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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:05 PM
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ABC News: "Craig Must Show 'MANIFEST INJUSTICE' to Withdraw a Guilty Plea"
Though Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct earlier this month, he said Tuesday that he had done nothing wrong and suggested that he may try to withdraw his plea.

But Craig will have a tough time getting out of that guilty plea, Minnesota criminal lawyers and law professors told ABC News. Unless he can show some serious flaw in the plea, Craig will probably be stuck with a criminal record.

"It's a final thing. If you put in a plea, that's that," said Jeff Mohr, a criminal defense lawyer in Minneapolis. "Unless there are really unusual circumstances, he wouldn't be able to withdraw."

Stephen Simon, a professor at University of Minnesota Law School, said Craig would have to prove a "manifest injustice" to get out of his guilty plea. That standard is so difficult to meet, he said, that motions to withdraw pleas are seldom made in Minnesota, and even less frequently granted.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3537318&page=1
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:06 PM
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1. This is premium entertainment.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:11 PM
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9. Could even interfere with the new Desperate Housewives season.
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 09:12 PM by JohnnyLib2
Ratings will be great, for sure. :evilgrin:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:07 PM
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2. Larry Craig still thinks he can win re-erection in '08..
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:08 PM
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3. I have no idea what universe Arlen Specter is living in, nt
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:11 PM
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6. It Would Be Wild If Specter Took His Case
I don't think Senate rules prohibit it...

It would be the trial of the new millenium...
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:11 PM
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8. Keep it on the front burner, Arlen. Don't let it die a natural death.
What a gift......a beautiful gift.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:34 PM
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17. That would be the parallel universe located just outside of Pittsburgh, off of I-79.
Where Arlen has stored all of his integrity in a large, invisible warehouse built special for him by the DOD.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:41 PM
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21. At Peachins! (a Deliverance version of Value Village in the hills of Connellsville.)
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:09 PM
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4. That move would be sure to keep the details in the news for
weeks on end.

So good luck with that, Sen. Craig!

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:10 PM
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5. Linkee no workee. What did Specter say that everyone's referring to?
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:15 PM
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11. He urged Craig to reconsider his resignation. n/t
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:11 PM
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7. It's gonna be tough to get out of this, Larry.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:13 PM
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10. Since it was a plea BARGAIN rather than a plea
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 09:17 PM by rocknation
does that make it harder or easier? I mean, if the plea bargain's cancelled, could he be re-tried on the original charges?

:headbang:
rocknation
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:24 PM
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15. I'm not sure what you are saying. Plea bargain includes a plea as part of the bargain.
It's pretty unusual for a "cancellation" or reversal unless coercion, torture etc. could be proven.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:25 PM
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16. Craig Can Argue He Was Non Compes Mentes
After all he is a Republican...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:21 PM
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12. Republicans don't believe it's true
All he has to do is go through the motions of fighting this injustice - a la Ollie North. He'll be a friggin' hero.

The left has already vindicated him, it's a terrible injustice that he was even arrested.

He'll be secure in his seat by Friday.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:45 PM
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22. Who?
I haven't heard one elected Democrat commenting on this.

Arianna Huffington is a self appointed talking head pundit who represents no one.

You're worrying about nothing, imho. This whole thing plays to our benefit if it's kept in the press for any length of time.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:22 PM
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13. The police in Minneapolis should change the charge
To sexual deviance or something along those lines. Make him a sex offender because it would have been real easy for a minor to walk into that rest room and witness one of his sexual acts.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:23 PM
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14. But, but, it was manifestly unjust because it only involved a Republican US Senator.
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 09:23 PM by Major Hogwash
Obviously Faux Snooze will have to have O'Reilly explain this to all you cretins.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:36 PM
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18. the gift that keeps on giving.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:39 PM
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19. Aside from the publicity and political factors,
why would he want to?

Disorderly Conduct is a trivial misdemeanor, barely more serious than a speeding ticket. IIRC, his punishment is to pay roughly $500 in fines (which I'm sure doesn't even count as pocket change for Craig) and he's done.

Certainly, there are the political factors that pushed him to resign from the Senate, but most people charged with disorderly conduct would just pay the fine and move on.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:40 PM
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20. Hey! Your Honah! I gotcher manifest injustice right HERE!
:rofl:
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