone else who has a diiffering view than themselves. Some of these threads debating Gore's political intentions have been really disappointing in terms of the tone. I know this is a political discussion board and by its very nature it should be a forum for open discourse, but is it such an unreasonable expectation for us to sound like we're all ultimately on the same fucking side????
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #86
91. Hear! Hear! n/t
:toast: - "Cheers!"
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #86
92. Consider yourself the "glass half full" type and the naysayers
the "glass half empty" crowd.

And cheers to you, my friend. I am with you. One can always hope.

Sam
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:30 PM
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93. Kick. n/t
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 10:03 AM
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94. UPDATE: Draft Gore Michigan needs $ and volunteers
Our group in Michigan faces the most daunting task - 12,396 valid signatures are required by October 23rd. in order to place Al Gore on their ballot.

While volunteers are doing everything they can to surpass the required minimum, the number of signatures needed is overwhelming and it is necessary for us to hire additional help to ensure that the efforts meet the required deadline. Even if Al enters the race as many hope he will after the announcement of the Nobel, these signatures will still be needed. THIS AT PRESENT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT EFFORT OF ALL THAT YOU CAN MAKE A DONATION TO:


*To make a donation please to www.paypal.com click on "send money" and making a contribution to:


VolstoDraftGore2008@gmail.com (no spaces)

Mark "service/other" for your donation. THIS IS THE Michigan PAYPAL SOURCE, so this money will help them in their petitioning efforts.

link to DU'r debbierlus's Draft Gore update thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1981294

link to DU'r SharonRB's update thread in DU Al Gore '08 Group:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1981294



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