Didn't Gonzales resign yesterday?

[JackBeck]

Well, actually Friday, but didn't we find out just yesterday that Gonzo quit?

You wouldn't know that looking at DU.

Y'all have fallen for it. All of this Sen. Craig stuff happened over two months ago. Yet we hear about it yesterday. On the heels of Gonzo calling it quits. But take a look at all the threads about Craig over the last 24 hours. Now compare that to how many are about Gonzo.

Hilarious.

[Buzz Clik]

1. Ok. I did the search exactly as you suggested. Now ... what's your point?

Craig threads in the past 24 hours in GD: 108
Gonzales threads: 154 (108 with "Gonzo")

That's overkill on both topics. And the point?

[JackBeck]

4. Bright, shiny objects. That is all.

I'd expand your search a bit and look at all of DU. From the Lounge to LBN.

And fwiw, threads discussing Gonzo should never be considered "overkill".

[w8liftinglady]

2. good point-and watch the news,too.Craig has fallen on his sword

[Webster Green]

3. Gonzo is played out..

It got covered pretty well here yesterday. The resignation is so loooong overdue, that it's a little anti-climatic. What more can we say?

Craig, on the other hand.......hoo-boy!

[spotbird]

5. It's not as if things

will improve with Gonzales gone anyway. It's a nonevent in the long run, or it will make matters worse.

[Sapphocrat]

6. "Gonzo is played out"?

Well, that's a wrap then. No more pesky testimony to distract us from the really important stuff, like bathroom blowjobs, which, like, you know, really have a grave and serious impact on the future of the United States. Gee, I feel so much better now! :eyes:

And how's about that Britney Spears, huh? What's she up to lately? And did you hear that Chastity Bono is hooked on Oxycontin again? Now there's a real story, 'cause, after all, Chas is a lesbian...

[Webster Green]

7. You know what I mean..

Sure we'll be all over it again if the dems get some balls and finish what they started.

I'm talking about the daily priorities evident on the DU. Of course it would be Craig for a bit.

Jeez!;)

[Sapphocrat]

8. If the vast majority of DUers would approach the story...

...in the same reasoned manner Max Blumenthal does...

"This story would not matter if Craig had never used his position to advance the Republican Party's officially homophobic agenda. But he has. Over and over. In November, 2006, Craig flamboyantly endorsed Idaho's successful anti-gay constitutional amendment, HJR 2, which banned gay marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships in his state. Pam Spaulding has more background on Craig's anti-gay voting record here. It's also worth recalling Craig's 1999 interview with Tim Russert in which he mocked Bill Clinton as a 'naughty boy' for his affair with Monica Lewinsky. ..."

More:
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?bid=45&pid=227277

...I wouldn't be so touchy about it. With Craig, it really is all about the hypocrisy -- but every time a Republican is outed as queer ("queer," because he's not "gay"), the incident becomes an excuse for much snickering and embarrassingly juvenile gay "jokes," all under the guise of "It's the hypocrisy, stupid!" This expands, in short order, to the usual rash of "Bush/Rove/all Republicans is/are gay!" threads, and the real point of the story is buried. Try to point out anything offensive (I'm just waiting for the first "Hey, Larry! Don't drop the soap!" prison-rape "joke" to appear), and you get slapped with "You people are so oversensitive! Lighten up! Grow a sense of humor!"

Sure, it's news that a rabidly anti-gay Republican senator was caught doing something decidedly un-hetero in a public toilet. I enjoy the Schadenfreude myself (I document stories like this for my Conservative Babylon, you know) -- but only because he's built a career on being anti-gay. If jerks like Larry Craig weren't actively working to make my life as a gay person a living hell, I'd leave them alone, and not care a whit who they're shagging.

When there's new information about Craig's case, I'll be interested in hearing it. As things stand, I don't understand the completely disproportionate attention being given to the story. The good news is that this has probably destroyed Craig's chances of re-election -- great! :thumbsup: The bad news is that he's going to suffer for it not because all his constituents will see him as a hypocrite, but because a great many of them will be revolted by the fact that he's queer.

