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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:35 PM
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"General David Petraeus's uniform does not earn him immunity from criticism."
Found at military.com


A Petraeus By Any Other Name
Jeff Huber | September 12, 2007

"How the troops are configured, what the deployment looks like will depend upon the recommendations of David Petraeus."

-- George W. Bush, August 9, 2007

Despite what Duncan Hunter and most of the other Republicans on the House Armed Services and Foreign Relations Committees would like you believe, General David Petraeus's uniform does not earn him immunity from criticism.

I thought MoveOn.org's full page "Petraeus or Betray Us" ad in Monday's New York Times was a bit more incendiary than it needed to be, but it was pabulum compared to the propaganda shenanigans the Bush administration and its echo chamberlains have pulled over the years to promote their woebegone war in Iraq. And the concern congressional Democrats have regarding Petraeus was aptly summarized by Senator Dianne Feinstein when she said, "I don't think he's an independent evaluator." That statement was more than fair, more than balanced, because Petraeus is not an independent evaluator. He's not even close.

American Caesar or Gunga Din?

Petraeus drew skepticism about his motives the old fashioned way--he earned it. Mr. Bush's "main man" is, in fact, carrying water for the administration and it is ridiculous to pretend otherwise.

To begin with, Petraeus has a personal stake in the success of the so-called "surge" strategy. He did not "invent" it, as some would have you think. Fred Kagan and other think tank neoconservatives can take the blame for that. Petraeus did, however, step up and embrace the surge when virtually all the rest of the four-star community, including the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was opposed to it. What's more, he adopted the surge even though it did not provide sufficient troops to conduct the tactics outlined in the "book on counterinsurgency" he supposedly wrote. (Generals don't write field manuals. A bunch of light colonels and majors and sergeants revised the old counterinsurgency manual, and Petraeus signed off on the revision. Whether he read it or not we may never know.)

More important to note, though, is that Petraeus's testimony before the House on Monday was in lockstep with standard administration rhetoric.

* He deliberately overstated the role of al Qaeda in Mesopotamia in the civil and sectarian violence taking place in Iraq, and perpetuated the ubiquitous inference that al Qaeda in Iraq is the same al Qaeda that executed the 9/11 attacks. When challenged on that line of argument by Congressman Gary Ackerman (D-New York), Petraeus shifted into the full evasion mode.
* He conspicuously highlighted what he considers to be military "victories" while steadfastly avoiding any mention of the fact that none of these tactical "successes" have led to one iota of progress in Iraq's political structure. In war--especially at this particular point in this particular war--tactical victories that do not lead to political gains are merely organized but meaningless violence. Petraeus knows that darn good and well, and for him to pretend otherwise in front of a congressional committee is nothing short of world-class mendacity.


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http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,148997,00.html
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:38 PM
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1. It Certainly Does Not, Ma'am
There is no blinking the fact that he lied, and at the behest of political masters. He is a disgrace to the uniform he wears and the profession he has risen so high in. Not truely a soldier, but rather a political animal....
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:42 PM
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2. "He ain't the baby Jesus" - Paul Begala on Stephanie Miller's show
talking about how he wasn't immune from criticism.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:20 PM
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15. "He ate the baby Jesus"
:rofl:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 05:05 PM
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19. he gave AK-47s to those who crucified that brat.
oops. I mean the baby jeesus.
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:48 PM
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3. It is illegal to follow illegal orders
If he has done one thing that is against the UCMJ or told one lie to perpetuate the war he is asking for it and deserves everything he is getting and more.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:48 PM
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4. We must learn to stop cowering everytime BushInc bitches about us. nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:49 PM
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5. He carried water for Bush, and thus he betrayed us.
And all the Democrats who have attacked MoveOn should be ashamed.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:49 PM
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6. I certainly agree with you there. nt
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:56 PM
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8. i totally agree!
furthermore, i still do not consider their tactic 'name-calling' as the rw would have us believe. 'betray us' is what he did.

ellen fl
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:52 PM
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7. Also, his uniform and his bush-given-stars do not ensure truth.--eom
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:02 PM
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9. It for damn sure doesn't
this hero worship of brass covered uniforms is downright scary and shows a complete lack of understanding of just how political the military is at that level...

Throw off that conditioning...









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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:02 PM
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10. WOW, they wrote this even after meeting with boosh??? link to DU article and quote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1820681

When it was all over, the bloggers seemed wowed. “All in all, it was an amazing day for Military.com and one I’ll never forget,” Carroll wrote. “In fact, I’d rank the event a close second to the time I sat in with Cheap Trick. It was that good.”

Well, it was before, but still!!!


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:04 PM
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11. military.com has guest journalists; Huber is one of the liberal ones
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 03:05 PM by babylonsister
and there aren't many. In fact, he might be 'it'.

But I'm glad any soldier who goes to the site can read this.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:04 PM
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12. Damn straight. It sure as hell didn't stop the swiftboaters from going
after Kerry.

It never ceases to amaze me that these people honestly think that it's okay for THEM to go on the attack, but when the left does it, it's a sin worthy of death or something.

Fuckwads.

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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:05 PM
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13. and that's the truth.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:20 PM
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14. Of course it doesn't. Everything, everybody, every action, every value
every thing anyone does or says or makes is open to critical analysis by others. That's why the Founding Fathers recognized the importance of free speech. The devil is in the details - not all critical analysis is created equal - and there are some things that bear up almost absolutely to any scrutiny, but certainly someone who is making decisions about who lives and who dies bears scrutiny.



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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:22 PM
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16. And don't forget his bullshit propoganda piece 10 days before the 2004 election
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:39 PM
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17. Petraeus testifying alone? ----with his boss is the way it's done usually
I think I heard this on Countdown---that Fallon should have been there also. Abizaid and Casey (the predecessors of Fallon and Petraeus) testified together in their appearances at Congressional hearings. Why are we now only hearing from Petraeus and not from Fallon?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:49 PM
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18. Maybe because Fallon can't stand him?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 03:43 AM
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20. Hmmm...
cuz Betrayus is an ass-kissing chickenshit, eh? :rofl:
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Cruzan Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 05:35 AM
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21. Petraeus "stepped up and embraced the surge" idea?
Uh, how do you think he got his fourth star?
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:51 AM
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22. Did he ever complain about being Bush's frontman?
Not that I know of.
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