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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:00 PM
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Judge denies bail for Mychal Bell (one of the Jena 6)
Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 02:39 PM by me b zola
Breaking on MSNBC

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:01 PM
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1. Damn! Even OJ got bail.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:59 PM
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22. And Mychal's bail is almost as much as OJ's
Mycahal's bail is 90k. OJ's bail was 125k.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:07 PM
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24. Well OJ's rich and a celebrity
And it's debatable he's even black.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:10 PM
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27. There's no debate that he's black
I have no issue with OJ's bail being so high. His bail was high because of his celebrity. Mychal Bell's bail was unusually high. It was actually reduced to 90k.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:01 PM
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2. Is that the judge they wanted recused? or a different judge???
please keep us posted!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:03 PM
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4. I'm not sure, I'm looking for details myself
I just walked into the room when they were in the middle of this story.

I'll post details as I find them.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:03 PM
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5. yes please.
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:24 PM
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13. Yes
Listening to Sharpton's show now.

Same judge and the attorney's have been put under a gag order.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:36 PM
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18. I just heard on msnbc that it is the same judge.
:grr:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:03 PM
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3. The judge is worried he's at risk for sitting under another tree.
WTF?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:07 PM
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6. kick
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:07 PM
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7. What charges are still pending against him?
The most serious one (I think) got thrown out, because La. law didn't allow for him to be charged as an adult for that particular crime. Is Bell charged as an adult for any other crime? And if not, why is this piss-ant judge denying bail for someone who's charged as a juvie?! :grr: :banghead:

Yo! Your Honor*! The whole world is watching! The whole world is watching! The whole world is watching!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:08 PM
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8. Good God Almighty.
:wtf:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:13 PM
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9. Let the whole country see you racist pieces of shit.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:16 PM
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10. Racism is not just a few bad apples. This ongoing nightmare
proves that. Racism exists throughout entire groups and populations. It is power that still exists, and can still ruin people's lives.

If you ever see someone here at DU claiming that racism is rare, or isolated to a few ignorant people, remember Jenna. The police, the prosecutor, the judge, a whole lot of students, and people throughout the town are not just a couple of bad apples. They are the town, and they are the law.

x(
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:26 PM
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14. It's conventional wisdom on DU that (a) racism exists, and (b) there are no examples of it...
... instead, every *alleged* example is "playing the race card", being "oversensitive", or not being able to "take a joke", or just an honest-but-deliberate mistake.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:24 PM
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31. You're right.
That conventional wisdom is nothing but shit. x(
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:36 PM
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17. Racism is institutional. That's why so many people fail to see it.
We're inside the institution and it's darned hard to see it objectively from our immersed perspective. Sometimes examples are easier to find in policies and procedures than in people's words or deeds. The Jena situation is one racist cock-up from top to bottom.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:08 PM
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25. And then there's Tulia Texas....
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:47 PM
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35. Like anyone reads Bob Herbert.
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:49 PM
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36. "If you ever see someone here at DU claiming that racism is rare, or isolated to few ignorant ppl"
Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 03:50 PM by hiphopnation23
whcih you do, frequently :-(
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:53 PM
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37. Excuse me?
I have never, ever claimed that any form of prejudice is rare or isolated.
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:58 PM
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39. the second time i've seen the royal "you" confused here on DU today
wow, everyone's on edge! must be the fact that the country's going down the tubes.

no, what i meant was "one frequently sees people on DU claiming that racism is rare and isolated" and that it's sad to see at this "progressive" board. sorry for the confusion!

:hi:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:59 PM
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40. Ah. I'm sorry for missing reading that.
:hi:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:17 PM
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11. wtf? argh
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:20 PM
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12. Un. Fricking. Believable. These racist shitbags just NEVER stop, do they? nm
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:32 PM
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15. WTF?
Bell is still being held in the same facility. Is this an adult facility? :grr:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:35 PM
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16. "Those inside of the courtroom were threatened....
...that if they spoke to anybody about this matter outside of the courtroom they will be held in contempt."
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:42 PM
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19. what the hell????????
how can this be allowed????

I can't believe this is--- no, i CAN believe it-
i don't want to.


