Mandatory HPV Vaccine - approve or no?

[mondo joe]

Tx governer Perry used executive power to make mandatory the vaccine for HPV, the most common cause of cervical cancer.

Perry has also directed state health authorities to make the vaccine immediately available through the Texas Vaccines for Children programme for "young women" aged 9 to 18, and through Medicaid for those aged 19 to 21.

The directive also empowers parents with the choice to opt out of mandatory vaccinations for reasons of conscience, including religious beliefs.

[phantom power]

1. Is it really mandatory, if anybody can opt out for "reasons of conscience?"

[mondo joe]

2. Let's say it's mandatory with exceptions. Making it mandatory means insurance

has to pay for it.

[phantom power]

4. In that case, I think it certainly should be "mandatory."

At any rate, I think insurance should clearly pay for it. Considering the health benefits, not allowing people to get this on insurance seems morally indefensible.

[mhatrw]

8. What about any possible health risks?

Far more than 99.9% of the women given GARDASIL would not get cervical cancer with or without it. So if there is ANY risk associated with this vaccine, the risks could far outweigh the benefits.

For example, the alum adjuvant in this vaccine was recently shown to cause to neural death in mice.

News rticle: http://www.straight.com/article/vaccines-show-sinister-side
Peer reviewed medical journal paper: http://tinyurl.com/3xhtdz

In addition, http://www.nvic.org/Diseases/HPV/HPVrpt.htm

A 16-year-old Illinois girl was vaccinated July 7th and 13 days later developed symptoms eventually diagnosed as Guillian-Barre Syndrome. A 14-year-old girl in the District of Columbia was vaccinated on July 11th and complained of severe pain immediately following the injection, fell off the examining table and experienced a 10 to 15 second fainting spell ending up in the emergency room with a headache and speech problems.

Note that when Merck did the tests on GARDASIL's safety, they used a shot of alum (aluminum salt) as the "control placebo."

http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/263/28/

According to the Merck product manufacturer insert, there was 1 case of juvenile arthritis, 2 cases of rheumatoid arthritis, 5 cases of arthritis, and 1 case of reactive arthritis in 11,813 Gardasil recipients plus 1 case of lupus and 2 cases of arthritis out of 9,701 participants primarily receiving an aluminum containing placebo. Clinical trial investigators dismissed most of the 102 Gardasil and placebo associated serious adverse events, including 17 deaths, that occurred in the clinical trials as unrelated.

If just one of these serious cases was due to adverse effects from the vaccination, the whole "benefit" profile of GARDASIL goes out the window. Less than 2.5 out of every 100,000 US women dies from cervical cancer annually, and HPV screening has reduced that number by about 75% over the last four decades. At best, only 70% of these cases could be helped by GARDASIL. Now compare this to 1 out of 22,000 (the total number of subjects in the GARDASIL tests including "placebo" subjects) getting a major vaccine-related illness over the (at most) four year follow up period of the studies. Now consider that this vaccine was tested on less than 1,200 girls under 16 and the follow up period for this study lasted only 18 months.

[northzax]

3. I disagree

not because I don't think it's a good idea (I do) but because I do not like the idea of government mandating vaccines for things that are not communicable within the school environment. That said, people should get this vaccine.

[antigop]

5. The point that people are missing....

is that by issuing an executive order, Perry ignored the Texas legislature.

And a GOVERNOR now has set a precedent for dictating health policy ON HIS OWN without debate/input/vote from the legislature.

I don't know why people aren't screaming about this. It's a subversion of democratic principles.

[Green Mountain Dem]

6. Be very very.....

skeptical of ANY mandated vaccination! Our daughter was brain damaged from a mandated DPT vaccination when she was 18 mos old. The P (Pertussis) part of the vaccine was known to be contaminated for years, but the DPT shot is required if you intend to enroll your child in a Public School. Pertussis (Whooping Cough) vaccine has virtually eliminated this horrible disease, but many many children have suffered horrendous brain trauma from this contaminated vaccine.

Our daughter, Danielle, will soon celebrate her 30th Birthday and has been a constant source of joy and amazement. She still lives with us and continues to surprise us with her perpetual optimism and if you were to let Danielle into your life..she would be there for life, no questions asked!

She represented the State of Vermont in the Special Olympics World Games, held at Raleigh-Durham NC and returned home with a Silver Medal!
We are so proud of our daughter but we often wonder if we should have been more vigilant about the vaccinations and done more research before consent.

[mhatrw]

7. What about Washington State's model?

Wouldn't Washington State's model be infinitely preferable to Texas' model when discussing a new vaccine that was hardly even tested on its targeted population (11 & 12 year old girls) and brought to us by the same company that told us VIOXX was perfectly safe?

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4530059.html

The vaccine against the virus cited as the cause of most cervical cancer will be offered free to girls in Washington state, but there are no plans to make vaccination mandatory as in Texas, authorities said.

[mondo joe]

10. Different poll. NT

[MrSlayer]

9. Totally against it.

No one is shooting my daughter up with anything. Who the hell knows what is in that shit? I don't trust any of those bastards enough to just ok whatever they want to do.

[mondo joe]

11. Did your daughter receive other mandatory vaccinations?