Bartcop nails it

[DavidDvorkin]

Your choices on the November ballot aren't "Republican" and "Perfection."
Your choices are "more of the same" or "Democrat."

How unfortunate that this point has to be made very four years.

[Duppers]

1. ...

:thumbsup:

[The Count]

2. Sad, pathetic, but true.

[Minstrel Boy]

3. "more of the same" or

"new, improved more of the same"

[aquart]

4. Precisely.

[porphyrian]

5. How unfortunate that our choices are this limited and pathetic.

I would like to vote FOR someone, not just the lesser of evils.

[Gregorian]

6. Why doesn't Bartcop have a place in public office.

He has always had a way of breaking things into one sound bite. I see him as the Karl Rove antidote.

And he is way ahead of the curve.

Bartcop rules!

[Zodiak]

7. What we are trying to avoid is

"more of the same with an R" and "more of the same with a D".

How unfortunate that this point is made every four years but no one seems to want to hear it, even when we have lost elections over it. If this message was heeded, there would not be any more "lesser of two evil" elections for progressives, but alas...we have to chase moderate voters to the chagrin of most of the party's constituents.

I still have yet to see "perfection" being touted by anyone in the grassroots. There is a big chasm between "perfect" and "acceptable" and all I have seen in the netroots is the desire for someone to vote for who is acceptable.

We have got to stop constructing strawmen about other people's positions because it is disrespectful and indicates absolutely no desire to even listen to your opponent. Bartcop is doing just with his line. I say he did NOT nail it...he is just promulgating talking points.

[John Q. Citizen]

10. Now I know why I don't read Bart Cop. I advise him to vote for who he wants,

and I'll do the same.

[americanstranger]

8. More of the same...

...or slightly less of the same.

- as

[Gregorian]

9. Isn't he addressing the media sandbagging?

I think he's asking us to look at the bigger picture.

What was Kucinich's stance on abortion at one time... We're picking our candidates apart. And we should. But there is room for political beer goggles, for lack of an intelligent discussion from me. :)

He's a lot deeper than it seems. Or I think he is.

[11 Bravo]

11. Yup. Sadly, the "more ideologically pure than thou" crowd is not restricted to DU.

Enough of them voted in Florida in 2000 to allow a sociopath, enabled by a corrupt SCOTUS, to steal the election.

[Zodiak]

12. Regardless of whether you like them or not

They are there and they still think the same way as they did in 2000.

Would a smart Democratic party sit around and blame them, alientating them further, or would a smart Democratic party try to return them to the fold and earn their votes?

It is up to the party to come up with a winning strategy, not blame the voters when they fail to win.

[Disturbed]

13. The Electoral System

The Electoral System

Repeal the 12th amendment, reforming the electoral college, standardizing party qualifications in the states, qualified and free access to public airwaves.

1.Uniform Ballot Access
2.Loosen Third Party Ballot Restrictions
3.Universal Voter Registration
4.Election Day Holiday
5.Equal Media Access/Debate Inclusion
6.Instant Runoff Voting (IRV)
7.Secure Voting Machines
8.Public Campaign Financing
9.Direct Popular Vote Election of the President
10.DC Congressional Representation

But the Commission on Presidential Debates -- set up 13 years ago by the two major parties and amply funded by large corporations -- knows what's best for its backers. The commission is insisting on a strict 15-percent-in-the-polls threshold for participation, a requirement that seems sure to limit the debates to Bush and Gore.

Despite its civic-minded pose, the commission has always been looking out for the interests of the Democratic and Republican parties. It arrived on the political scene in 1987 to hijack the nation's presidential debates -- while ousting the nonpartisan League of Women Voters, a group viewed by the major parties' hierarchies as insufficiently subservient to their desires. At the outset, a New York Times headline got it right: "Democrats and Republicans Form Panel to Hold Presidential Debates."