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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:05 PM
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Two reasons why I believe the death penalty is appropriate in
certain circumstances: Jessica Lundsford and Samantha Runion. The two monsters who killed these little girls deserve more than hanging in the middle of town square so all can watch. May they both rot in Hell.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:06 PM
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1. ...
:popcorn:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:06 PM
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2. public hanging? really? wow
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:08 PM
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3. If You're Familiar With The Cases Those Guys Are The Worst Of The Worst
But I'm content to see them put away forever....

Both snatched adolescent girls, raped, and killed them...
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:09 PM
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4. Absofuckinglutely - for these two assholes.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:16 PM
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12. What about Bob Murray?
What should happen to him?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:18 PM
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16. he should have to live in a mine tunnel for the rest of his miserable life.
alone.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:28 PM
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20. so, you advocate the death penalty in cases of murder
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:09 PM
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5. As long as they are guilty
but it would still be vengence, not justice.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:10 PM
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6. er...
although I understand your rage over this kind of child murder, public executions are a piss poor idea. They demean all those who participate in them- and that's putting it mildly. No matter how heinous the crime, the death penalty is not the answer.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 03:35 PM
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26. Fully agree
It makes all citizens into participants in revenge-killing. Public execution is particularly dangerous as it appeals to a violent mob-spirit, and corrupts those who observe it.

Moreover, as often pointed out, there is the chance of executing innocent people; and there is little or no evidence that it acts as a deterrent.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:12 PM
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7. NOT having the death penalty is about US, not THEM.
nt

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:17 PM
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14. Thank you, Lex. I heartily concur. nm
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:24 PM
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19. Exactly!
You hit the nail on the head with that one. Having the DP says very bad things about our culture and society. We already know they are fucking pieces of shit...so what exactly are we proving by acting in an uncivilized manner?
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:15 PM
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8. No to the death penalty. I will always condemn it in any circumstance.
It's nothing but state sponsored revenge killing and it accomplishes nothing.

Couey should not be put to death. I will shout that as loud as I can because I believe he is getting the easy way out.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:15 PM
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9. Couey gets the easy way out...
..they'll stick a needle in his arm and he'll simply fall asleep... forever.

Here's an idea - put him in prison, general population, for the rest of his life (which wouldn't be long, I suspect). When the GOVERNMENT, OUR REPRESENTATIVES, sanctions murdering our fellow citizens, it lowers US ALL to the level of the murderer.

Sorry, but I'm BETTER than that, and YOU should be too.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 11:56 AM
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31. That summarizes how I feel about the death penalty and what should be done with Monster's like Couey
I have daughters under age 9 and when I think of what happened to both Samantha Runion and to Jessica, I want to personally have a shot at someone like that (that's the raw side of me). But then I realize that's just my primal instinct as a mother and I realize that state-sanctioned murder is not okay, no matter what the crime. And in the case of someone like Couey, I truly believe it is the "easy way out" for him.

I think the idea of sticking the likes of criminals like Couey into the general prison population would be a far worse punishment and it would take the blood off the hands of the government. I think trying to make someone like Couey fight every day of his life to stay alive and not be raped in prison would be far worse punishment than the gov't's "death penalty" where he's got protection. People like Couey should spend their eternity feeling what their victim's felt, not knowing what is going to happen to them, not feeling protected.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:15 PM
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10. see sig line
We are better than that. Or at least we're supposed to be.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:16 PM
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11. Then that's two reasons I'm glad you're not in charge of determining public policy.
nt
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:17 PM
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13. Nahhhh.... Life without the possibility....
That way the other lifers will have something to do with their time.
No matter how heinous these folks are, they really know what to do with those that harm children.
And, There will be fewer attacks guards.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:40 PM
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21. You know I always agreed that life in prison for the rest of their
life was the way to go until I saw what a sweet setup Richard Speck had for himself. Had all the dope/drugs, whatever he wanted; had sex with inmates as often as he liked, and was really quite happy with life in prison. There are just some particular cases in which they should just be put to death - I was over the top about hanging in a public square, but I'm all for sticking a needle in their asshole and letting the loved ones of those they killed watch if they so wish. I also believe Charles Manson has it pretty good in jail - seems like he's happy enough.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:54 PM
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23. Manson seems "Happy enough" because he's out of his fucking mind.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:40 AM
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27. Neither of those brutally raped and murdered a child.
Big difference.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 01:38 AM
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30. Yeah, Richard Speck - dope & alcohol made from drain cleaner, man boobs - now that's living!!!!!!
I so wish I could have fun like that! :sarcasm:
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:18 PM
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15. But having the death penalty at all means innocent people will be put to death
Unfortunately, we do not have a perfect, mistake-free criminal justice system. There is no way to have the death penalty AND ensure that it is only used fairly.



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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:19 PM
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17. "Hanging in the middle of town square"? what does that achieve?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:22 PM
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18. Why do you hate Massachusetts so much? -nt
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:53 PM
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22. Nope. 2 wrongs don't make a right. The death penalty
makes us barbarians. It is barbaric :thumbsdown:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:58 PM
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24. I myself don't believe that taking a life restores a life.
And I also don't believe that vengefulness is a healthy behavior.

Be mad, be outraged to the max.

But killing people? No. It doesn't help stop these crimes and it's wrong.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 03:28 PM
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25. Actually, they are the two reasons why the death penalty is...
inappropriate.

Killing their killers will not bring them back to life, soothe the hearts of their loved ones or sdo anything but bring us down to the level of savages bent on revenge.

Allowing the killers to live in this case shows us to be the ones on the higher moral plane.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:41 AM
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28. Sorry, but I still can't buy into the death penalty.
I would instead vote for life in prison without parole, AND spending that time in solitary, with little time outside, no contact with other prisoners, etc.

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:43 AM
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29. No government should have the power to kill. n/t
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