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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:13 PM Original message |
If they want to force a woman to have an ultrasound before an abortion |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. I missed something. Who's 'they' and what would be the point? nt |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Sam "Frozen embryos talk to me" Brownback. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I'm sorry sister |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That's pathetic. Furthermore, who'd pay for that ultrasound? Most |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Careful, Sam. Forced ultrasounds and forced childbirth smell like socialized medicine. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. but it's okay because it's being forced upon women |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Sounds like a "big-gubbmint program" to me, Sam.. |
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colinmom71 (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Actually, a lot of clinics now perform ultrasounds... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Pick the fundie group or state |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
57. Minimally these fundie groups should PAY FOR THIS BS! |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. What is this about???? |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Senator Brownback has introduced a bill that would require women seeking an |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. includes laundry pins to keep your eyes open? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. That SOB. Then I want him to be made to see what all his sperm might grow up to be before he |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. ahah! I was thinking that |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. have no idea what this is about, but I agree with you! nt |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. The fundies are gearing up to handle this new ultrasound requiremen |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I think it's a good idea. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. How incredibly generous of you to allow a woman a few *mistakes*. |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. There are many women out there |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. So? |
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colinmom71 (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. And funnily enough.... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
70. My daughter developed HELLP Sydrome, an extreme form of pre eclampsia, in |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. people face difficult decisions all the time |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Women are not some helpless creatures |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. See that's the thing about individual freedom. Your enlightened |
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Extend a Hand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. There are many women scarred for life |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. How many women are scarred to life because they had babies they weren't ready for? |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. or... how many children were scarred for life by parents who didn't want them? n/t |
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JBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
50. Rick? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
60. And millions of people have babies who shouldn't have had them. That is irreversible. |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
61. Get this POS off our board. Yeah, asshole, women are so |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
66. If a woman is not mentally and emotionally capable of handling an abortion, are they capable of |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
69. It's not your place to make other peoples' decisions for them. |
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PDenton (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. ultrasound has nothing to do with the risks |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
63. Agreed. An ultrasound will do nothing to make the procedure |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. And how do you think women should be forced to have her tubes tied? |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. If you don't want a child |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Why do we get |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. hee hee -- we're talking major oxymoron here! |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Why don't you say what you really mean? Those that can't afford to have a child or don't want one |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
53. Why put yourself through birth? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
67. If I didn't have an abortion I'd have been a horrible parent, been scared for life, my child also. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. take your rw BULLSHIT talking points elsewhere, nobody believes them here |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Huh? What makes you think she would have changed her mind? |
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tandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. Why not just sterilize the men who cause women to have the abortion? |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Interesting idea |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. I think you're a misogynist asshole. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. really. all they have to go on is emotional blackmail. PATHETIC! |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
64. It's a fat fucking Freeptard, typing in their jammies, pretending |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. Oh really? Who is going to pay for it? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
45. i'm sorry for your daughter in law, and can understand |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. Get off the fence. You support choice or you don't. Suggesting a forced tubal ligation is disgusting |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
59. There are thousands of babies waiting to be adopted out there. emotionally scared? |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 07:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
62. Fuck you all to hell, on so many levels. Sorry DU, this |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
65. And how would viewing an ultrasound have helped your daughter be not emotionally scarred? |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
46. Only if the father's get a testicularogram |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. I think they ought to make men view a cartoon with little anthropomorphic sperm |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. Then just before Brownback pops a nut (assuming he can) |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. or force people in the McDonald's drive thru to see a video |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. I can, Let me help you out here. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. Factory farms. Slaughterhouses. Triple bypass surgery. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
41. How come no one suggests pregnant women, women trying to conceive, or women seeking an abortion |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Don't forget the audio. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. of course, they could show the PBS version where the woman barely makes a sound |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Or watch a video of a two-month-old baby at 3 am |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. ha! ha! You could just make them take a child to Chuck-e-Cheese! |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
54. This is already required in many states. One state is alone in requiring that the woman SEE the |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
58. Now that makes sense. (except for the ultrasound part.) |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
68. I think they should do that even without the woman/ultrasound thing. nt |
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