With the Baptismization of McCain--a thought about female clergy

[bunkerbuster1]

Of course, the Episcopal church permits females to preach, as do a lot of mainline Proddy denominations. But not the Southern Baptist Conference, nor (of course) the Roman Catholic church.

you add those two humungous denominations, and add the Muslim and Jewish varieties that exempt women from leading services, and am I correct in imagining that fully half if not more Americans attend services that CAN'T be led by women?

Is that about right?

Pretty fucked up, huh?

[Taverner]

1. American Baptists, North American Baptists and Gen Conf Baptists allow women Rev's

Southern Baptists, Conservative Baptists and Primitive Baptists do not.

[bunkerbuster1]

5. My bad, I do recognize the diff between the varieties of baptist

but the SBC is by far the largest group, yes?

[Taverner]

8. In the US, yes. Second only to the Roman Catholics

Worldwide, I'm not sure.

In the UK, for example, the more Liberal Baptists outnumber the Conservative ones.

And in the US, the SBC has long since hit their peak and is shrinking, with the American Baptists growing. I see this as a positive trend.

[Katherine Brengle]

2. Bah. Religion is a tool used to

oppress women anyway.

But it's fucked that we can't preach. Like we have less to say about the word of dog than men.

Tell that to Joan of Arc.

Fuckers.

[pnwmom]

3. Catholics make up about 25% of the population, the largest single

denomination. Southern Baptists are significantly less, so I doubt that together with the other conservative churches the figure is fifty percent. It's signicant, though.

[rateyes]

4. Baptists are autonomous....

they pass resolutions stating the general opinion...but, none of it is binding on the churches, who do what they want. There is no "allowing" or "disallowing" from the denomination. There are quite a few women pastors in Baptist churches...churches who have told the denomination to which they belong to STUFF IT.

[bunkerbuster1]

6. So I have heard, but how many rebel SBC-affiliated churches have female pastors?

Can't be many.

[rateyes]

7. More all the time.

Of course, some of those churches are dually affiliated with other, more progressive, Baptist groups, or have pulled from the SBC altogether.

Not to defend the SBC...I used to be one of them...they have been officially told by me, to kiss my rosy red ass.

[bunkerbuster1]

9. Glad to hear of it.

Perhaps there's more support out there for women leaders than I'd been willing to recognize.

[AndyTiedye]

10. I Doubt that Half of Americans Attend Religious Services of Any Kind Regularly

[bunkerbuster1]

11. Fair point, although we keep being told that an overwhelming majority believe in God

although when I check the polling data, it seems about 40% nationwide claim to have attended church in the past week.

If you lump in the occasional-goers, it's probably a majority who attend services sometime during the year.

[AndyTiedye]

12. The Churches Are Not Big Enough to Hold All the People Who Say they Go to Church Every Week

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

13. I don't see what the big deal is really

but I'm Catholic so there ya go