I know it's a fine line to walk, but there really is a difference between "Hoo-boy! Another 'family-values' Repuke just got caught with his pants down!" and "Hoo-boy! Another 'family-values' Repuke is GAY! Wow, what's wrong with the Republicans? They ALL must be gay!"

You see what I mean?

[Webster Green]

10. Yes indeed, and I totally agree!

It is all about the hypocrisy!

[Clark2008]

16. Even the original quote is a bit, um... biased.

In November, 2006, Craig flamboyantly endorsed Idaho's successful anti-gay constitutional amendment, HJR 2, which banned gay marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships in his state.

I'm sure Blumenthal could have used another word than "flamboyant."

Or is that code?

:crazy:

[Sapphocrat]

21. Good point.

Sad that a perfectly good word should become code, but "flamboyant" has indeed. Blumenthal should have chosen a different word.

[NMMNG]

23. But fag jokes are so much more fun

It makes you feel 12 again. Except for those who actually are 12.

[JackBeck]

25. Aren't they, though?

Especially among progressives...

[TahitiNut]

27. Y'know... the funny thing is that I don't regard Craig's behavior as "un-hetero"

I regard it as offensive and intrusive - irrespective of sexual orientation. If I were in a unisex public lavatory (and yes, I have been in a few) it'd make absolutely no difference what gender any person was who did what he's reported to have done (peeped, played footsie, and reached under the partition) ... I'd be offended and regard it as a violation of my privacy.

I've had some gay and many lesbian friends and cannot envision any of them behaving this way. Maybe that makes me "unenlightened" or (whatever) ... but I just don't regard it as a 'gay issue' any more than I'd regard any Peeping Tom as a "gay issue."

Now ... I suppose some might have a different opinion (gotta love "different" viewpoints) but to equate such an opinion as EITHER misogynist (if it were a female) or homophobic (if it were a male) is really, really reaching, imho.

[JackBeck]

26. Seriously? You think Gonzales is "played out"?

How quaint.

[tanyev]

9. Actually, he just announced his resignation.

It's not official until Sept. 17.

[Kazak]

11. I thought the same thing...

:shrug:

[warren pease]

12. But he forgot and showed up for work this morning ready to "stay the course" for the next 15 months.

[bobthedrummer]

13. His interim replacement, Solicitor General Paul Drew Clement calls himself "10th SC justice"

and he is another of the RW's young shining stars from Wisconsin

"BREAKING: AGAG's interim replacement-Cedarburg's own Paul D. Clement" (8-27-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1672346

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST.

[gatorboy]

14. At least Craig's on topic, per se.

It's the Teen Beauty Pageant obsession that baffles me.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. you are clearly not tuned into to the biggest american problem

gay sex in public bathrooms.

[JackBeck]

17. Forget the politicization of the Justice Department for partisan purposes.

Forget the torture memos. Those were quaint.

Forget the help given to cover-up Bush's DUI.

Forget lying to Congress.

Forget the firing of attorneys who didn't make-up charges accusing Democrats of election fraud.

Let's focus on a Republican hypocrite who tried to have anonymous sex in a men's airport bathroom, in turn, making ALL REPUBLICANS GAY!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

20. there see, now you get it. the perils of gay bathroom sex.

:scared:

[Lilith Velkor]

18. Not now, we're too busy screaming and giggling at peepee parts.

[Johonny]

19. Dude

Gonzales only fought hard for the gonvernments right to torture subjects, in secret and use their confessions under torture as evidence against them in secret tribunals, fought hard to make sure important prosecutions were ignored for less important political attacks, fought to fire memembers of his department that took their job desription over party loyalty, covered up the Presidents rather shameful drunk driving record, worked hard to hire only the finest born again christian 4th tier hack university lawyers, tried to get the former AG to sign off on torture while under heavy medication and so on. As far as I can tell he did not cause the death of 8 dogs. I repeat there is only evidence of humans being being harmed horribly by his actions. In no way should he be taking air time away from this important, ground breaking dog abuse.

[JackBeck]

22. I stand corrected. n/t

[DangerDave921]

24. Easy Target

For the few diehards on here who love politics and social issues, there are an awful lot of folks who love porn threads, celebrity news, and other titilating events. Just look at the number of posts on some of those threads.

I got hammered for questioning why an Owen Wilson story was on here.