Anyone in favor of a DU Crime Forum? Some of the posts in GD about

[KoKo]

hangings and murders of children and animals are hard to deal with when the political news is already so bad. Not saying that politicians committing crimes or hate crimes shouldn't be in GD...but if I want the latest murder or disfunctional family meltdown...I can watch my local news for the glaring headlines. If folks are interested in the cases wouldn't a Crime Forum be a place for that? :shrug:

Again Political Crime in GD...but family crime and animal cruelty and missing persons..(unless it's a DU'er's child or family member whose missing) maybe would work better in a Forum where others who like to get into the details could discuss.

[Totally Committed]

1. I totally agree.

Political Crimes = GD

All the rest = New Forum


TC

[varkam]

2. I think that might be a good idea.

There'a too much clutter in GD anyway. Creating a new forum for crime stories might help clean the place up a little.

[AlCzervik]

3. there already is a "true crime" forum.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=313

[varkam]

5. That's a group.

Groups differ from forums in that one most be a donor before they can go in there.

[AlCzervik]

8. really? I didn't know that, i figured everyone had access to everything except for

being to post polls and the search function.

[varkam]

9. I figure since most of us are donors we really don't think about it.

But if we're going to advocate for a rule change such that all crime posts have to go in this new forum, then it's going to have to be some place where everyone can post regardless of whether or not they have coughed up some cash.

[AlCzervik]

11. you're right.

[KoKo]

7. Why don't people post in there, then....

Here's two examples that are really hard to look at :-( One is on the greatist page..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1938065

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3010318

[LisaL]

4. I think that's a very good idea.

[xchrom]

6. i can't open anymore threads about harm to animals -- just can't.

[KoKo]

I can't either and hiding doesn't work once you've seen the subject line...

maybe a Forum for Animal Cruelty...or better "Animal Rights" where folks who want to work on that issue could post. For some of us it just is too heartbreaking...because we know stuff goes on and it just makes us feel helpless.

[xchrom]

31. it just beats the hell out of me - and you're right about the subject line.

i give to animal rights -- but i don't want to know the awful details -- it's the one subject that makes me feel helpless and very depressed.

[scubadude]

10. I think these threads should just be banned by rule.

This is primarily a political forum. I believe like Michael Moore that
this type of news is bad for society. Tends to make us paranoid and
easier to control....!

Scuba

[fed-up]

12. would that include drug crimes and aftermath?-I'm thinking meth/meth labs here...

I am working on a page of links on the huge nationwide problem of former meth labs and the unfortunate buyers of such nondisclosed properties

This is also a major enviromental/public health issue, but since cooking meth is illegal would that info also belong in a new crime forum?

[KoKo]

14. Meth Labs aren't torture of animals or family murders and rapes, though.

:shrug: My post was about things like this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1938065

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3010318

[SoCalDem]

13. I find myself "hiding" threads like that.. Can't bring myself to click them

sometimes my page one has only a few threads left :)

[L. Coyote]

15. AGREE. I tire of hiding those threads.

[merh]

22. So only the societial and cultural concerns you are interested in

should be dicussed in GD, is that it?

:shrug:

[L. Coyote]

23. Yes. I should be declared the dictator for life. LOL

[merh]

16. If you keep banishing discussions you don't like to "special" forums

what will be discussed in GENERAL DISCUSSION?

If you want to discuss Politics alone in a forum you can go to General Discussion: Politics.

Or you can IGNORE the threads you are not interested in reading. "HIDE THREAD" is a very useful tool that is available at DU.

I wish folks would stop trying to censor the discussions in GD.

x(

[KoKo]

17. merh...i'm talking about animal cruely and dysfunctional family rapes and murders that aren't

done by politicians or government figures...though.

[varkam]

19. Hence the difference between GD and GD/P

I think that's what they were hinting at

[merh]

20. And those issues are societial issues and belong in GD

General Discussion - that's where we are free to discuss general topics. Culture and society are democratic concerns, no?

[KoKo]

25. What is there to discuss about brutal killing of an animal...by a crazy?

if it's a case of those animal safari's where the rich go to shoot defenseless animals who are no better than caged...then that's something we can do something about. We can organize to get animal welfare groups to stop it. But how can we stop an individual act that a deranged person does that's already being addressed in the local state by authorities?

[merh]

28. Who are you to decide what is an important issue to another?

General Discussion is for general dicussions. HIDE THREAD works wonders or just self restraint and the personal choice to ignore the threads that are of no concern to you.

Despite what the conservative message boards claim, DU is not an echo chamber and I don't want it to become one. You are advocating censorship and are behaving as the "thought police" - only topics you feel are vital should be allowed in this public forum and that to me is not right.

The "special" groups and forums require that the DUer be donors, don't they? So only those that can afford to donate should be allowed the right to discuss what you find annoying or mundane?

I don't agree.

.

[fed-up]

18. if subjects are in special forums it is sometimes easier to search only in that forum nt

[merh]

21. Not everyone has access to the special groups

Don't you have to be a donating member to have access to those groups?

Concerns of our society and culture are concerns of the democratic party and threads on topics you aren't interested in can be ignored.

I personally am tired of all the "free speech" zones that are being set up.

.

[KoKo]

27. I understand what you say.....I think it's just that "Random Acts of Violence"

are harder to discuss than ones where there's something that can be done. But, i see your point.

[AngryAmish]

24. no

[The Straight Story]

26. How about a DU sex forum or swingers' forum

:rofl:

[fishwax]

29. I think those belong in General Discussion

I don't like the narrowing of GD, myself. I think it's fine the way it is. As with all the other topics that people get sick of and/or complain about being in GD, it is easy enough to ignore those threads.

[Frosty1]

30. Why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" ...

:sarcasm:

[KoKo]

35. Babs Bush is a disgusting excuse for a mother....given her privileged kids are mostly criminals

please don't put me in her category... :puke:

[gollygee]

32. This is *general* discussion - there's already GDP if you just want politics

This is the place for news stories, including crimes.

No, I don't want them moved elsewhere.

[bobthedrummer]

33. Some of the State forums are utilized for discussion of profoundly disturbing crimes

example:

"BREAKING: Child abduction, abuse, possible homicide in Portage" (started 6-15-2007 by sybylla)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=186x21098

Many of the issues discussed in that thread aren't local, nor just law enforcement related.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST

[Whisp]

34. it surely is a crime what some DUers come up with here. ;)

I think putting up a special forum for that is a great idea.