What is Democratic Underground?

[burythehatchet]

Loyalty to a party or loyalty to progressive principles?

Sorry if that's a silly question; I'd really like to know the answer.

[nini]

1. Why does it have to be either of those?

How about it's a website where Democrats can discuss issues?

[blondeatlast]

25. It HAS to be one or the other because if it sin't, no one can whine about

how badly they are mistreated by those "other" DUers.

It's hard to be sane here, but DUers like you offer a glimmer of hope. :hi:

[nini]

26. snort

I try and keep my sanity but it is surely tested at times

:hi:

[NashVegas]

2. It's a Message Board

plain and simple.

[TwilightZone]

3. It depends on whom you ask.

The owner's viewpoint is here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

A portion:

Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats and other progressives. Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office. Democratic Underground is not affiliated with the Democratic Party, and comments posted here are not representative of the Democratic Party or its candidates.

[Middle finga]

4. If I had a vote I would pick loyalty to progressive principles

[burythehatchet]

5. me too

[Iris]

6. me, too. Otherwise, it's just Democratic Mainstream.

[goodhue]

7. why the need for loyalty to anything

loyalty is overrated

[burythehatchet]

15. ok, replace loyalty with the more appropriate "committment" or "devotion"

the meaning stays the same

[bobbolink]

8. It's becoming an issue. I hope there's much consideration going into the anwer to your question.

[mudesi]

9. THIS is Democratic Underground:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010219071508/www.democraticunderground.com/about.html

The Democratic Underground Manifesto
lib.er.al adj., belonging to the people, free, to grow up, rise 1. suitable for a free man; not restricted 2. giving freely; generous 3. large or plentiful; ample; abundant 4. not strict 5. tolerant of views differing from one's own; broad-minded 6. of democratic forms of government 7. favoring reform or progress; specif., favoring political reforms tending toward democracy and personal freedom for the individual; progressive

con.ser.va.tive adj., 1. preservative 2. tending to resist or oppose any changes in established traditions or institutions 3. generally large waisted 4. maligning people of different color, nationality, religion, and/or sexual orientation 5. feeling victimized by those of lower social standing 6. shouldering unusual amounts of paranoia/fireams 7. irrationally terrified of a) government subversion b) communist invasion c) homeless people

The conservatives have turned "liberal" into a dirty word, and we're taking it back. We of the Democratic Underground have decided the time has finally come to lower ourselves to their level. We're talking all out, balls-to-the-wall, light-the-fuse-and-stand-well-back thermonuclear partisan warfare.

No longer will we shrug our shoulders as Rush Limbaugh blithely tosses out another line about "liberal hypocrisy". No longer will we nod and smile politely as Robert Novak body-slams our ideals, kicks them in the crotch, and then pisses all over them.

They think that it's every man for himself, and screw you, Jim. They want the government to keep its nose out of your business - as long as your business isn't listening to rap music, or medical marijuana use, or preventing an unwanted pregnancy, or not wishing to be forced to pray in school. They want the States to have absolute control over their own destinies, as long as it doesn't get in the way of fixing a Presidential election (and they said Al Gore wanted to win at any cost).

They're hypocrites of the very worst kind. They think that claiming the high ground means you sling shit until there's a big enough pile to stand on.

Well we're sick of it. Not just because they're wrong, but because, let's face it, they're having way more fun than we are. Not only did they steal the election but they got to call us stupid while they were doing it, and now they're going to squander eight years of peace and prosperity.

Understand, it's not Democratic Underground's job to stop them - there are plenty of people around who are far better organized for that. But we can stop them from getting away with it. Every time an immigrant maid, or a tobacco company payoff, or an inconvenient DUI (or two) comes along, we'll remember - and we'll be here for you to vent your spleen. To paraphrase the greatest politician of our time: we feel your pain.

So let go of those bi-partisan feelings, people. Get in the forums and blow off some steam. It's time to stop beating ourselves up and start swinging in their direction...

The Staff of Democratic Underground

[Dr Fate]

10. For those DLCers who supported Joe Lieberman (I-3rd Party) it was neither. n/t

n/t

[hiphopnation]

11. why the latter, of course

duh

:hi:

[Solly Mack]

12. it's a watering hole

drink or not, socialize or not...come to be seen...come to be heard...come to tell the other critters how they're drinking wrong and how they could be drinking better if they would just listen to the experts...at which point they feed you to the crocodiles...but hey, they gotta eat too

[Swamp Rat]

22. LOL!

[Solly Mack]

24. That is truly disturbing

[La Lioness Priyanka]

13. since more than one person and view can post, its both.

[rucky]

14. dude, we're, like, underground

on the down-low
off the radar
behind the scenes
in the shadows
secret squirrels
phantoms
le resistance
strong enough for a man, but made for a woman

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

17. lol

nt

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

16. Answer: an internet discussion board started in 1/2001 that asserts a Democrat or progressive,...

,...leaning.

Judge for yourself.

What I would like it to be more of is a discussion board that ATTACKS THE RW POWER-MONGERING MACHINE DETROYING BOTH DEMOCRACY AND PROGRESSION. But, it seems popular to attack both democrats and progressives on this board. Dunno' why but it just seems that way.
:shrug:

[shaniqua6392]

18. It is where like minded people gather

to promote Democratic ideas/opinions. It is where you can make friends even though you may never see them face to face. It is where you learn.

[bobbolink]

19. I'm not "like-minded" with DLCers.

Never have been, never will be.

[shaniqua6392]

20. So if you walked into a room that held many friends

and you saw one enemy, you would walk out on those who were friends??

[bobbolink]

21. I'm not "like-minded" with DLCers.

Never have been, never will be.

[undeterred]

23. its a verbal fight club

:hide:

[idgiehkt]

27. I don't think

democrat and progressive are synonymous. One can be a democrat and be neither progressive or liberal. Most democrats, truth be told, are probably neither. So I don't know what progressive has to do with DU.