Digby...Frustrated with Dems Statements on Iraq Makes Prediction

[KoKo]

(I think Digby has nailed something, here. The whole article on Bush's idiotic speech today is at the link...but this snip sums up the frustration some of us are feeling these days and our worries about 2008 if we don't get our act together)

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Pol Pot R Us!
Digby

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But then the Democrats may be on the verge of the big el-foldo in Iraq anyway so it may all be academic. The Democrats got punk'd again --- and now they are spinning like little guinea pigs on a treadmill trying to fix it:

Democratic leaders in Congress had planned to use August recess to raise the heat on Republicans to break with President Bush on the Iraq war. Instead, Democrats have been forced to recalibrate their own message in the face of recent positive signs on the security front, increasingly focusing their criticisms on what those military gains have not achieved: reconciliation among Iraq's diverse political factions.

Right. But now that we all agree that there's been prah-gress we are going to have to give the surge more time to make more prah-gress FU's for everyone!

Who could have predicted such a thing would happen?

Frankly, I don't think it will make any substantive difference anyway. Bush will never agree to a withdrawal and I think even if the congress pulled the funding he'd stubbornly keep them there. Therefore, this Iraq debate is political and mostly about 2008. Rather than recognizing that, the Democrats are behaving purely reflexively to patented GOP threats and propaganda instead of building their argument for withdrawal with strength and commitment. In the process they are running a huge danger of demoralizing their base (and the growing number of people who are willing to give them a chance) by capitulating, if not actively embracing, the policies of the most unpopular president in history. They are playing a very dangerous game. Nobody owes them a vote.

But it's a great plan for staying in the minority even when the wind is at your back and you are facing a party in steep decline, if that's what they desire.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/

[Connie_Corleone]

1. I told my friends pretty much the same thing earlier today.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the Democrats ended up losing the Congress in 2008.

[KoKo]

2. I've had a couple of people

ask me "what is going on" because they know I try to keep up with it all. But, I really didn't know what to say. I just said the Republicans are obstructing everything...because I didn't want to be discouraging. One is an independent and the other is a Repug leaning Dem because of frustration over Iraq. What can we say?

[KoKo]

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