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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:36 PM
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If Bush invades Iran are the American people stupid enough to rally behind him?
I was listening to Pat Buchanan on HARDBALL saying how things could change in the political arena if Bush goes into Iran--as if the American people would rally behind such a move! With our troops over burdened in Iraq and Afghanistan--how can we possibly go into Iran? and how can the American people possibly support yet another misguided militaristic move by this administration? which will further move the Muslim world against us. Unbelieveable.
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MisterHowdy Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:37 PM
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1. I would bet about 50% of them would be.
n/t
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:39 PM
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3. I'm thinking
more than that.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:42 PM
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5. So this is the GOP's secret weapon to win in '08? more military misadventures
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:39 PM
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2. i pray not
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:28 PM
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18. me too, if they do rally behind the antics of this stupid and evil man
god help them. that means we got three wars going on Afghanistan is raging on too. Or will the consequences of his next PNAC move finally wake up people.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:49 PM
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30. Never overestimate the stupidity and greed of the Republican
base.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:39 PM
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4. There are no plans to go "into" Iran
Twelve to fifteen nukes will be enough to do the job they believe..Seriously...
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:42 PM
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6. 30, 40% maybe
:shrug:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:43 PM
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7. Unquestionably.
Just get them a little spooked.

You'll have 65% in no time.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:43 PM
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8. Scarbrough did also
he said that's what the American people want. And that even the democrats would get behind bush.

With the mess in Iraq who in their right mind would get behind bush.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:46 PM
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9. um, yes
cuz they will be scared. :(
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:47 PM
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10. I just don't see it.
After all the money wasted spent in Iraq, after all the lies, all the dead innocent soldiers, I just can't see anyone wanting more of the same. (Unless they personally are going to somehow profit from it.)

But then again, I never thought we'd have someone dumber than a box of rocks in the White House, either. So what do I know? :shrug:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:51 PM
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12. It wouldn't matter to the Busholini Regime.
This Regime does what the Multi-Natl. Corps & the MIC orders them to do. Amerikan opinion means nothing to them.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:29 PM
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19. unless people think war is just part of life, but it isn't.
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 07:55 PM by alyce douglas
or get so desensitized to killing people is just a way of life. And just think this could be anywhere in the US but it isn't this is Tehran: when are we going to stop this madness.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1690598&mesg_id=1690707
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:49 PM
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11. Grain of salt
Pat Buchanan may be smart--he may be the smartest conservative out there--but he has a massive track record of failed predictions (I'm sure this one will join that list). Watch him when he's with the other Gibbering Gerties on McLaughlin's PBS show, and you may hear a smart guy make a few good points. But when it comes to predicting, he only gets the award for showing up.

I believe that the American people will not support a new war effort, at least without a sense of closure on one or both of the current debacles. Another terror attack will be to the detriment of BushCo., since they have put all their eggs in one basket. Such an attack would be seen as a complete and total failure of the Bush fascist regime: Homeland Security? They'll be shown to be as effective as Brownie and FEMA post-Katrina. National Guard units to help with rescue? They're all on the other side of the planet cultivating PTSD. Who let this happen? Let's drag the ass clown from 1600 and run him across the Potomac on a rail.



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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:52 PM
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13. I have no doubt Hillary and Joe will lead the charge,
and the other democrats will just meakly fall into line, perhaps Gore will make a special apperance to reiterate that Bush is his president and away we will go into our next cluster fuck.

The Democrats have proven that even in his throughly defeated lame duck state they will not stand up to Bush.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:53 PM
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14. Just the backwash.
I can't see him getting massive support. In fact I see it going hard the other way. Unless they stage another attack. It worked once, it could work again.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:20 PM
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15.  I can only speak for myself however -
If the people who are now against this Iraq occupation but were for the Iraq attach in the first place have changed their minds for personal reasons instead of moral reasons then perhaps there may be better than 50% for the Iran attack .

I have no idea how many people are still in the fear based group or even if there is truely a plan for another attack on the US to ramp up the fear once again .

Who knows , hell we have so little info and what we do have is media spin by corporate owned media who have investments in the war machine and banking and just about everything else .
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:24 PM
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16. I used to think so
I used to say that 80-90% of Americans would support any war any time anywhere for any reason or no reason at all. And that any American president can improve his polls significantly simply by invading a small country. I think it's changing and has been very gradually changing since Viet Nam.

With Iraq, we saw an active peace movement even before the war started, and it took Americans a much shorter time to sour on the war than it took to sour on Viet Nam.

Now I'd guess that 60-70% instead of that 80-90%, in "normal" circumstances, but given the current mood about the Iraq war, I don't think it'll get more than 50% approval and probably won't lift Chimpie above 40% approval. Could even lower him. I think if he does with the intent of increasing his poll numbers, it will be a monumental miscalculation. It might increase them some, for a few weeks, until the blowback starts. Then, who knows, some jellyfish on Capitol Hill might start evolving into primitive vertebrates.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:24 PM
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17. I think it'll be extremely unpopular, but that won't be reflected in the media.
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 07:26 PM by Marr
The popular debate will be "is he fucking insane or just stupid?". The media debate will be, "is Iran a massive threat or just a terrible threat?".
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:37 PM
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20. A majority would ...
be that stupid.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:39 PM
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21. Most Americans only oppose wars when we are losing
As long as we have some dramatic early "victories" in the war against Iran, it's happy times again in the Empire.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:39 PM
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22. Absolutely. n/t
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:05 PM
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23. No, the opposite I think. Aside from the 29%, American's are fed up
Even the moderate leaning conservatives I know are fed up with this admin, and think the shrub has fucked us six ways from Sunday.

I honestly think going into Iran would be the permanent kiss of death for the Neocons. Shit, has no one noticed that we have the entire rest of the world is really pissed at the US right now? Lots of people are finally waking up to that.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:08 PM
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24. The Question Should Be Is Bush Stupid Enough To Invade Iran?.....nt
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:12 PM
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25. I Believe That a Big Number of The Sheep Would.
They are all brainwashed, limited to the M.S.N. and what their Church Pastors tell them.:(
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:39 PM
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26. Most will do what the teevee tells them to do,
rally round the bloodthirsty chimperor.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:42 PM
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27. Yes. Something is making Americans stupid.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:56 PM
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28. If the US &/or Israel attacks Iran it will happen without any
word from Congress. The air strikes will happen & nothing that anyone says or does will stop the War On Iran. The response from Iran would be massive & bloody. Thousands of US Troops in Iraq would die the first day, the Shi'ites in Iraq would go on a massive rampage & weeks afterward the USA may be attacked from within. This would be devastating to the US economy. I have read some possible consequences of an attack on Iran. They were quite depressing.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:48 PM
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29. I agree with your assessment of the situation regarding Iran.
The U.S. might even be crazy enough to start using nukes against Iran. At some point, the rest of the world is going to realize that the U.S. has to be stopped in any way possible. What a disaster!

To think that the Republican regime is largely propped up back the support of the ignorance belt South is mind boggling. It appears that our political system is now fatally flawed.

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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 12:23 AM
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31. I really don't think so.
I think the opposite would occur. People will take to the streets in protest.
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