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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:11 PM
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29. Judge slapped a gag order on them n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:43 PM
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20. time to go back to Jena
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:25 PM
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32. And what was that shitbag Judge's excuse for this Gag order?
:wtf:
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:28 PM
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34. I have no idea
Also, the DA passed out Mychal's mugshot to the media today. What was the purpose of that?
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:56 PM
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21. Perhaps we should ALL head down to Jena
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:04 PM
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23. I think we have to go over their heads
It's obvious that they don't want to do right. They are going to have to be made to do right.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:26 PM
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33. Time to start looking for organizations sending busses.
How many of you you will I be able to meet down there? :)
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:33 PM
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43. Yep
Time to go to Jena
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:09 PM
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26. This is old Miss in the 60's...same thing...the 'authorities' cannot act
with justice, just with prejudice. THIS NEEDS FEDERAL INTERVENTION...OOPS...sorry..this is the boosh administration..which is why they are getting away with it! :grr:
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:11 PM
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28. Lets hope Conyers judiciary committee convenes quickly on this. n/t
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:11 PM
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30. That judge is just being a stubborn ass. n/t
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:54 PM
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38. Kick dammit
Why isn't this getting as much attention as the tasering?

:kick:
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:01 PM
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41. because there's no possibilty of blood or injury
or devastation or lindsey lohan's latest binge...just routine compromise of the civil liberties of the country's set of second-class citizens. nothing to see here, move along...
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:06 PM
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42. Because a lot of people here know racism can't happen to them.
So it's not important to them. While random police violence could happen to any of them.

Even here, there is a lot of self-centered thinking. :(
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 05:43 PM
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44. link
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:26 PM
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49. Thanks for the link
I wasn't able to find anything about this story on the web, then life called and I had things to do.

Do they not know that the world is watching? Do they think that the gag order will stop the outrage?
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 06:10 PM
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45. people don't know what to think, they're stunned
denied bail? held in an adult facility? on a battery charge?

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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 06:47 PM
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fucking kick
for this outrage of american justice

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 06:47 PM
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46. fucking kick
for this outrage of american justice

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 07:43 PM
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47. This crap is really messed up!
The witness no one called

Coach Benjy Lewis gave two statements immediately after the school incident in which he clearly states that Justin Barker was facing him when Malcolm Shaw (not Mychal Bell) struck Barker from behind. “I saw Malcolm Shaw hit Justin Barker with his right fist to the right side of Justin’s head, right around the temple,” Lewis wrote. “Justin went down face first, knocked out . . .” Most witnesses agree that a single punch knocked Barker out cold. The only adult who witnessed the punch says Mychal Bell didn’t throw it.

In a signed statement given immediately after the altercation at the school, student Jesse Beard stated that moments after the assault Coach Manning asked him where Malcolm Shaw was.


Do you get it? Mychal Bell didn't hit / beat Justin Barker!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:23 PM
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48. Yeah, but since when do racists care about the truth.
If they've got a black kid, any black kid, in custody he'll do as a scapegoat. Their whole point is to deliver a message, and they can persecute any black kid to deliver that message. :(
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:36 PM
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51. yes. exactly. exactly. pushing more and more, seeing how
far we will go to stop it.

IF we will turn out to stop it.

more dangerous than people can imagine! the stage of nationalistic - racist - totalitarianism we are at.

are we the "good germans"?
or are we the Resistance?

and how do we do this?!

i'm walking around with "The Great Mandala" playing nonstop in my head:

"win or lose now, you must choose now. and if you lose you're only losing your life."

full lyrics:
http://www.peterpaulandmary.com/music/08-06.htm

o help us all.....


solidarity
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:31 PM
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50. Is Malcolm Shaw one of the Jena 6? n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:42 PM
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54. Malcolm Shaw
Malcolm Shaw
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Malcolm Shaw, QC (born 1947) is the Sir Robert Jennings Professor of International Law at the University of Leicester and teaches international law, human rights and equity and trusts. He is a practising barrister and jurist and is the author of a best selling book on International Law.

__________ ------------------ ________________

All of the Jena 6 were high school students.

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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:53 PM
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57. a theodore shaw is. not a malcolm shaw, though. related? i
haven't found out. looking.

odd, ah?
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:36 PM
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52. thank you for posting this, me b zola. k&r.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:38 PM
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53. to borrow: Fucking Kick! eom
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:44 PM
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55. FUCKING RACIST BASTARD!!!!!!
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:47 PM
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56. I cannot believe these people.
F@ckheads.
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 02:37 AM
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58. Judge that denied bail was same one who tried MB as an adult
According to Al Sharpton, in an interview on Democracy Now! Friday, linked in the OP in this thread. He said the hearing was not only to set bail but also asking the judge to recuse himself. This interview took place before the hearing.

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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:50 PM
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59. It's Saturday morning and Mychal Bell is still in jail
Has anybody heard word if another march is in the works?
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