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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 10:38 AM Original message |
"The President of the United States has been leading a war on science." |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Creationism is utter bullshit! |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yes it is |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I would fight as hard to keep Creationism from being the only |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Freedom of thought, doesn't include teaching religious philosophy in the science class. |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Agreed. But it does include the teaching of alternative theories to |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. What's the alternative to genetic variablilty and natural selection, |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
24. What rational alternatives to Darwin can you propose? |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Agreed. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. Creationism is not an alternative theory to evolution. Period. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Nonsense |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. yours is one opinion and you are disallowing others - that's bunk |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. There's a pretty big gulf between observed fact and religious dogma |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Need I remind you that Darwinism is an observed theory not observed |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. You seem to have a problem with basic science. |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Basic science itself has changed drastically over the years and it will continue to do so. |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. That does NOT make creationism valid |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Never said it did . I believe in Evolution, but have serious problem with |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Of course... |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Even Newtonism has flaws as is being proven as we speak |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Well then by all means... |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Well one alternative to the Theory of Gravity is the world sucks |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Sam Sedar used to push Intelligent Falling. |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. What's Darwinism? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. It changed drastically 160 years ago when Darwin proved Evolution. |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Sorry to disappoint you, but ... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Yeah, you already posted that. |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
37. This doesn't discount evolution at all |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #17 |
35. You can think that evolution hasn't been observed all you want |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
41. So if my opinion is that the earth is flat, should that get equal time too? |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 12:10 PM Original message |
If you can support it by observable empirical data - sure |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
51. I have just as much as exists for creationism. Is that sufficient to give it equal time in science |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
46. You seem to have a problem with the scientific method... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. don't care what you think |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. You have proven my point. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
42. Careful; your hands might get sore, from waving them around like that. n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. I, for one, am sick... |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Serious flaws? Like? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Hmmmm - what serious flaws does Darwinian evolution have? |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Flaws? Sure... |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Stop it |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. Thanks for the spirited debate, it was enjoyable and entertaining |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
40. Yes. And let's make sure we have alchemy class right after chemistry and |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Yeah, and she let the comment hang out there so the listener could |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. It's not just creationism but global warming, stem cells, peak oil, clean coal, etc etc etc |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Creationism is politics not science |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
7. I just bought a book with most of the sordid details on that. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
14. Clinton did very well, IMO |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
26. What bush and his administration |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
28. Why does science hate amerika? nt |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
43. Sam Brownback says |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. LOL! That is so funny! |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-27-07 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
49. Yeah, the science of misinformation, which we in the midwest |
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